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3 loive hands

  • 01-04-2007 11:44pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭


    1/3 NLHE
    [ABC hands, but I would appreciate comments from experienced cash game players, please]

    Game is poor standard, losts of open limping, then people calling raises with ATC.


    Hand 1:
    Mid position tight player [120] raises to 20.
    I [400] am only caller on on the button with 8d 10d.

    Flop 9d Jd 4h. [pot 50]

    He leads for 20.
    Is a push here standard for me in a cash game?


    Hand 2:
    I [400] raise in late position with 910o.
    5 callers.

    Flop 10 9 7 rainbow. [pot 55]

    Checked round to me. How much to bet top 2 pair, on a draw heavy board, in the ATC school of poker?



    Hand 3:
    [I think I played this horribly, pre-flop, & on flop, turn, river – comments please]

    Tight player raises to 12 in mid position.
    I am in BB [550] and call the raise with Q9o from the BB, with 6 others.

    Flop Ad Qd Qs [75]

    I check, hoping for a c-bet from initial raiser, to get the action going, but it’s checked around.

    Turn: 9d

    I lead for 60, and get insta-raised to 120, by a guy next to me, who is drunk, who I know doesn’t have a Q [he would have led the flop, and raised Q10+], may be on a diamond draw, or just putting me on a move. I call.

    River: Ac

    He instantly goes all in for another 250. Easy fold?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Hand 1: Preflop is absolutely terrible. The stacks are not nearly deep enough to justify a call preflop. As played flop is a simple shove.

    Hand 2:

    Bet the pot

    Hand 3:

    Again hate your call preflop. Your out of position with a hand that has serious reverse implied odds and is easily dominated, so fold. I'd have reraised the turn. As played I think the river is a fold as if you call its hoping for a chop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,895 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    1. fold pf. yeah push,

    2. i think limping behind others is better here. bet 40-55

    3. fold pf. shove turn. fold river.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,232 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    con_leche wrote:
    1/3 NLHE
    [ABC hands, but I would appreciate comments from experienced cash game players, please]

    Game is poor standard, losts of open limping, then people calling raises with ATC.


    Hand 1:
    Mid position tight player [120] raises to 20.
    I [400] am only caller on on the button with 8d 10d.Flod here, if you have the player pegged as tight, then you are in bad shape.

    Flop 9d Jd 4h. [pot 50]

    He leads for 20.
    Is a push here standard for me in a cash game?
    Yeah, push is fine, you are ahead to most hands


    Hand 2:
    I [400] raise in late position with 910o.
    5 callers. You are in late position, but got 5 callers, so there was limpers brfore you, the table is quite loose, so a raise of 6 here is always getting called. calling PF is far better than raising with limpers before

    Flop 10 9 7 rainbow. [pot 55]

    Checked round to me. How much to bet top 2 pair, on a draw heavy board, in the ATC school of poker?
    bet the pot to thin the field. becareful on the turn,



    Hand 3:
    [I think I played this horribly, pre-flop, & on flop, turn, river – comments please]

    Tight player raises to 12 in mid position.
    I am in BB [550] and call the raise with Q9o from the BB, with 6 others.
    fold. even if you think you are getting odds with al the players, you are easily dominated
    Flop Ad Qd Qs [75]

    I check, hoping for a c-bet from initial raiser, to get the action going, but it’s checked around.

    Turn: 9d

    I lead for 60, and get insta-raised to 120, by a guy next to me, who is drunk, who I know doesn’t have a Q [he would have led the flop, and raised Q10+], may be on a diamond draw, or just putting me on a move. I call.

    River: Ac

    He instantly goes all in for another 250. Easy fold?
    against most players this is a clear fold. If you are sure he bets a queen, would he not bet an ace here. I fold because I dont trust your read
    .02c


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭robinlacey


    hand 1:
    i know others have said it,but preflop is really really bad.
    as played raise or push the flop

    hand two i'd just bet the pot and try to get it all in

    hand three,again preflop is very bad
    as played push the turn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭robinlacey


    when i play live i play as many hands as i can,i probably play about 70% of my hands,but i would still fold those two preflop,which should give you some idea of how important it is to fold in these kinds of situations.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭Lissavalley


    Is the 4aces in Galway??

    Hand 1 I fold preflop. As played yes i shove flop.

    Hand 2 bet 40 to pot.

    Hand 3 I hate the preflop call. I never play this muck oop.

    Is villain in this hand in the sb?? If he is you should have pushed the turn.
    If he isn't did he push out of turn on river or did you check to him??

    Either way I fold here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭HiCloy


    Hand 1:
    If this is pot limit, how did he manage to raise to 20 preflop?
    If there are some loose bad deep stacked limpers yet to act a call isn't too terrible, but in general it is.

    Push flop.

    Hand 2:
    Limp preflop, pot flop. You will get called by any 8.

    Hand 3:
    Fold preflop. Push turn. No need to get smart here, you'll get value from any flush or even an ace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,405 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    con_leche wrote:
    1/3 NLHE
    [ABC hands, but I would appreciate comments from experienced cash game players, please]

    Game is poor standard, losts of open limping, then people calling raises with ATC.


    Hand 1:
    Mid position tight player [120] raises to 20.
    I [400] am only caller on on the button with 8d 10d.

    Flop 9d Jd 4h. [pot 50]

    He leads for 20.
    Is a push here standard for me in a cash game?
    It depends on whether you think the villain will call with a better flush draw, does he bet his draws normally? if he is on an OP or AJ/J9 your in good shape so depends on what he folds to your push. also if you call and hit your straigh or flush will he pay you off?
    Hand 2:
    I [400] raise in late position with 910o.
    5 callers.

    Flop 10 9 7 rainbow. [pot 55]

    Checked round to me. How much to bet top 2 pair, on a draw heavy board, in the ATC school of poker?
    i bet 50, let them call that with their AT and 8x`s.
    Hand 3:
    [I think I played this horribly, pre-flop, & on flop, turn, river – comments please]

    Tight player raises to 12 in mid position.
    I am in BB [550] and call the raise with Q9o from the BB, with 6 others.

    Flop Ad Qd Qs [75]

    I check, hoping for a c-bet from initial raiser, to get the action going, but it’s checked around.

    Turn: 9d

    I lead for 60, and get insta-raised to 120, by a guy next to me, who is drunk, who I know doesn’t have a Q [he would have led the flop, and raised Q10+], may be on a diamond draw, or just putting me on a move. I call.

    River: Ac

    He instantly goes all in for another 250. Easy fold?
    if you dont put him on AQ/AA then shove the turn, if he`s very bad he should call with a flush draw and most aces (which you want).


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