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Quite Whinge About Irish People...

  • 31-03-2007 3:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭


    Let me just preface by saying this NOT a rant nor intended to encourage anti Irish sentiment, knee-jerk reactions or the usual bullsheet...just plain old honesty.

    I am from Irish extraction and living in Australia. I like to keep up with whatever is going on by listening to internet radio. I would describe myself as pretty open minded and tolerant of all nationalities.

    I like to listen/watch to TV and radio from Ireland to keep up whats going down in the old country. Sometimes when I listen to certain Irish presenters speak I find them really extremely hard to listen to.

    Don't get me wrong I don't buy into the false accusations that Irish people are stupid. I just find that particularly on radio and TV that Irish people are quite hard on the ears. It just seems they waffle on without actually saying anything intelligent.

    Oscar Wilde once said...

    Irish people are wise in their foolishness

    Just a pity you have to be subjected to so much drivel to get to the truth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭Celticfire


    Examples ??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    I'll waffle that again inanely - examples??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭dSTAR


    OK - for example I was listening to 2FM tonight (Australian time). I found it absolutely cringe worthy. Don't get me wrong I was brought up on Dave Fanning.

    What went wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    dSTAR wrote:
    Don't get me wrong I don't buy into the false accusations that Irish people are stupid.

    False accusations by who?
    dSTAR wrote:
    I like to listen/watch to TV and radio from Ireland to keep up whats going down in the old country

    If we are thick, then why bother?
    dSTAR wrote:
    It just seems they waffle on without actually saying anything intelligent.

    Who's more stupid, the person who waffle's on without actually saying anything intelligent, or the person who listens to it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    dSTAR wrote:
    OK - for example I was listening to 2FM tonight (Australian time). I found it absolutely cringe worthy. Don't get me wrong I was brought up on Dave Fanning.

    What went wrong?

    Irish radio is shít. Inc Dave Fanning.
    Try those skanger phone-ins late at night - turn your stomach so it would with it's waffleness and awfulness.
    I could say the same for any crap commercial radio around the world though - it's all so boring and useless.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Marksie


    dSTAR wrote:
    nor intended to encourage anti Irish sentiment, knee-jerk reactions or the usual bullsheet.
    dSTAR wrote:

    intentions and reality are two different things dSTAR.
    dSTAR wrote:
    I found it absolutely cringe worthy
    dSTAR wrote:

    Sorry again, what way cringeworthy. Waffle? its designed to fill in airtime, of course its waffle.
    Politicians: they never answer questions anyways

    Point is that is the same anywhere, USA, UK..
    Jeez look at sky news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,472 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    don't see it myself, but maybe it's because i live here. find irish news and current affairs programs pretty understandable, politicians aside, not too much waffle.

    not a big fan of 2fm

    since most programming i'd watch is irish, english & american, i do find the australian accent a bit strange, its quiet :) different

    maybe there's something wrong with your pc, is it playing the internet streams at the right speed?

    hows the weather in oz this time of year.

    i think i'll go out to the shops to get some milk and a newspaper


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    eolhc wrote:
    don't see it myself, but maybe it's because i live here. find irish news and current affairs programs pretty understandable, politicians aside, not too much waffle.

    not a big fan of 2fm

    since most programming i'd watch is irish, english & american, i do find the australian accent a bit strange, its quiet :) different

    maybe there's something wrong with your pc, is it playing the internet streams at the right speed?

    hows the weather in oz this time of year.

    i think i'll go out to the shops to get some milk and a newspaper


    LOL! Stop da waffle or foreigners will think bad things of us!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Hard Larry


    I don't listen to the Radio much at the weekend but when I was near my PC I'd always tune into Virgin in the UK. Great Tunes.

    I have to agree most, if not all, Irish Radio stations are cringe worthy. That Ray D'Arcy fella talks some bolloxology on Today FM and don't get me started on Tony Fenton.

    I suppose in a way its bad for the tourism industry with all these Wombles hogging the Airwaves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Might have well prefaced the thread with I'm not racist but... Also I find it slightly ironic when people post threads about how dumb X people/person is and then spell words wrong. Don't throw stones in glass houses, I think Oscar Wilde said that. :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    dSTAR wrote:
    Sometimes when I listen to certain Irish presenters speak I find them really extremely hard to listen to.

    Okay this is the crux of your post (after you edit out all the unnecessary parts) right?

    Elaborate on what it is you find so hard to listen to...is it the mid atlantic/dort/dublin poshie accent... or is it the hmming and ahhing of 99% of people interviewed who end up saying things like "at the end of the day" and "people on the ground, the grassroots" and never really manage to say anything at all....or is it something else?

    Personally I find our nation's change in accent to be particularly annoying and can only imagine that, as an ex-pat, you'd hear the change even more.
    On the other hand since we all seem to have adopted the nuances of the australian accent and a fair bit of the yank accent to boot, you should feel right at home tuning into our radio stations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    If you want to have a quite whinge about something get a blog tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    What the fudge is a "quite whinge" anyway? Is it an Australian phrase? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Gaillimhtaibhse


    2FM has it's audience. It's not THE voice of Ireland. Your OP tone would suggest that everyone in Oz is brilliant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭rivers


    reading the responses in this thread is quite an entertaining experience.
    I'm irish and i don't find anything he said offensive, in fact what he said is mostly true. I can't believe anyone is actually trying to defend irish djs. 90% of them are awful and do come out with mostly inane drivel. (and this is accepted as entertainment these days...)
    Of course there's always going to be people to defend an accusation like this because of some pathetic sense of patriotism. In any other case, they'd be the first to make the same point...


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,616 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    dSTAR wrote:
    Let me just preface by saying this NOT a rant nor intended to encourage anti Irish sentiment, knee-jerk reactions or the usual bullsheet...just plain old honesty.

    I am from Irish extraction and living in Australia. I like to keep up with whatever is going on by listening to internet radio. I would describe myself as pretty open minded and tolerant of all nationalities.

    I like to listen/watch to TV and radio from Ireland to keep up whats going down in the old country. Sometimes when I listen to certain Irish presenters speak I find them really extremely hard to listen to.

    Don't get me wrong I don't buy into the false accusations that Irish people are stupid. I just find that particularly on radio and TV that Irish people are quite hard on the ears. It just seems they waffle on without actually saying anything intelligent.

    Oscar Wilde once said...

    Irish people are wise in their foolishness

    Just a pity you have to be subjected to so much drivel to get to the truth.

    the irony of this post is amazing. love it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭latenia


    And Australians are famed worldwide for their rapier wit and sophisticated culture..........



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5338118.stm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    latenia wrote:
    And Australians are famed worldwide for their rapier wit and sophisticated culture..........



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5338118.stm


    I like the story about the aussie who couldn't spell AC/DC when asked on the radio.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


    Woah, woah, woah. Yer man's right on some levels. I've more or less stopped listening to the radio altogether due to its uselessness, apart from Premiership Live on Today FM and Off The Ball on Newstalk every evening. Irish radio has really gone to ****.

    I wouldn't be as quick to say Irish telly's gone to hell though. Our sports coverage is still the best around imo. The pundits aren't restrained like the boys over in the beeb or sky who **** themselves when someone says something not very nice about some manager (ie. Fergie, Big Sam and Harry Redknapp all refusing to do interviews with the beeb.)

    We could do with a couple more Irish dramas, but Pure Mule and Love is the Drug were both pretty good dramas over the past couple of years. Then again, there was the Big Bow Wow...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    wankology tbh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Clarehobo


    dSTAR wrote:
    I like to listen/watch to TV and radio from Ireland to keep up whats going down in the old country. Sometimes when I listen to certain Irish presenters speak I find them really extremely hard to listen to.

    Don't get me wrong I don't buy into the false accusations that Irish people are stupid. I just find that particularly on radio and TV that Irish people are quite hard on the ears. It just seems they waffle on without actually saying anything intelligent.

    Oscar Wilde once said...

    Irish people are wise in their foolishness

    Just a pity you have to be subjected to so much drivel to get to the truth.


    I have just had the best laugh at this post:D

    First of all, I partially agree with the comments about Irish broadcasting; I find that some broadcasters (e.g. Ian Dempsey's drivel in the mornings on today fm) move me to change channel.
    That said, I don't listen to the radio for talk: I listen to it for music. My radio is now permanently tuned to Phantom.

    Now to the real point:
    I lived in Oz for a year - like a lot of Irish people.
    I was there when the Cronulla race riots took place & the media used words like "bashed" continuously.
    I was also there when the hysteria hit the media about Steve Irwin's death and when Terry, his wife, shamelessly used the occasion to market her daughter and their businesses. There's using a situation to highlight a cause & then there's pure tasteless profiteering.

    The Australian media is notorious for rampant sensationalism and catering almost exclusively to the lower echelons of society. Not once did I hear an objective or intelligent news report out there.

    And just as an example of how uneducated their politicians can be...
    Some quotes from a former prime minister of theirs- no fear you'll hear any of this being said in Dáil Éireann:

    http://www.ausculture.com/2004/08/30/paul_j_keatings/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Schlemm


    Picture the scene...you're on your way to work...
    (possibly stuck somewhere on the M50...)
    And suddenly...
    you hear...
    this
    :mad: !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    rivers wrote:
    reading the responses in this thread is quite an entertaining experience.
    I'm irish and i don't find anything he said offensive, in fact what he said is mostly true. I can't believe anyone is actually trying to defend irish djs. 90% of them are awful and do come out with mostly inane drivel. (and this is accepted as entertainment these days...)
    Of course there's always going to be people to defend an accusation like this because of some pathetic sense of patriotism. In any other case, they'd be the first to make the same point...

    The title of the thread is...

    Quite whinge about Irish people...

    and not

    Quite whinge about Irish radio and T.V....

    Perhaps dSTAR could make it clear if he/she is judging our Radio and T.V. personalities or if he/she is judging the people of Ireland based on our t.v and radio personalities.

    I, for one, got the feeling it was the latter.

    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Schlemm


    Or worse still...
    This

    If Irish radio defines us as a nation, I'm handing in my passport.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Schlemm wrote:
    Or worse still...
    This

    If Irish radio defines us as a nation, I'm handing in my passport.

    It doesn't, and I think that's probably the problem most people are having with this thread.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: But please try and be a bit more sensationalist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Beelzebub


    nipplenuts wrote:
    What the fudge is a "quite whinge" anyway? Is it an Australian phrase? :confused:

    Quiet whinge even....no such animal...either...:p

    Now Quit Whinging About Irish People!!!:D :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Clarehobo


    Thank you Beelzebub!

    dStar: if Irish people are as 'dumb' as you think, who do you post on an Irish board & not your own Aussie board? Are you just looking for a reaction???

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055041275&referrerid=&highlight=


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    I lived in Australia myself for a while. I actually find the radio a bit better over here. I prefer the Newstalk kind of stuff although I do find them getting a bit sensationalist in the mornings these days.

    Off topic but anyway. I'm really, really glad we don't seem to have anything in the same caliber as Australians 7 & 10s, Today Tonight & A Current Affair programs. I know it's not radio but they were major whinging programs and always from the thickos point of view.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,472 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Schlemm


    If Irish radio defines us as a nation, I'm handing in my passport.
    It doesn't, and I think that's probably the problem most people are having with this thread.

    Er, that's de joke


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Especially if you are listening to the drivel pumped out by most of the stations here.

    Listen to serious radio for chrissakes and don't form an opinion based on the Boom boomboom crap from the music stations.

    Cop yourself on cobber.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    dSTAR wrote:
    It just seems they waffle on without actually saying anything intelligent.
    Yeah, that's the old "make noise with my mouth until the listeners forget what tricky question I was asked" routine.
    I'd say I've heard enough of it to make a pretty decent stand-in for many of our politicians.


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