Channel 6 Cancel Irish Produced Programmes

tusatv

Gonna get crapper people! Access Hollywood, Take 6 And Pop 20 have all been cancelled ive heard! What the hell are they doing in there? Its turning crapper now!

lady_j

tusatv wrote:

Gonna get crapper people! Access Hollywood, Take 6 And Pop 20 have all been cancelled ive heard! What the hell are they doing in there? Its turning crapper now!

Access Hollywood was possibly the worst programme that ever existed on tv, its shocking they used any of their budget on it!! :eek:

Mossy Monk

it is turning into another one of those clones on the EPG. it is a waste of airspace

Dont be at yourself

They're not much worse than RTE - where 'irish produced programmes' tend more often than not to be absolutely awful shows from the archives, shown inexplicably during weeknight evenings. I tuned in one evening to be confronted with the image of a bearded mucksavage in his Y-fronts standing on a boat warbling on about some nonsense. Later that night, I witnessed a whole 5 minutes dedicated to praying for a herd of cows. If it wasn't so ridiculous, I'd be outraged.

Channel6 makes no claims to be anything other than a channel to tune into to vegetate to Jack Bauer and Tony Soprano. That's what a lot of people want to see. At least they're not using the license fee.

prospect

NekkidBibleMan wrote:

They're not much worse than RTE - where 'irish produced programmes' tend more often than not to be absolutely awful shows from the archives, shown inexplicably during weeknight evenings. I tuned in one evening to be confronted with the image of a bearded mucksavage in his Y-fronts standing on a boat warbling on about some nonsense. Later that night, I witnessed a whole 5 minutes dedicated to praying for a herd of cows. If it wasn't so ridiculous, I'd be outraged.

Channel6 makes no claims to be anything other than a channel to tune into to vegetate to Jack Bauer and Tony Soprano. That's what a lot of people want to see. At least they're not using the license fee.

Matter of opinion.

I like the unique programs made by RTE. I don't watch all of them, but alot of them are very good.

If I want to watch 24, Sopranos or LOST etc. I'll switch to SKY, or E4 or Channel 4 or Channel 6....... At least RTE is that bit different.

Reptileboy

RTE is kinda paid to be different. And while I appreciate the programmes they make, I do think that they waste far too much money and act as a negative weight on other channels who have to compete with it for advertisers.

Some shows that Channel 6 have taken from RTE are given far better timeslots and can be see more widely by viewers. RTE has a terrible habit of purchasing US shows that they dump in the early afternoons and late at night. At least with Channel 6 they give it a primetime slot.

Mossy Monk

NekkidBibleMan wrote:

where 'irish produced programmes' tend more often than not to be absolutely awful shows from the archives

when was the last time you watched RTÉ. have a look at the current schedule before posting that inane crap

Dont be at yourself

when was the last time you watched RTÉ. have a look at the current schedule before posting that inane crap

Sadly, I'm not lying. Not more than 3 weeks ago, I came upon an hour-long programme (it was a Wednesday night, around 8pm) which was without a doubt from the archives. It was a sort of guided tour of a rural area - and the tour guide was an old man with a beard. Highlights included the sight of him stipping down to his light blue Y-fronts and stand, wobbly-legged, on a wooden boat in a river as he talked at the camera, a fantastic tour of the local schoolhouse, and a riveting scene where he laid in a field with another bearded cohort looking at weeds.

A few nights ago, I watched the evening prayer - where RTE invited the nation to join hands and pray for the wellbeing of a herd of cattle.

A few weeks before that, I watched 'As The Crow Flies'. Or, more aptly titled, As The Helicopter Flies Over A Town 30 Years Ago To The Most Dreary And Uninteresting Narration In The History Of Television.

Milktrolley

If it's true, would it not be in breach of BCI rules and guidelines? I understood that Irish broadcasters had to have a certain amount of Irish programming on it. Running Quiz6 for hours on end was a profitable way around this.

However, if they axed the lot of them and produced one good half-hour programme then it'd be a step in the right direction. Surely there must be some small but good production company out there that's looking for exposure?

The Sparrow

Mossy Monk wrote:

when was the last time you watched RTÉ. have a look at the current schedule before posting that inane crap

your wrong there mate, i was watching RTE 2 a couple of weeks ago on a Wednesday night at 7:30 when on comes some ridiculous nonsense about crocheting that was quite clearly made circa 1982! it was a non champions league night so obviously they had nothing to show and just resurrected it and stuck it in. And I was in a mates house who only had RTE 2 so we were stuck watching most of it until we turned it off due to complete boredom from watching old women rabbit on about different stitches!

so you maybe you should have a look at the schedules before posting your own inane crap?!:rolleyes:

hot fuss

NekkidBibleMan wrote:

They're not much worse than RTE - where 'irish produced programmes' tend more often than not to be absolutely awful shows from the archives, shown inexplicably during weeknight evenings.

sorry, but that is inane and nothing close to an argument. Home produced programmes 'tend to be' ONE archive show that you saw a few weeks ago.. Check out any current schedule and I think you might just see hours and hours of new home produced shows..

Fair enough, there are some 'archive' programmes that won't be everyone's cup of tea, but reducing RTÉ's home produced output to an archive show and the evening prayer as examples is completely inane and not a valid argument at all.

Fair City, Late Late Show, Tubridy Tonight, No Frontiers, Off the Rails, Showhouse, The View, afternoons of home produced young people's programming, Hidden History, Arts Lives, Killinaskully, The Cafe, The Podge and Rodge Show, The Clinic to name but a few..

Mossy Monk

woooo232 wrote:

so you maybe you should have a look at the schedules before posting your own inane crap?!:rolleyes:

hold up a second. people are talking about the homegrown programmes on RTÉ. have you not seen things like Prime Time, Fair City etc. etc. last i checked they weren't made in the 80's. so get your facts straight before jumping in head first :rolleyes:

they show the odd programme from the archives, big ****ing deal

you were stuck watching that programme? believe it or not there is more to life than watching the television, but if your life is that boring then RTÉ Two cant be held responsible

Dont be at yourself

hot fuss wrote:

sorry, but that is inane and nothing close to an argument. Home produced programmes 'tend to be' ONE archive show that you saw a few weeks ago.. Check out any current schedule and I think you might just see hours and hours of new home produced shows..

I listed a few examples of archived shows appearing at peak times, and they're by no means the only ones. Another poster mentioned a programme about crocheting, which sounds suspiciously like Patterns - another programme older than the earth itself, where we venture, at snails pace, behind the scenes of the making of such fascinating items as handbags and jumpers.

Fair City, Late Late Show, Tubridy Tonight, No Frontiers, Off the Rails, Showhouse, The View, afternoons of home produced young people's programming, Hidden History, Arts Lives, Killinaskully, The Cafe, The Podge and Rodge Show, The Clinic to name but a few..

I wonder, if RTE diverted some of Pat 'Alan Partridge' Kenny or Ryan Turbridy's salary into producing a wider variety of programming, they might not need rely on archived rubbish or US imports to fill the schedule.

Dont be at yourself

you were stuck watching that programme? believe it or not there is more to life than watching the television, but if your life is that boring then RTÉ Two cant be held responsible

Some people don't have the time or money for alternatives - be it cable TV or hobbies - and the television is their main source of entertainment. RTE, as state broadcaster and recipient of the license fee, has an obligation to provide quality programming.

hot fuss

NekkidBibleMan wrote:

I wonder, if RTE diverted some of Pat 'Alan Partridge' Kenny or Ryan Turbridy's salary into producing a wider variety of programming, they might not need rely on archived rubbish or US imports to fill the schedule.

Oh for God's sake, yet another ridiculous comment.. they don't rely on US imports to fill their schedule. I had a quick flick through a TV guide at the programming on next week and of prime time programming on RTÉ One, there is ONE archive programme (Reeling in the Years on Friday), and 6 US imports, half of which are movies! Please try and know what you're talking about before posting sweeping statements that you can't back up.

Dont be at yourself

They rely on US imports to fill their big gaping holes of programming aimed at the 18-25 year old man, while they pump out countless hours of home produced twaddle aimed at the older audience, and reality TV rubbish aimed at the braindead. Take away US imports like Lost, CSI and Ugly Betty and there's not an awful lot left!

Mossy Monk

you contradict yourself. the US imports should be taken away? people enjoy it. you say people dont enjoy the archived programming? how do you know? RTÉ isnt there to entertain NekkidBibleMan. RTÉ isnt there to provide quality programming. it is there for everyone. not just you

AdMMM

NekkidBibleMan wrote:

They rely on US imports to fill their big gaping holes of programming aimed at the 18-25 year old man, while they pump out countless hours of home produced twaddle aimed at the older audience, and reality TV rubbish aimed at the braindead. Take away US imports like Lost, CSI and Ugly Betty and there's not an awful lot left!

I honestly don't think that RTE have the resources to produce it's own sitcom/drama directed at the 18-25 year old market. In fact I think it would be a waste of the taxpayers money if it did try it. I don't think Ireland would ever be able to produce a profitable show on a par with the likes of Lost etc. Even Fair City is losing RTE money!

flogen

Milktrolley wrote:

If it's true, would it not be in breach of BCI rules and guidelines? I understood that Irish broadcasters had to have a certain amount of Irish programming on it. Running Quiz6 for hours on end was a profitable way around this.

However, if they axed the lot of them and produced one good half-hour programme then it'd be a step in the right direction. Surely there must be some small but good production company out there that's looking for exposure?

That's what I would have thought too, but I can't find exact details of the requirements the BCI put on them.

It's worth keeping in mind, however, that they may be able to wriggle out of regulations in certain ways... would, for example, a music video show, with its own name and titles etc., which featured a presenter giving an introduction every 2-3 videos constitute as a home-grown production? I'm sure they've at least looked into this anyway.

tusatv

flogen wrote:

... would, for example, a music video show, with its own name and titles etc., which featured a presenter giving an introduction every 2-3 videos constitute as a home-grown production?

Yes sadly!

Dont be at yourself

I honestly don't think that RTE have the resources to produce it's own sitcom/drama directed at the 18-25 year old market. In fact I think it would be a waste of the taxpayers money if it did try it. I don't think Ireland would ever be able to produce a profitable show on a par with the likes of Lost etc. Even Fair City is losing RTE money!

Obviously they couldnt turn out a show with the production values of Lost. But if they put the money that they've put into shows like The Big Bow Wow etc (or pat the plank's salary) they could make a decent show - it's all down to creativity and picking the right ideas, which is where RTE has always struggled.