Help me spend money!

bennyx_o

Right, I've about €1,200 to spend on a new build. I'll need all components (OS, monitor, kb, mouse etc) I've this list in komplett, just wondering what peoples opinion is on it? Anything to add or change? I'm particularly clueless at selecting RAM so help on that wpould be appreciated.

Cheers.

Hal1

Are you going to O/C the rig and what type of cooling solution are you going to use. Why that case *shudder* but thats your choice and does it have a PSU the fookin price of it:eek:. Why 2 matched 512 sticks, 1 stick of 1GB would be better and leave room for future upgrades. Good look with the build but I would review some of the choices made.

P.s. you have gone over your *budget* price.

bennyx_o

I just like the look of the shuttles, and space is somewhat of an issue. I don't plan on overclocking. Not big into gaming but do play some newish titles. Like I said, I'm hopeless at choosing RAM, and most other components, which is why I posted on here.

dazftw

Right.. This may be good or bad I duno it seems ok to me for what you want? What exactly do you want? Play videos? Internet ETC some gaming?

Heres what ive come up with..

Case
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=326919&s=sc

(You might not like it)

PSU
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=314763&s=sc

(might be overkill)

Motherboard
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=322044&s=sc

(only mobo for that processor that looked anygood)

Ram
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=312372&s=sc

(2 gigs if you want vista)

Graphics card
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=318805&s=sc

(Im pretty sure its better)

DVD Drive/burner
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=325546&s=sc

Hard drive
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=331024&s=sc

(same)

OS
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=330707&s=sc

(you dont need ultimate tbh and especially not 64bit)

Keyboard
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=310670&s=sc

(I have this its great!)

Mouse
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=325961&s=sc

(Plain mouse)

Wireless you will have to charge it and stuf.. just not worth it I dont think

Monitor
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=327183&s=sc

(Same size cheaper your not going notice difference)

This goes 82 over your budget and its got all componets your other list didnt!

Fanny Cradock

Three things:

*A 200W PSU is not sufficient for your needs

*Buy more RAM for Vista - 2 gigs total

*Wireless keyboard/ mouse is a pain in the arse - ditch it.

papu

heres ma 2 cents

http://www.komplett.ie/k/shoplist.asp?mode=receive&si=447939&su=BDF3430D-921B-46DE-A7F8-82131D55716C


imo wait till the 8600 ect comeout better bang for buck

Fanny Cradock

You didn't list a PSU or a harddrive

€100 on a gaming keyboard and mouse :eek:

papu

sry taught the case came with one

thats a sweet moniter tho
suppose its more of a gaming pc tho add 250 euros with hdds and psu

bennyx_o

It'll be used to internet, dvds, some games. Intel or AMD? Is there much difference?

papu, it's not letting me view the list on komplett.

bennyx_o

Right, what about this config? It's a little higher than what I wanted to spend, but I think it'd be worth it.

dazftw

yea that looks pretty good!

Intel are better than amd now with there core 2 duo cpu

bennyx_o

Thats what I wanted to hear. I'll hopefully be ordering in the next week or so. Is the stock intel cooler ok for everyday use? Is it noisy?

d_advocatus

The C2D E6300 is cheaper and you'll easily be able to overclock it to the same speed as the E6400 with stock cooler. The only reason to to for the E6400 is if you're going to be overclocking to the maximum possible because you'll have a multiplier of 8 instead of 7.

bennyx_o

I don't particularly want to overclock as I said above. mainly because I havn't a clue how to. I'll take it into consideration though as it's quite a bit cheaper.

d_advocatus

Just set your FSB speed in the BIOS to 304 and that's it. The same speed as the E6400. Your RAM is capable of running at 333MHz without being overclocked so you won't be overclocking it. In fact, if you run at 1:1 then your RAM will be underclocked!

bennyx_o

Heh, cheers. Saves me a few bob.

d_advocatus

No bother. My E6300 beats the 2.93GHz Core 2 Extreme in some benchmarks!

€180 CPU vs €950 CPU:D

bennyx_o

I don't think I'll be taking it that far.

Fanny Cradock

I'd suggest that the 7600GT would be a weakness of that system. It's a great card - I'm very pleased with mine - but you should really think about spending a little extra on something that is more in line with your system. An x1950pro or 7900gs would do nicely, better still the 8800 series, but that is pushing your budget way up. Alternatively, you could buy a card for about €80 to tide you over until the next release of cheaper DX10 cards - not sure of the financial sense of this, though.

d_advocatus

I bought the X1950PRO to do me until the R600 comes out. I had to get something PCI-E when I bought my new board, couldn't keep using my AGP 9800PRO.

The X1950PRO is a great card for the price, better than the 7900GS.

papu

hey yeah the system looks good only a few susgestions..

1- cheaper mobo this one is really good http://komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=323531

2- buy an e4300 http://komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=330167

and a nice cooler
http://komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=320978

and overclock it to abt 2.8 or 3. you say you dont know how but it really is easy with this mobo and processor, itl keep you within budget and youll seriously have no trouble overclockin it theres tutorials on boards and all over the web

imo if ya can front it go for this moniter http://komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=324783

its lovely

bennyx_o

Fanny Cradock wrote:

I'd suggest that the 7600GT would be a weakness of that system. It's a great card - I'm very pleased with mine - but you should really think about spending a little extra on something that is more in line with your system. An x1950pro or 7900gs would do nicely, better still the 8800 series, but that is pushing your budget way up. Alternatively, you could buy a card for about €80 to tide you over until the next release of cheaper DX10 cards - not sure of the financial sense of this, though.

Might get a slightly better card, but I don't want to spend a whole lot because I'm not the biggest gamer.

papu wrote:

hey yeah the system looks good only a few susgestions..

1- cheaper mobo this one is really good http://komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=323531

Seems to have alot of features, but the two reviews on it state problems.

papu wrote:

2- buy an e4300 http://komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=330167

I see where your'e coming from, but I think I'll stick to the E6300.

papu wrote:

imo if ya can front it go for this moniter http://komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=324783

I was looking to get it, if I cansave some money somewhere, I'll consider it.

papu

okay but seriously the mobo is quality and those problems are strange

good reviews here :http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2799

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/abit_ab9pro/

The Core 2 Duo's overclock AMAZINGLY well on a good motherboard, and the Abit AB9 Pro is definitely a good motherboard.

2 friends got one , and im getting one

bennyx_o

They seemed strage when reading it. I'll have a read of the reviews when I get home.

Frederico

Ok now this is something different but maybe you could get this..



Dimension E521 (System Identifier. ZRC8C69F)
Dimension E521 AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processor 5000 (2.60Ghz, 512K)
Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition

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System Price EUR 441.00
Dell recommends Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional


Operating System: Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition
Memory: Memory Dual Channel 2GB (4x512MB) 533Mhz DDR2
Hard Disk Drive: 250GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive
Video: Video card Nvidia Geforce 7300 Turbocache 256MB DVI/VGA output with 1xS-Video Output
Modem: V.92 Modem Data/Fax/Voice PCI UK
DVD Drive: DVD+/-RW (ReadWrite) 16X
Software: Image Restore Utility
MISC: Dell Quietkey Black Keyboard
Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo XI - 60 day trial
Corel Snapfire Starter Edition
English McAfee Security Centre 90 Day Trial Version (No Recovery CD
Mouse Dell Wheel USB 2 Button Scroll Black

Decent processor, 2 gigs of ram, nice case, comes in at 533 inc VAT and delivery (from the dell outlet store, Ive bought plenty of these and every single one has worked perfectly, no scratches either)

Then you have almost 700 euros to buy..

A great monitor and an amazing graphics card, plus whatever else you want..

papu

its another option for sure

bennyx_o

It's something I've considered and still am, but nothing beats building your own PC and turning it on for the first time.

d_advocatus

See the other thread in this forum where somebody bought a Dell and the gfx card he bought doesn't fit! Dell's are useless for upgrading.

bennyx_o

Yea, I read that. I've pretty much decided on the spec I'll be getting, I'm just looking for a case to get. Thinking of the Lian-Li PC-V300, but I read some graphics cards are too long to fit. Any recomendations on where to get cases? Not really looking to spend a whole lot (say €50-€80)

papu

pc world , i got the jeantech nitro its 89 euro or soo , its deagly
http://www.caseclosed.co.uk/review_jeantech_nitro.htm