H Dip Offers

Pythia

Is anyone else waiting on an offer for the H Dip?

It says they'll contact us asap after April 1st. Does that mean April 2nd, or could it be a while after that?

I've applied in UCD and to teach maths and economics up to LC.

spurious

I know at least one person who has got his acceptance email from DCU.

pwee

Its the 2nd of april, you can go online at 6.15-30am to see whether you have a place or not.

J.S. Pill

whats the deadline for acceptance then???

Orange

Does anybody know when TCD let applicants know?

Pythia

Hurray, I got UCD!

Trotter

Pythia wrote:

Hurray, I got UCD!

Well done! Welcome to the wonderful world of teaching. Remember to get a broad range of schools for teaching practice.. get some disadvantaged teaching under your belt. It's really useful and helps develop your skills that you'll need in the classroom.

J.S. Pill

UCC is in the bag baby!

Now to get a haircut...

ateam

Does anyone know how many points were needed for UCD or Maynooth this year?

Pythia

ateam wrote:

Does anyone know how many points were needed for UCD or Maynooth this year?

http://www.pac.ie/hdip.php?page=points

MissLe

i also got ucd! delighted!

peewee18988

Happy days, got UCD for next year!!!
When are the trinity offers out!!!!!!!!!??????????

whisper_77

I got UCC.

MissLe

trinity offers are usually out around the same time

Vainglory

So it was 40* points for UCD this year, yeah?

MissLe

ya ucd 40, galway 41, maynooth 42. think ucc was 40 also.

Vainglory

Hi does anyone know what date the induction course starts next year in UCD?

If someone was to have a wedding abroad in the last week of August at which they were a groomsman, would you be able to miss it or would they go ape ****?

Davitt Man

I got the H\Dip course in UCD also. When does it start? Has anyone else holding an IT degree applied for this course, just wondering what other subjects can I teach as well as computers?

whisper_77

Davitt Man wrote: »

I got the H\Dip course in UCD also. When does it start? Has anyone else holding an IT degree applied for this course, just wondering what other subjects can I teach as well as computers?

I hold an IT degree and I received an offer for a dip place in UCC.
Well if you consult the 'Yellow Pages' of the PDEAC Handbook you will see that you will be able to teach Computer Studies but that really isn't enough to offer a school really.
I am considering finding out if I am eligible to teach Economics , Business & Maths also as there was a lot of content from those areas in my degree.

I believe it can be a time consuming process and you have to provide them [The teaching council] with detailed info on your degree, subjects taken each year, hours for each subject, college handbook detailing those subjects, practical & tutorial hours, degree parchment photocopy, official copy of your results etc.

I am confused by the whole system because a lot of people seem to just mention subjects they have done in their degree and say that they are eligible to teach those...surely they will be caught out no???

Davitt Man

i habe reading around on this board and it appears you can teach other subjects that you touched on in your college degree but no one seems to know for sure. Hopefully we can teach a subject like history or geography as well as computers. I suppose the only way to find out for sure is to ring the post grad office.

My only worry is to complete this H\Dip and be only able to teach computers, thats not enough to get a full time job.

Rosita

I can't speak with any aithority on IT degrees and their constituent parts nor can I speak for the teaching council. But in the case of say, a BA degree, it is obvious what has been done as there are discrete subjects as opposed to modules (despite some of the changing terminology) here and there. For example, someone might study English and Maths as degree subjects and have done Geography and French in their first year which might entitle them to do some teaching in those first year subjects. It is very clear then that those subjects made up 25% of one year of the degree and it is easily measured and considered.

Presumably it is a tricker job for a degree such as IT with an over-arching subject being constituted of various modules. But it in no doubt possible to assess these things. Without having the foggiest notion of what, specifically, an IT degree entails I imagine that any subject (maths possibly?) taken for all three years of the degree or however long the degree course was, would be a strong candidate for a teaching subject.

ateam

MissLe wrote: »

trinity offers are usually out around the same time

Yep got mine yesterday and I got it!

MissLe

just wondering does anyone have any idea how many places there are on the dip in ucd?

scut

There's approx. 200 places in ucd, I got it too, delighted!! It says on the offer form that we have to send our experience form, where exactly are we sending it? (I already sent a reference form with my hours along with the application form)

MissLe

Yeah I sent my experience with my applicatin also but got the principal to sign off my hours and got the school stamp on my sheet and sent it aay again with my acceptance...

Vainglory

When do the offers have to be sent back by?

scut

It has to be sent back by the 30th of this month for UCD

edeldonlon

I got offered maynooth. does anybody know when it usually starts??

sammylouth

Hi I got offer a place in UCD as well.
Can anyone recommend a school in the list UCD gave for teaching in.

gaeilgegrinds

Be warned...places here in the west are moving very quickly for Dip next year. I'd get calling schools or calling into them if I were ye. Best of luck to ye all!

peanuthead

With regard to what subjects you can teach if you have your Dip and your main subject is IT, well that depends on two things:
1- what other subjects you pick up in your Dip year
2- what school you end up in.

For example, whatever subjects you take up in your dip year, you are eligible to teach these subjects, just not to exam classes.

Also, depending on what kind of school you are in will determine your subjects/hours. For example, you can teach computers, there is also a subject known as LINKS, which is a computer/business based LCVP subject.

Also, some schools may be short on teachers for whatever reason, this can lead to you getting hours teaching subjects you are not necessarily qualified to do.

Take me for example: I did an arts degree in the hope of going into teaching.. I had doubts after completing my degree about whether or not it was what I wanted to do, so I got a part time job in a school with no dip.
It has just come to the end of my second year with that school, and I dont yet have my dip. but I have had 22 hours a week for the last two years. And these are the subjects I have taught:

English
Irish
Maths
T.E.S.O.L
Work Experience
Social Education

Now I work in a disadvantaged area. Along with all of that work available to you in a disadvantaged area is the opportunity for extra one-to-one work with some kids, and support teaching also

So if you are worried about making up hours on your timetable, dont be!!

Best of luck to all of you starting Dip in 08

ferdi

Anyone else waiting for offers? >_<

Rosita

Just rang them now and they say it will be after 12 o'clock when the offers are up. You'd have thought that they'd have made the effort to have them up first thing if only to avoid an avalanche of calls.

Rosita

Offers are up now.

Nead21

edeldonlon wrote: »

I got offered maynooth. does anybody know when it usually starts??

Dip in Maynooth usually starts in late September with an induction week, followed by an observation week in school, and then you start probably with TP and lectures.

a.auhl

i got offered TCD on mon 30th/03..and the NUI offers are out today because i also got maynooth today...however im going to go with TCD..

Lord TSC

Got Maynooth. Shocked tbh. Wasn't expecting it cause I was only hitting a 60% average in my BA. I guess they counted my B.Phil as a full second postgrad degree or something though, despite the fact It took me a month :P

Well, I guess I'll be seeing some of you there then <_<

Chilli Con Kearney

Hi all

Has anybody sent their work experience yet? If so, how detailed have you been? Weekly, monthly or just one total of hours worked up to December 2008?

Also, has anybody an idea on cost of the UCD dip? 6 - 7k?

sine86

Hey! congrats to all who got hdip/pgde! i got my offer, 1st choice in cork- delighted! but startin to worry about getting a school to do the placement in! has anyone sorted out a school yet?! Maybe I'm premature in my worrying but iv sent out cvs&cover letters & emails to a few schools & heard nothing back yet- has anyone got any tips or advice?!

Although I think the schools are on their easter break at the moment....i wonder are the principals in the schools at the moment?!

spurious

sine86 wrote: »

Although I think the schools are on their easter break at the moment....i wonder are the principals in the schools at the moment?!

Some will be.
I know ours and many of our teachers will be in next week.

Lord TSC

Hehe, my Dad had a principal in his taxi last night who said if I wanted a place in his school, he'd be glad to take me. He said that apparently schools will want loads of H.Dip students this year since they are free teachers in a time when their budgets are being cut back....

anoisaris

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Hehe, my Dad had a principal in his taxi last night who said if I wanted a place in his school, he'd be glad to take me. He said that apparently schools will want loads of H.Dip students this year since they are free teachers in a time when their budgets are being cut back....

Not really because you are only taking the same assigned classes each day you are teaching. If you were subbing any other classes outside this you must be paid for that-granted it would be cheaper at the unqualified rate I suppose. Also the teacher you are covering classes for while doing dip should not be asked to take on subbing in the school with other classes while you teach their class.

01mirelly

My degree is in Geography and Art History with Archaeology in first year. I also have a Masters in Geography.

Prior to my degree I completed first year science ( subjects included biology, maths, geology and physics)

I have been offered the HDip in Maynooth for this september. At present I am looking for a teaching practice school. I am worried in that i wont be able to teach a second subject.

I can do CSPE but the teaching council said you have to have done sociology as part of your degree.

I am unsure. Can I teach Art/Art History or Science to Junior Cert Level?
I am waiting word back from Maynooth in regards to this but if you would have any comments I would be greatful

anoisaris

01mirelly wrote: »

My degree is in Geography and Art History with Archaeology in first year. I also have a Masters in Geography.

Prior to my degree I completed first year science ( subjects included biology, maths, geology and physics)

I have been offered the HDip in Maynooth for this september. At present I am looking for a teaching practice school. I am worried in that i wont be able to teach a second subject.

I can do CSPE but the teaching council said you have to have done sociology as part of your degree.

I am unsure. Can I teach Art/Art History or Science to Junior Cert Level?
I am waiting word back from Maynooth in regards to this but if you would have any comments I would be greatful

Sounds like your only recognised teaching subject will be geography to be honest. Every teaching subject must make up a third of your degree. Art history is not offered as a discrete subject therefore a qualified art teacher would be required. You must be qualified to teach your subject to leaving cert level to be recognised as a teacher of that subject by the teaching council.

Nead21

you could teach history also for your teaching practice, you wont have it recognised from the teaching council but you can do the module for TP.

you need to have sociology to teach cspe but you will often get a class of it for TP as most established teachers dont want to teach it because it isnt in their subject area.

if you're unsure of your next step, why not make an appointment with a lecturer/tutor in maynooth to talk it over. they are very nice and helpful in there.

best of luck

01mirelly

thanks nead21

Ya i have been in contact with nuim they have to get back to me but hopefully all will be clearer by tomorrow

clartharlear

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Hehe, my Dad had a principal in his taxi last night who said if I wanted a place in his school, he'd be glad to take me. He said that apparently schools will want loads of H.Dip students this year since they are free teachers in a time when their budgets are being cut back....

I posted this opinion the other day and my post got deleted with no notice! :eek:

anoisaris wrote: »

Not really because you are only taking the same assigned classes each day you are teaching. If you were subbing any other classes outside this you must be paid for that-granted it would be cheaper at the unqualified rate I suppose. Also the teacher you are covering classes for while doing dip should not be asked to take on subbing in the school with other classes while you teach their class.

That teacher wouldn't be covering other classes, but would be catching up on the paperwork and correcting etc and while they wouldn't be actually taking on other classes, they would be available for unexpected duties.

Lord TSC

Well, I've got my place in the Loretto in Balbriggan. Was talking to the Vice and he told me the same thing again; that due to cutbacks, they are taking on as many H.Dip students as they can. So far, there's 4 of us going in to them next September and he said he expects more to apply as well.

Having a slight problem though. Basically, my BA was English and Philosophy, which means my qualification is only in English. The Maynooth system wants me to teach 6 classes in subjects I'm qualified in, meaning I'm asking to take 6 English classes over those two days. The schools I've been in to have warned me that they don't even have their timetables for next year done up yet, and that they have no way of knowing how many classes of English 1st years will have on those days (No one wanted to give me higher than 1st years; is that common?). I've been offered a place but with no promise I'll hit the 6 classes of English?

Advice?

Also, out of interest, how many classes do the others like UCD and Trinity expect people to take, and over how many days?