Had a great idea!

judomick

After all the bull**** recently, i was thinking! usually not a good thing but anyways....

I think the majority of threads that do go a bit haywire have been when people ask questions such as "i want to start martial arts which one should i do" and " killer death touches are my thing, wheres the irish grandmaster living" so why dont people from every art submit a good synopsis on what there art is, benefits, class, maybe a vid displaying a little action!

The best are then selected, and put in a sticky thread, so anytime anyone is looking for information they can be directed there, instead of "ninjitsu makes you invisible" ..."no it doesnt your just a weirdo in pyjamas" type of threads.

also maybe a link to clubs in ireland, or a little note saying to pm the author of the thread for info on local clubs.

mickoo

Most of the problems are not when people ask whats a good art. its when they ask where they can do judo and get told to go to bjj instead for example-this is **** stirring in my opinion..and the cause of most unrest.:cool:

judomick

mickoo wrote:

Most of the problems are not when people ask whats a good art. its when they ask where they can do judo and get told to go to bjj

Thats the whole point pf the last part of my post, bjj and judo are pretty much the same sport though so.....;)

Scramble

In principle I think it's a good idea, Mick, but wouldn't there still be debates about the accuracy of the different summaries?

"How can you say _________ is really good for kicking? It's almost all semi-contact and it's crap compared to Muay Thai." And so on.

Nothingcompares

mickoo wrote:

Most of the problems are not when people ask whats a good art. its when they ask where they can do judo and get told to go to bjj instead for example-this is **** stirring in my opinion..and the cause of most unrest.:cool:

This has never happened to my recollection.

judomick

good point, but rather than this be entirely my doing, i think other should comment on how this should come about, rather than me dictate the rules etc, so any input from anyone?

Nothingcompares

Boards has wiki. A wiki could be entered for each martial art someone wants to write an entry for. A list of current boards users could be incorporated into the wiki entries showing who does which martial art.

The entries for different martial arts can be edited by anyone. FOr example, If I write a entry for Judo saying it's the best martial art in the world, someone could edit that to say "one of the best martial arts in the world".

cowzerp

Nothingcompares wrote:

This has never happened to my recollection.

That has happened loads of times. i remember a while ago some lad came on asking for info on boxing clubs and all the muay thai lads started telling him where to find muay thai. if i asked for ice cream i would not want to be offered crisps. i moaned about this before, if a lad asks for advise on martial arts then its open house and opinions are welcome, like on this thread-but if they ask for specific arts then thats what they should be advised on.

Khannie

I suggested something similar last week in this thread (which subsequently went to poo). I think it's a good idea alright. If nothing else, it might help people get a list of what's available in their area.

Edit: wiki page is also a good idea.

Khannie

cowzerp wrote:

i remember a while ago some lad came on asking for info on boxing clubs and all the muay thai lads started telling him where to find muay thai.

This is not what happened. As you said, you moaned about it, and I corrected you in the thread and will do so again..... The lad was told that he was too old for competitive boxing. At that point (and ONLY at that point) I suggested MT to him as an alternative. I also suggested the blue collar boxing thing to him.

Edit: I don't disagree with your general point (jaysus, that ninjitsu thread is a classic example) but you keep bringing up that point and I don't think it's a fair one. Also....it was in the boxing forum.

cowzerp

Too old for boxing but not muay thai-i dont think thats accurate-in thailand if you have not made it by about 18 your on the scrapheap-hijacking threads is not right whether your a mod or not.

Khannie

cowzerp wrote:

Too old for boxing but not muay thai-i dont think thats accurate

I think you'll find that it is accurate for Ireland. There is a vibrant boxing scene here, and if you want to start in your 30's, you're just too damned old tbh.

cowzerp wrote:

-in thailand if you have not made it by about 18 your on the scrapheap

This is not Thailand. Muay Thai here is a fledgling sport by comparisson to boxing. As such, you can still compete well into your 30's (or so I'm told by my MT instructor).

cowzerp wrote:

hijacking threads is not right whether your a mod or not.

I didn't hijack the thread. It was over. He was too old, and he was told as much. End of his boxing career.

I have been told that I'm not too old (having asked) at MT classes and am within a year or two of that guys age so I tried to help him out by offering an alternative. I /still/ don't see the problem. It is /not/ equivalent to "where can I find TKD classes", "don't do TKD".

Me being a mod has nothing to do with anything. I was trying to help the guy out.

cowzerp

Listen khannie o'k it was in the boxing thread but it was from contributors off this thread that hijacking happened so its the same thing , what happenned was a muay thai lad came out of nowhere and said he;d be beaten up in boxing and to go to muay thai instead then another well known muay thai lad chimed in also-the only reason why your been told that your not too old is because they want to build up there numbers,this is there business-are you suggesting that muay thai is easier than boxing? if your too old for 1 then your also too old for the other. you can train in either at any age. either way you know the point i was trying to make-as its the only bad thing on this site-debate is a good thing when debate is wanted..

judomick

khannie cowzerp , this has no relevance to this thread so stop, if it happened in the boxing forum go there and argue

cowzerp

The point is it happens on this thread aswell and is what gets most people fighting-if someone sez there art is better thats just an opinion and im o'k with that. so dont tell me where to go.

kenpo_dave

cowzerp wrote:

The point is it happens on this thread aswell and is what gets most people fighting-if someone sez there art is better thats just an opinion and im o'k with that. so dont tell me where to go.

Stop hijacking the thread cowzerp :rolleyes: . Lets stick to the point at hand. I think Mick has a good idea. Perhaps along with each synopsis could be a short list of where clubs for the style can be found and some contact info? It would also help reduce the number of repeat threads asking the same thing.

judomick

cowzerp wrote:

The point is it happens on this thread aswell and is what gets most people fighting-if someone sez there art is better thats just an opinion and im o'k with that. so dont tell me where to go.

the reason for this thread is to reduce arguments, not for you and khannie to debate a previous argument, so again please stop, im not going to tell you to go anywhere i suggest you stop, i also suggest you use a dictionary when you post, because some people might not be able to decipher such words as "sez"

cowzerp

judomick wrote:

After all the bull**** recently, i was thinking! usually not a good thing but anyways....

I think the majority of threads that do go a bit haywire have been when people ask questions such as "i want to start martial arts which one should i do" and " killer death touches are my thing, wheres the irish grandmaster living" so why dont people from every art submit a good synopsis on what there art is, benefits, class, maybe a vid displaying a little action!

The best are then selected, and put in a sticky thread, so anytime anyone is looking for information they can be directed there, instead of "ninjitsu makes you invisible" ..."no it doesnt your just a weirdo in pyjamas" type of threads.

also maybe a link to clubs in ireland, or a little note saying to pm the author of the thread for info on local clubs.

I dont see how this is a great idea as then there is no point in us talking at all-if you want links to other sites do a google search, im getting pissed off with all the nancy boys who are crying over nothing on these pages-i make a comment and get jumped on by all the hero's. do you want to talk martial arts or just read sticky after stickie-i dont want to read stickies anyway-:mad:

Nothingcompares

cowzerp wrote:

That has happened loads of times. i remember a while ago

I'm talking about that case specifically, BJJ over Judo

roo1981

JudoMick a nancy?? Learn somethin new every day :rolleyes:

Nothingcompares

Let's not get personal here. just a little discussion about another solution to a long term problem.

Let's just stay on topic from now on and agree to disagree on the other issue.

I think the wiki is the best bet because you can see who wrote what and who supports it. I think the problem with googling martial arts is the type of information that you come across most often is like " Judo was made in Japn by Kano, a University Professor who took bits from this that and whatever."

Personally I don't think the history lessons are important, certianly in the cases of Jujutsu and some Karate where it seems to get excessive emphasis.

I think the general format

1.Martial Art Name - Name

2. Five line description of it (typical training methods, degree of physical activity, patterns? Kata? Sparring? Lots of competitions? Gradings?

3. Where - List of known clubs and locations and contact details (possibly link to new page)

4. Who - list of boardsies that participate - coach/train/judge/talk about it

Of course people with questions should always just come to the board and ask and wait for an answer

judomick

cowzerp wrote:

I dont see how this is a great idea as then there is no point in us talking at all-if you want links to other sites do a google search, im getting pissed off with all the nancy boys who are crying over nothing on these pages-i make a comment and get jumped on by all the hero's. do you want to talk martial arts or just read sticky after stickie-i dont want to read stickies anyway-:mad:

have you even read my suggestion the whole point of this is for people looking to start martial arts and to give them some info on various MA's, not for the discussion of martial arts in general, if a newbie came on here and said im looking to start a martial art but dont know much about them would you say go google them if your so interested ? no you wouldnt, its happened various times that when someone does ask the threads descend into arguments so this imo is a good middle ground, im not entirely sure who your nancy boy comment is directed at? care to clarify?
im suggesting one stickie, and if you dont want to read it, then dont, again unless you have something positive to add i.e scramble, nothing compares , kenpo dave, then dont add anything,

Opinions of Mods would be welcome?

Khannie

judomick wrote:

the reason for this thread is to reduce arguments, not for you and khannie to debate a previous argument

Guilty as charged. Apologies lads. I'll keep it on topic from here on.

cowzerp

Debate over-thread back on track-Sorry-:p