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a few 1/2 hands

  • 22-03-2007 7:19pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭


    to take my mind of the bad run I'm having I'm posting a few hands for your opinions.

    Hand 1
    Villain is a tight and predictable playing 22/7 and a general winner.
    I have 280 he covers

    I get 99 utg and make it 7.
    SB and BB call
    Flop is 9 10 J rainbow
    checked to me.

    Bet or check and if I bet how much?
    I bet 18 SB folds BB min raises me to 36.

    call fold raise?? if raise how much?

    I call turn is 3. he pushes all in.

    my move??

    Result in white here : I folded.. I believe I'm beaten here

    Hand 2

    Villan is a good sophisticed player. I've played him many times and we would have good respect for each other. he's playing 27/13.

    I have JJ on the button and make it 10 to go after 1 mp limper.
    The BB (villan) raises to 30. limper folds.

    call/fold or Raise...?

    I call flop 955 rainbow.
    He checks.

    Check/bet?

    I check. Opinions?

    turn 10. he bets 25
    call/fold/raise?

    I raise to 75... opinions?

    he calls. river Q.

    he leads for 50..

    My move??

    result in white : I think I'm behind here but because of the size of the pot I call. He shows me QQ

    opinions on my play here.

    Hand 3

    Villan is a loose passive bad player (fish?) 59/2. he has 160 I cover
    I make it 7 from my button with J9o.
    BB calls.
    flop J42 rainbow.
    he checks. Bet or check?
    I bet 11. He calls.
    Turn Q he checks. Bet or check?
    I bet 25. he min raises to 50.

    Call/fold raise?

    Result in white . I'm not beating a whole lot here. He would have called my flop bet with a better Jack or overcards and could have spiked a Q. I folded.

    Opinions?


    Hand 4 (edited becase i can't count)

    Villan is a tight predictable winner playing 20/8. stacks 200+ each
    I get AK in the BB
    Villan makes it 9 from the CO.
    I RR to 30. He RR to 75

    Call/fold/push?

    I fold.. opinions?


    thanks guys...

    Mac

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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Hand 1, I call the all in, I imagine it is a pair and a draw far more times then a straight or a set.

    Hand 2, I wouldn't raise on the turn, I don't really see what he calls with that you beat. When he leads out on the river your nearly always beat but your getting 5-1 so I make a crying call but don't like it at all.

    Hand 3 I fold

    Hand 4 I fold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    #1 the most important thing here is his agg factor, if its very low you might able to fold, but generally never fold sets.
    LOL @ do you bet this flop - of course you do. I dont mind just calling the min raise to see the turn, but I would often 3 bet/call the flop

    #2 preflop is fine, check back the flop - induce bluffs from ak, hide the strength of our hand, very few worse hands call, and no better hand ever folds and we have position
    your turn raise sucks, thats a very straightforward call for the reasons above
    The price on the river is ridiculous but I would fold

    #3 I think you can usually only get 2 streets of value here, even from such a fish so I often check back the flop. Betting is fine though.
    Check the turn and vebt the river if he checks. As played v easy fold - you said yourself he is passive

    #4 this is a very easy fold now vs a 20/8. I think the 3 bet is fine, but I might call sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    the reason I might call pf with AK in #4 is because, depending on how light he calls 3 bets, AK kills 8% pfr range in the CO but isnt great against his calling range of a 3 bet, and suffers from bad reverse implied odds if we do 3 bet. However he is raising here with KJ,KQ, and A10+ so we can call and hit and get paid off then. I would play this hand very passively postflop, even when I hit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Captain Tom


    Hand 1:wow tough spot.always bet flop 18 looks good.flat call reraise looks ok too.4-bet vs tight villian probably folds out hands you beat.i think it comes down to what kind of range you put villian on p/f.does he flat call here with TT/JJ/78s?KQ is obviously a worry but villian seems worried considering turn overbet.2 pair/Pair+Open ended straight draw possible too.you're hand is somewhat under-repped here.i probably call but dont like it very much.

    Hand 2: p/f raise is fine,calling reraise in position is fine,especially when reasonably deep.I like the check behind on flop.villians line here is very suspicious.turn raise is pretty bad against a player you consider good.river.ugh.with so much in the pot i probably call and pray.

    Hand 3:betting flop here is fine.sometimes i check vs certain players.turn is an easy check.fold to minraise.

    Hand 4:i 3-bet this every time.fold to reraise considering read.also because 4-bet is suspiciously small.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    Hand 1 - I dont fold sets, so I go broke. A lot here, he can easily have QQ or something like QJ or JT or something. When you say predictable, what do you mean?

    Hand 2 - I like it up until the turn raise, I dont like the raise there. And I would fold the river as played. Even getting great odds, as we simply dont beat anything that takes this line, and he is not trying to get us to fold.

    Hand 3 - As played good fold, I dont mind checking either flop or turn in position, but betting is ok too, and fold to the minraise. I think you did fine here.

    Hand 4 - Sometimes I just call this preflop, but RR is ok too, and folding to the 4-bet is good against this dude.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭Macspower


    many thanks guys for your opinions.
    Fuzz.. I've played over 1000 hands with this guy .by predictable I mean I know most of the time what he's going to do and with what range. ie he raises with A10 + and pp's he RR with JJ+. He nearly always C bets any flop and checks the turn if called. Thats my read on him and hence I say predictable. Not a lot of good to me in this case though. what worried me here is he very seldom calls a raise out of position and if he's going to play a hand OOP he normally RR with it and bets the flop.

    Hand 2 looking at it now the turn raise was horrible. At the time I thought that he might have had AK and I could get him to fold but thats about the only hand that I could put him on that he would fold so it was bad.... My holding wasn't very strong and I was setting myself up to play a big pot which I didn't need to do. Knew he was value betting the river but felt I had to call and he knew it too(suppose I didn't have to call really.)

    Once again thanks for the opinions and time taken to look at the hands.

    Mac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Hand 1:

    You played it fine. He has a higher set or the nuts here always. Tight predictable winners at 1/2 never go broke with QQ or AA here.

    Hand 2:

    Instacheck that flop. Your turn raise is absolutely horrible and achieves nothing. River is a fold and it's not close.

    Hand 3:

    Without history, I'd prefer to check behind on the turn. Betting flop is good and folding to the turn minraise is also good. We're rarely to never ahead here.

    Hand 4:

    It's push or fold and I dont think either option is bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    pushing #4 is very bad, he has us crushed here always


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    valor and fuzz have summed things up, thread over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    I disagree, mainly because of hand 1. We're beaten here way more than we're ahead. And saying never fold sets is absolute bs. there are lots of situations where folding a set is correct.


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