You're a Star - Well done Irish Public

dave connolly

Show after show, the judges told everyone and practically demanded that everyone vote for 21 Demands.
A new rule was instituted so that the judges could save 21 Demands from voting out on 2 seperate shows.

When they got to the final there has probably never been more bias shown towards one of the acts in any show for several years. The RTE Presenters rode behind this as well, with The Afternoon Show canvassing for votes for 21 Demands.

Several different people came on shows trying to bully the Irish Public into voting for the band. From the way 21 Demands were being discussed, if you hadn't heard them, you would have thought it was probably time that U2 just retired because they surely couldn't step up to the mark anyone with 21 Demands on the prowl.

Luckily the Irish Public did what they wanted and voted for the better act. David O'Connor was not someone I supported from the start, he sort of sailed through under the radar, but on later shows he began to stand out more and more, as a true pro, with a very powerful and very good voice.

It is truly refreshing that the Irish Public stood up against the shameful promotion that was done of 21 Demands, and voted for the better performer.

By the way, when Thomas Black was asked for comments about the winner, he said:
"21 Demands are really going places and have a great future".
Then he muttered, "well done David", and spoke loudly "and big well done to 21 Demands".

Remember he was asked for his views on the winner. He is some tosspot. Hopefully with Louis Walsh not doing the X Factor, he will take Thomas Black's chair on You're a Star, and Thomas will get the sack, as he well deserves.

Rb

Lol, Dave O'Connor was (and remains to be) an absolute crock of sh1te. 21 Demands were robbed of the win, but it doesn't particularly matter as they're the ones who'll do the best out of the whole thing, despite not winning it.

We'll soon be rid of David O'Connor and his complete lack of talent, thankfully.

Madge

Yeah totally agree rb. The guy who won it is so mediocre, yeah he can hold a tune, but he's boring as hell, nothing special

lostexpectation

21 demands are just poseurs

humanji

You see, the problem is, if 21 Demands had one, they'd have one album and never be heard of again. But now that they haven't one, they'll be bought up under a better contract than You're A Star was offering and we'll probably be stuck with them for a few years

Wheels

While I don't agree with the fact they heavily promoted 21 Demands to win (for various reasons) I don't think David was a justified winner. He is bland as bland can be, and is merely a carbon copy of series 2 winner Chris Doran. Where is he now??

David appealed to the country folk with his "nice image" and cartoon esque "i hope we all do well" attitude. He was a joke from start to finish but only went to the end because 90% of the other acts were sh*t. In a year we'll never hear from him again apart from the odd You're A Star Plus sketch.

SprostonGreen

Look the fact is, 21 demands write their own songs, they perform them well and are a breath of fresh air to these talent shows in that they are not karoke singers.

The judges recognise this and promoted (not bullied the Irish public:rolleyes: ) them and not the bland mor rubbish of David O'Connor.

And this nonsense that the Irish Public did what they wanted and voted for the better act is pure cack. The text/phone in vote is nothing more than tribal community games blindness.

Mikosyko

There was no real talent in the show this year! Lucia Evans had massive talent but she vanished!

dave connolly

rb_ie wrote:

Lol, Dave O'Connor was (and remains to be) an absolute crock of sh1te. 21 Demands were robbed of the win,

How exactly were 21 Demands robbed of the win?

They would have been gone long ago, but for a rule brought in so that the judges could save them.

21 Demands didn't even deserve to get to the final, not to mind win the thing.

dave connolly

#Elites wrote:

the band should have won, as i'd say they will go places, while your man who won, will release 1 album and then fade away.

There was a band in the 2006 You're a Star, called Le-Mon or something like that.

The judges raved about how great they were, and even after they were dumped out the judges still discussed them. What happened to Le-Mon? Were they on tv again?

6ix

I saw one or two shows about 5/6 weeks ago and wasn't impressed at all with the level of talent across the board.

In all fairness, if 21 demands were any good, they wouldn't be using a TV talent show to boost themselves. They'd be working their way up by recording and releasing independently like many good Irish bands have done - from Thin Lizzy to more recent incarnations like Director.

Killaqueen!!!

6ix wrote:

I saw one or two shows about 5/6 weeks ago and wasn't impressed at all with the level of talent across the board.

In all fairness, if 21 demands were any good, they wouldn't be using a TV talent show to boost themselves. They'd be working their way up by recording and releasing independently like many good Irish bands have done - from Thin Lizzy to more recent incarnations like Director.

Why not? Any struggling band would jump at the chance to get some puclicity. 21 Demands were performing live every week and even got the oppurtunity to plug their own songs. Just because you don't like You're A Star doesn't mean you automatically don't give a band a chance. You might actually like them. I'm not particularly fussed about them. They're ok..it's just that there's so much hype about them because there's been no act in You're A Star that's actually had much talent...or a unique image about them etc.

21 Demands look so much better next to all the average kareoke sh1te that is on You're A Star. Didn't know til reading this thread that 21 Demands didn't win as I assumed automatically that they would win.......

Mossy Monk

6ix wrote:

In all fairness, if 21 demands were any good, they wouldn't be using a TV talent show to boost themselves

sort of agree. i have no problem with a band getting exposure for themselves but if this band is as good as some people are saying then surely they didn't need to win this show and now have their exposure

personally i thought they were terrible the night i watched the show

Utopia Parkway

dave connolly wrote:

Show after show, the judges told everyone and practically demanded that everyone vote for 21 Demands.
A new rule was instituted so that the judges could save 21 Demands from voting out on 2 seperate shows.

When they got to the final there has probably never been more bias shown towards one of the acts in any show for several years. The RTE Presenters rode behind this as well, with The Afternoon Show canvassing for votes for 21 Demands.

Several different people came on shows trying to bully the Irish Public into voting for the band. From the way 21 Demands were being discussed, if you hadn't heard them, you would have thought it was probably time that U2 just retired because they surely couldn't step up to the mark anyone with 21 Demands on the prowl.

Luckily the Irish Public did what they wanted and voted for the better act. David O'Connor was not someone I supported from the start, he sort of sailed through under the radar, but on later shows he began to stand out more and more, as a true pro, with a very powerful and very good voice.

It is truly refreshing that the Irish Public stood up against the shameful promotion that was done of 21 Demands, and voted for the better performer.

By the way, when Thomas Black was asked for comments about the winner, he said:
"21 Demands are really going places and have a great future".
Then he muttered, "well done David", and spoke loudly "and big well done to 21 Demands".

Remember he was asked for his views on the winner. He is some tosspot. Hopefully with Louis Walsh not doing the X Factor, he will take Thomas Black's chair on You're a Star, and Thomas will get the sack, as he well deserves.

Personally I thought they were all shíte.

6ix

Killaqueen!!! wrote:

Why not? Any struggling band would jump at the chance to get some puclicity. 21 Demands were performing live every week and even got the oppurtunity to plug their own songs.

I disagree. Current 'hot' Irish bands such as Director and the Blizzards had the same chance to sign up for You're a Star in recent years when they were "small". They didn't, and over time their gigs and demo releases got them the attention that they deserved, and became "big". Any band worth their salt wouldn't go on You're a Star IMO. Having said that, I saw "Dave's Radio" once in a pub, and enjoyed them.:D They're not exactly setting the world alight now though.

Killaqueen!!! wrote:

21 Demands look so much better next to all the average kareoke sh1te that is on You're A Star.

That may be, and they probably were better than their competition. There's nothing wrong with bands entering You're a Star for what it is but I disagree with those who think 21 Demands will "go far", or even relatively far as a result of the show.

shane86

This show is pretty much the kiss of death for any winner. Its been on what, 4 odd years now, and Id be hard pressed to even think of more than one song by each years winner.

Havent a clue what the winner sounded like, I quit watching after that Susan bird got thrown off

Mossy Monk

turns out this 21 Demands lot are number 1 in Ireland because of downloads alone

http://www.rte.ie/arts/2007/0323/youreastar.html

beanyb

I didnt watch You're a Star at all this year, but I heard the guy who won's version of 'Don't look back in anger' on the radio today. It was painfully awful. I had to change the station.

SprostonGreen

dave connolly wrote:

They would have been gone long ago, but for a rule brought in so that the judges could save them.

21 Demands didn't even deserve to get to the final, not to mind win the thing.

Listen, they changed the format of the show so that there would be one from two to be saved at the end of show, just like X Factor.

The public were not voting all week like the X Factor, its only on the night itself that votes are cast. So then how would the programme makers know that 21 Demands would be in the last two.

They couldn't and didn't, its as simple as that.

And you say 21 Demands didn't even deserve to get to the final, this despite the fact that they got to Number 2 in the charts and Number 1 in downloads.

You really haven't got a clue of what you're spouting on about.

humanji

[QUOTE=SprostonGreenAnd you say 21 Demands didn't even deserve to get to the final, this despite the fact that they got to Number 2 in the charts and Number 1 in downloads.[/QUOTE]


Considering Richie Kavanagh got to number one, it's no great victory on the part of 21 Demands.

The public voted out 21 Demands and they got dragged back in by the judges. That's not fair on the people that the public actually voted for. In the end, they were left with a bad bunch anyway.It's just like Aliens Vs Predator, "Whoever wins, we lose!"

_Kaiser_

humanji wrote:

The public voted out 21 Demands and they got dragged back in by the judges. That's not fair on the people that the public actually voted for. In the end, they were left with a bad bunch anyway.It's just like Aliens Vs Predator, "Whoever wins, we lose!"

I assume the public pays to vote as well? Clearly RTE aren't worried about watchdog backlash like C4 had to face when they pulled a similar stunt in Big Brother this/last year by bringing back someone that the public had voted out. :rolleyes:

SprostonGreen

humanji wrote:

The public voted out 21 Demands and they got dragged back in by the judges.

Not as such, they polled the least or second least amount of votes.

humanji wrote:

Considering Richie Kavanagh got to number one, it's no great victory on the part of 21 Demands.

True enough, but its a better indicator of talent than they tribal popularity "lets vote for Seanie coz he's from our county" text vote of Your A Star.

Wheels

SprostonGreen wrote:

You really haven't got a clue of what you're spouting on about.

Well said, I'm starting to think Dave is actually the simpleton that won it.

Jocksy

The text/phone in vote is nothing more than tribal community games blindness.

Spot on.

Just look at the number of county jerseys on display in the Helix for confrimation.

Cork

dave connolly wrote:

How exactly were 21 Demands robbed of the win?

They would have been gone long ago, but for a rule brought in so that the judges could save them.

21 Demands didn't even deserve to get to the final, not to mind win the thing.

21 demands were lucky to make it to the final 2.

I think the judging panel needs an over - haul.

Brendan O Connor?
Linda Martin??

Tg4 had a similar programme last year with Leslie Dowdall.

Thomas black

Reading these old posts critcising my support of 21 DEMANDS on You're a star makes me smile as the band as I predicted have gone on to great international success as KODALINE,real talent will always rise to the top.

Mr E

6 year old thread. Locked.