Is it an island?

man1

I am beginning to think that it is not an island, can't remember but did sayid and jin definitely sail all around the island or did they just turn back?
Same for desmond
Were there any other references or occasions where we know for sure that it is an island? (or am I just not paying attention!)
Maybe they are on the mainland but where?
Mad theory I know.

Reaps

Yeah i remember desmond saying the island was like a snowglobe or something and they say they need the beacon to reach the island so maybe they (others) have some sort of magnetic field which disrupts the reading of a compass.

ZiabR

I do remember reading somewhere that the LOST writers have not actually said they are on a Island. They have also not said that they are not on an Island. If in fact the losties held onto the boat they had, they would have been able to sail all the way around it and find the "other Island" that the others were on.

Thats the only reason Ben sent the others to get the boat off Sayid/Jin/Sun. So that they could not sail all the way around and find the others encampment.

I still think it is an Island, because anything else would just be stupid.

kevmy

Well Sawyer and co saw it from the Alcatraz island.
Also Danielle presumably wouldn't spend 16 years on the edge of the mainland

Anima

Its actually a peninsula :eek:

Kanney

Its an Island... Sawyer saw it from another island.

man1

Did sawyer (and our camera view) actually see the whole island with water all around it or was it just piece of land that filled the screen. I cant remember.
It isnt so strange that danielle has been on the island/mainland all this time and not discovered it wasnt an island. She didnt even know where the others camp and the pylons were or even the flame station? (or did she?)

somuj

Ben said to sawyer after walking him up the cliff.

"That this is not your island"

Tom aka Zeke also spoke the words "This is not your island, this is our island and the only reason your living on it is because we let you" or something similar.


Quite alot of the threads posted here are full of nonsense. People should pay more attention and maybe watch an episode twice or maybe just pay attention to it the first time.

man1

somuj wrote:

Quite alot of the threads posted here are full of nonsense. People should pay more attention and maybe watch an episode twice or maybe just pay attention to it the first time.

Sorry Somuj.

I didnt realise that I had to be an expert on Lost or have a degree on the subject to post here.
Not everyone here has watched every episode twice like you, some people might have missed an episode or perhaps they missed a moment or didnt get some part of it.
The point of this forum is for people to be able to air their views and theories (however clever or stupid) and to ask questions involving incidents and characters in lost that they might not understand.
We can also bring up different topics to discuss.
I didnt think I had to do an exam on the subject to be allowed to post here.

Anyway I guess we will all be wrong about our theories and ideas when the show finally ends. (If it ever does)

ZiabR

man1 wrote:

Sorry Somuj.

I didnt realise that I had to be an expert on Lost or have a degree on the subject to post here.
Not everyone here has watched every episode twice like you, some people might have missed an episode or perhaps they missed a moment or didnt get some part of it.
The point of this forum is for people to be able to air their views and theories (however clever or stupid) and to ask questions involving incidents and characters in lost that they might not understand.
We can also bring up different topics to discuss.
I didnt think I had to do an exam on the subject to be allowed to post here.

Anyway I guess we will all be wrong about our theories and ideas when the show finally ends. (If it ever does)

Where your topics may or may not have been covered before mate, it is good to at least get some life back into the fourm. It doesnt matter if you ask simple or hard questions, the fact is, it gets people talking and that is the purpose of the fourms.

Star Lord

Man1 don't pay any attention, and ask away, and post your own theories. That is the puropse of the forum, not for only the people who "know it all".

badgerbadger

it has to be an island

anotherlostie

This was the first fan question asked in this week's podcast, and Damon and Carlton took the piss out of the question, and simply confirmed that yes, it is an island. So that will do for me!

Sinfonia

man1 wrote:

Sorry Somuj.

I didnt realise that I had to be an expert on Lost or have a degree on the subject to post here.
Not everyone here has watched every episode twice like you, some people might have missed an episode or perhaps they missed a moment or didnt get some part of it.
The point of this forum is for people to be able to air their views and theories (however clever or stupid) and to ask questions involving incidents and characters in lost that they might not understand.
We can also bring up different topics to discuss.
I didnt think I had to do an exam on the subject to be allowed to post here.

Anyway I guess we will all be wrong about our theories and ideas when the show finally ends. (If it ever does)

Well then, now you know better.














Just messin

Linku

This was answered in the latest official podcast (March 20 2007) - "Yes."

ZiabR

Linku wrote:

This was answered in the latest official podcast (March 20 2007) - "Yes."

Yeah i also read that.

upmeath

logik wrote:

I do remember reading somewhere that the LOST writers have not actually said they are on a Island. They have also not said that they are not on an Island.

Wouldn't it have been extremely silly or just cruelly misleading of Michael Giacchino to entitle one of the pieces he composed for the show "The Eyeland"?

Mr.Nice Guy

Anima wrote:

Its actually a peninsula :eek:

LOL brilliant.

ZiabR

upmeath wrote:

Wouldn't it have been extremely silly or just cruelly misleading of Michael Giacchino to entitle one of the pieces he composed for the show "The Eyeland"?

LOL :P

upmeath

The Others/Tom/Zeke/Ben may just be picking up on the fact that the Losties think it's an island and they're playing them along... After all, they had Ethan Rom and Goodwin infiltrate both camps from day one and they would have gotten a pretty good feel for what the survivors thought of the place, what it was and where it was.
It's so weird though, if not an island then where do you think it's a peninsula of. Some very sparsely populated part of Indonesia?

somuj

Flying from Australia to Los Angeles, don't know of any continent in between. So where does this penisula come from.

As far as I know they were not on Concorde or some other kind of super sonic flying machine, so the difference in displacement within the alloted time of flying puts them in the fricken paciffic ocean and since their not threading water it stands to reason that their on an island.

The fact that alot of the passengers did not loose conciousness means they could not have been transported unware to themselves to the land of Narnia err I mean some peninsula on the mainland.

upmeath

Sydney to LA
6 hours in
Then it got turbulent, so they headed back for Fiji and fell out of the sky...

Most commercial jets travel in the region of 500-600 miles per hour, headwinds and loading permitting of course.
Therefore we can assume they'd covered between 3000 and 3600 miles when they decided to turn back for Fiji.
(Start-Google Earth)
And let's not forget the pilot's famous last words ("we're over a thousand miles off course")
That leaves them somewhere in the middle of the Pacific Ocean between Fiji, Samoa, Tuvalu, Wallis and Futuna and a whole range of other islands mostly used for nuclear testing by France and the US in the mid-1900s. Setanta ó hAilpín might have some answers for them I suppose...
But one thing is certain, they're nowhere near any substantial land masses, everything's an island out there!

Sinfonia

maybe they saw it from the window of the plane

ixoy

Well I've asked this already - how did they know. I'd ask why they didn't bother making more of an attempt to discover if they were on an island, instead of assuming it, but then I'd be asking why the characters don't try more regular attempts at exploring and being rational and then I know that's asking too much

I think we can assume it's an island now that we've seen it from the 2nd island but before that no such assumptions could be made and it was ridiculous none of the characters questioned that.

ZiabR

ixoy wrote:

Well I've asked this already - how did they know. I'd ask why they didn't bother making more of an attempt to discover if they were on an island, instead of assuming it, but then I'd be asking why the characters don't try more regular attempts at exploring and being rational and then I know that's asking too much

I think we can assume it's an island now that we've seen it from the 2nd island but before that no such assumptions could be made and it was ridiculous none of the characters questioned that.

Yeah they did kinda take it for granted that whey were on an Island. If it were me, i would want to know all i could about where i was living.

badgerbadger

wouldn't they have seen it was an island from the plane

Saruman

I would assume when they climbled to the highest peak to get a radio signal they got their confirmation. I mean they could celarly see in most directions around them and it was all water, so bar it being a tiny narrow peninsula thats just a wave away from being an island then its safe to say its an island and it was obvious to them its an island.

ZiabR

Saruman wrote:

I would assume when they climbled to the highest peak to get a radio signal they got their confirmation. I mean they could celarly see in most directions around them and it was all water, so bar it being a tiny narrow peninsula thats just a wave away from being an island then its safe to say its an island and it was obvious to them its an island.

True but as we all know, the losties don't like to tell each other things. I mean everytime one of them finds something, they like to keep it to themselves. I actually hate them about them.

johnp

Saruman wrote:

I would assume when they climbled to the highest peak to get a radio signal they got their confirmation. I mean they could celarly see in most directions around them and it was all water, so bar it being a tiny narrow peninsula thats just a wave away from being an island then its safe to say its an island and it was obvious to them its an island.

I don't think they got to the very top of the peak, just a little bit up until they heard the message.

event

lads, its an island, the writers confirmed it

end of discussion really

pduffy50

badgerbadger wrote:

wouldn't they have seen it was an island from the plane

Would you notice an island out the window of a plane that has no tail end and is about to fall out of the sky.
'O Look there's an island aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah'

badgerbadger

they could have seen the island before the tail came off

ZiabR

The last thing i would be doing when the Pilot was shouting "Mayday, Mayday" and the plane is shaking like crazy is looking out the window :P

man1

badgerbadger wrote:

they could have seen the island before the tail came off

True but more than likely if they saw an island before all the **** happened, it probably wasnt the one they landed in?
If they were flying over one and then the plane started to crash/blow up they would probably crash a couple of miles away from what they saw at that stage.
The plane would be going so fast and they would all be ****ting themselves to see where they were as logik.
Anyway no one said they saw anything from the plane, but I suppose if they had they wouldnt tell anyone. As they do!

Maybe it is an Island but is very large like fiji or somewhere like that and they are just at one end of it and it has normal towns and cities (ok maybe not cities) at the other side.

And why are there no natives running around with grass skirts and bones through their noses????

The inland lake is an interesting one that has come up.

God I am bored and dont know why I cant accept that it is only a small Island with just them and the others. Ah well!!!!!!! It is just my stubborness. (spelling?)

johnp

man1 wrote:

True but more than likely if they saw an island before all the **** happened, it probably wasnt the one they landed in?
If they were flying over one and then the plane started to crash/blow up they would probably crash a couple of miles away from what they saw at that stage.
The plane would be going so fast and they would all be ****ting themselves to see where they were as logik.
Anyway no one said they saw anything from the plane, but I suppose if they had they wouldnt tell anyone. As they do!

Maybe it is an Island but is very large like fiji or somewhere like that and they are just at one end of it and it has normal towns and cities (ok maybe not cities) at the other side.

And why are there no natives running around with grass skirts and bones through their noses????

The inland lake is an interesting one that has come up.

God I am bored and dont know why I cant accept that it is only a small Island with just them and the others. Ah well!!!!!!! It is just my stubborness. (spelling?)

Or an island like Australia :cool:

badgerbadger

they probly didnt see it from de plane but if it was a big island theres more chance that they would have