How bad was my play here

patmac

I don't usually post hands here but as I recently qualified for the Irish Open online, I decided to play the €100 freezeout in Ballinasloe to get used to live play. Armed with a tight strategy I entered confidently enough but lasted only about 15 minutes and left pretty deflated, was this bad play or bad luck or a bit of both. 9 players at the table, everyone has approxiamately 6500 chips(starting stack) 5th hand: SB 25 bb 50 I limp from 4th position with KQos one other caller. Flop is 3Q3 rainbow SB and BB check I raise to 300 BB calls. Turn is J BB checks I check (mistake possibly), river is a 2 BB checks I bet 500 BB raises to 2000 I call. SB shows K3.
Very next hand SB (same player) 25 BB 50 I look down at AA raise to 200, one other and SB calls. Flop is 3 Q J, SB bets 500 I raise all in 3750 and he calls shows JJ which holds up.
Any analysis would be appreciated as I'm starting to doubt whether or not to play in the big one.

Jaden

General Tip:
Early on in a live Tournament, MUBTS is perfectly valid, especially in an unraised pot PF. Keep the pots small early on. Picking on people by building large pots on the bubble, when people are worried about tournament life is much more profitable.

2nd hand, you just got unlucky. Raise more PF at Pokerevent's tournaments. My standard is 4/5 BBs, plus 1BB for every limper.

LuckyLloyd

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BigCityBanker

Where is this game played in Ballinasloe and on what nights? Is is true that there does be some decent cash game action on these nights also?

Plenty of gambloooors with big tanks down there - could be a beneficial trip for a lad if the people who I have been told play the game actually do!

Hand 1 - check on the turn is fine - you are controlling the pot size. I think id check call the river rather than bet call a raise.
Hand 2 - Raise slightly more preflop. After that its a cold deck. A hand like this is a nightmare scenario for all. I hope I can avoid it at the Irish Open. You have not given yourself a chance to get away from the hand if you are beat tho. In a game like this Im pretty sure I go broke also.

patmac

BigCityBanker wrote:

Where is this game played in Ballinasloe and on what nights? Is is true that there does be some decent cash game action on these nights also?

Plenty of gambloooors with big tanks down there - could be a beneficial trip for a lad if the people who I have been told play the game actually do!

The game is played in Haydens Hotel bring a jacket (I didn't and it was the only benefit from being Knocked out early), as for the standard 15 minutes wasn't long enough to assess but I noticed a few who used to play the Monday night game in Athlone until the new casino knocked that on the head.
I know that some of the players qualify from the local pub events around.
As for gambloooors with big stacks us countryfolk are made up of poor farmers and we have feck all money, so youd be better off robbing the jackeens instead of coming down here and trying to take our last few shillings.

patmac

LuckyLloyd wrote:

On hand two, you haven't indicated whether the flop was rainbow or came with a flush draw. In any case, the shove is only good if you think he will pay you off with AQ // KQ. And by shoving, you give him the best chance to fold these hands. I would call (particularly if board is rainbow) and give him the opportunity to bluff at me with a weaker hand. Good players will fold everyhting you beat, and only call when you are miles behind after you shove that flop.


You will definately have to run better in the ME aswell...:)

Flop was rainbow.

Captain Tom

first of all i wouldnt get very worried from a sample size of 1 tournament.its very easy to fall victim to variance/play bad in the short term and it happens to everybody.

hand 1 i raise p/f.from there i play the hand pretty similar but fold river.once you get c/raised youre not beating anything.

hand 2 you could flat call as lloyd said but pushing here with a relatively short stack isnt bad either.

good luck in the irish open.

connie147

In the first hand once youve got yourself involved, the bet on the flop was fine but once you got a call from within the blinds, alarm bells should be going off in you head that he could have the 3. So really you should have checked it down from here which he gave you every oppertunity to do.You definately shouldnt have called his RR after the river.

In the very next hand when you picked up AA, you could have made an overbet like 350 because players would think you were on a bit of tilt. It wouldnt have changed much though cause the guy with JJ was probably gonna call anyway. He actually played the hand well, his bet out on a set, got you to come over the top with your overpair. You didnt do a whole lot wrong in this hand.

gdez

People are saying that once he was in the 1st hand that his bet on the flop was fine, but he bet (actually said that he raised, but i presume that he meant bet) 300 into a pot of 200, now if he was right to check on the turn to control the size of the pot then betting 300 on the flop is doing anything but.

Plus letting the blinds in to see a flop with 2 3's should always slow u down with TP.

Captain Tom

gdez wrote:

People are saying that once he was in the 1st hand that his bet on the flop was fine, but he bet (actually said that he raised, but i presume that he meant bet) 300 into a pot of 200, now if he was right to check on the turn to control the size of the pot then betting 300 on the flop is doing anything but.

Plus letting the blinds in to see a flop with 2 3's should always slow u down with TP.

didnt see the flop overbet.i agree with betting in that spot but 300 is too much.

i agree with checking the turn but once villian checks turn and river i expect to have the best hand and v/bet hoping to be called by a worse q.once c/raised its an easy fold though.

patmac

gdez wrote:

People are saying that once he was in the 1st hand that his bet on the flop was fine, but he bet (actually said that he raised, but i presume that he meant bet) 300 into a pot of 200, now if he was right to check on the turn to control the size of the pot then betting 300 on the flop is doing anything but.

Plus letting the blinds in to see a flop with 2 3's should always slow u down with TP.

What would be the correct bet on the flop?

gdez

patmac wrote:

What would be the correct bet on the flop?

Probably about half that.
Plus by betting lower on the flop your more likely to be check raised & know where he stands.

connie147

Only 200 in the pot so 150/ 175/200 would be good.

The C Kid

I think betting the river in Hand One is good.

Not betting it would be a mistake, given the usual standard of pokerevents games.

I think you played both hands fine.

ntlbell

Hand 1.

As stated, Don't open limp. It will usually avoid you getting into this siutation in the first place.

Hand 2. It's a bit meh. There's very few cards that can come to prevent all the money going in turn/river.