due to play in a very stony pub...

seaner

i'll explain.....
We're due to do a gig in a pub that has a very low ceiling, with mostly stone on the walls etc. There's no floor boards just tiles, and i'm afraid that we're goin to sound crap! Will the sound be very 'tinny'?
Any advice on how we should set up..and advice on the sound check etc.

BTW, we're 2 guitarists, 1 drummer and bassist.
Going through individual amps, with vocals on a Dynacord 600 powermate with 2 tops and 2 bins. Actually, i'd say probably bass will also go through desk too.

Anyway any advice is appreciated!

So Glad

I knew a tribute band who used to play in a very "stoney" pub and they sounded great. Don't know why you should worry.

david

Shouldnt really be a problem really if theres a big crowd there... A few points to remember..

Run your guitars/vocals dry.. you dont need extra reverb,

Dont try to over compensate with boosting bass and low mids, itll sound boomy, keep youre LCF's on vocals.

Dont worry about tinny sounds, the bass is what'll kill your sound if its boosted, a populated pub would absorb a lot of treble.

Giblet

The drums are going to be LOUD!

I played in a tiled room and the drums were crazy.

Savman

seaner wrote:

Dynacord 600 powermate with 2 tops and 2 bins.

How are you rigging that up? Surely you're not powering 4 speakers off that 600w desk?

david

Savman wrote:

How are you rigging that up? Surely you're not powering 4 speakers off that 600w desk?

+1 Do yourself a favour, get an active crossover and a > 1k amp and have the lows running seperately

seaner

Savman wrote:

How are you rigging that up? Surely you're not powering 4 speakers off that 600w desk?

no sorry forgot to mention we have a 500watt H/H amp. I'm not sure what ohms the amp and speaker run at...i don't directly look after the rigging of it all. That would be the drummer...(don't ask )

Anyway all i wanted was some advice./tips etc.

Freakonaleashx - Can you explain this - "keep youre LCF's on vocals"

Sorry i'm a fairly newbie, and appreciate all time/effort that you guys can give me!

Cheers!

david

LCF = low cut filter, it cuts extreme low frequencies, usually its a switch on your mixers channel strip near the gain pot. These are commonly used to improve vocal clarity

seaner

Umm... i don't think we have this? I've just taken the desk out and had a look and I can't see it. Maybe I need to get a better desk! The powermate 600 is probably getting too small for us at this stage.
I've quite a boomey voice so I'll normally lash up the mid in my mic line, but I guess if we were able to apply this 'LCF' it would be much better for us.

Doctor J

It's sometimes called a high pass filter or will have an icon like the red line in this graph

david

Nothing wrong with a Dynacord 600 for pub gigs... Was lookin at a jpg of the channel strip and cant see an LCF funnily enough... you could just roll off some of the lows on the mixer.. have them set at about 10 o clock on vocals

Savman

The Powermate 600's are far from ideal for a live band set-up. Even the PM1000 struggles with a moderately loud band. Grand for acoustic stuff though.

david

As a mixer its grand if you dont need more channels than it has... it is underpowered though