Yet Another Aldi Computer COMING SOON!!

WarZoneBrother

Hey i just by chance decided to go on aldi and lidl and while at aldi.ie i seen on front page that there will be a medion 8822 coming soon to aldi.Does anyone else know more stuff about it.It looks like the one that was there a while back.And also would they all be sold out in a few minutes and anyone know when they will be in stores.

Heres the specs anyways AFAIK:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400
320GB HDD
1GB Ram
Nvidia Geforce 7650 256mb graphics card
18 x Dvd/Cd burner Dual layer and Light Scribe
16x DVD Rom
Vista Home Premium

And a price of 800euros there is more on the specs but its all in german and i cant copy and paste on macbook pro..There will also be more stuff like monitors etc when this is on sale.I found the specs by googling Medion MD 8822 if someone wants to know...

Thanks,
WZB

Smoggy

http://www.aldi-sued.de/de/html/offers/sonderaktion_3203.htm

BrendanD

#Elites wrote:

http://www.aldi-sued.de/de/html/offers/1213_3218.htm

offer to the PC.

wtf is the hardrive? you can unplug it from the top

Yes its an optional extra

peckerhead

Wonder if they'll have that HDD 2 Go here, and if it'll be €99.99 here too? (Last time they did a 320GB external drive here it was €119.99...)

wba88

does it mean the pc has 320gb and the optional extra would make it 640gb or what?

fl4pj4ck

#Elites wrote:

i would assume so.. 320 interal and 320 external.

id say it will be rather 2x160g

Oracle

I've copied the following spec for this computer from a translation by Babel Fish:

The original!
Entertainment PC MD 8822
799, - *

Now with Windows Vista™ Home Premium with new Media center surface!
(already before-installs)

* Optimal achievement!
Intel® core™2 duo processor E6400
(2,13 GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 1066 MHz FSB)

Strong achievement with small energy consumption.
Strong Multimedia Potenzial.

The innovative Intel® core™2 duo processors, which are based on® the Intel™ core micro architecture, is aligned to strong achievement and small energy consumption, so that you can at the same time more settle, without having to be received at the speed compromises.

* Windows Vista™ Home Premium!

Windows Vista™ brings clarity into your world, so that you can settle daily tasks surely and easy, immediately finds, what you look for, which experience fire-current maintenance offers and both at home and on the way in connection can remain.

* Diagram map of the top class!

NVIDIA® GeForce® 7650 gs diagram map
(passively cooled) with HDMI connection
Full Hp Gaming power and high-quality video experience at the PC.
256 MT DDR2, hp mixing CCIT place and DVI exit.

* Storage capacity simply without cables
endlessly expandable!

The MEDION data port 2 for the hp drive 2 go ultra speed. The direct and uncomplicated connection of an external non removable disk hp drive 2 go ultra speed to your PC without annoying interwirings.
(hp drive 2 go ultra of speed non removable disk, not in the scope of supply contain.)
o newest interface technology SATA Docking haven for hp drive 2 go ultra speed non removable disks
o newest interface technology for external mass storages
o no more speed disadvantage for external non removable disks

* Enormous main memory 1024 MT
DDR2 SDRAM with 533 MHz 64 bits (1 Slot freely for armament)

* SEAGATE®
Gigantic 320 GB non removable disk
S-ATA 300 interfaces, super+fast 7200 U/Min, 8 MT Cache

* MEDION®
The whole world of the television
3 in 1 TV tV-Tuner, DVB t2, DVB s3, similar to TV

* LIGHTSCRIBE®
18 x multi-standard DVD/CD burner4
with dual Layer and LightScribe™5 technology

* LG® DVD drive assembly
16 x DVD ROM

* MEDION®
Extremely quietly owing to optimized heat management by VTX housing technology, combines also highly efficient Heatpipe radiator technology and extremely quiet exhausts.

* MEDION®
InterNet & DSL ready
Network CONTROLLER on board, nearly Ethernet 10/100 Mbit/s

* MEDION®
Wireless network entrance6
Integrated WLAN 54Mbit/s IEEE 802.11g, 802.11b compatibly.

* DOLBY DIGITAL
Dolby certified PowerDVD included.
8 channel High definition audio
Digital home cinema experience with optimal sound7.

* MEDION®
Multimedia on push of a button
Television *, video, photo or music enjoy completely simply by push of a button. To serve very easy with the remote maintenance.
* (DVB s is not supported)

* Connections front side:
o 2 x USB
o 1 x Firewire
o 1 x microphone
o 1 x headphone
o 1 x audio in
o 1 x Composite in
o 1 x s-video-in

* Integrated USB of 2,0 Flash card readers
and writes all usual Flashkarten reads.
Memory cards in the scope of supply do not contain.

* Connections back:
o 2 x PS/2 haven (mouse, keyboard)
o COM haven
o LPT1 (parallel haven)
o optical and Coax S/P DIF audio connections
o 4 x USB haven
o Network connection
o Firewire (IEEE 1394)
o side surround
o Front
o center/more subwoofer
o bake surround
o LINE in
o 1 x DVI i
o 1 x VGA
o 1 x HDMI

* Antenna entrances:
o DVB s, similar/DVB t

* TV Out connections:
o 1 x s-video
o 1 x Composite
o 1 x Component
o 1 x SCART

* Scope of supply:
o Radio remote maintenance
o Radio keyboard
o optical radio mouse

* Software package
OEM versions. Vorinstalliert and/or on CD/DVD and/or Recovery DVD.

o Windows Vista Home Premium
With new Media center surface
32 bits version, 64 bits version before-installs additionally on Recovery DVD.

Windows Vista™ compatible programs
For references whether its existing programs Windows Vista™ are compatible, click you please here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933305/de#appliesto

o Medion Home Cinema Suite
PowerDirector 5 SE
PowerDVD 7
Power producer 3
MediaShow

o nero Essentials
Nero Burning ROM 7 Essentials4
Nero Recode 2SE Essentials4
Nero express Essentials4
Nero vision express Essentials4

o Microsoft® Works 8.5

o Again: Office 2007 Trial version
(60 days test version): Their MD 8822 contains a free 60-Tage test version. If you want to use the product after the 60 days run off further, you can acquire the product available.

o Ulead PhotoImpact
Picture working on package for a risers and ambitionierte users.

o WISO my money 2007

o T-Online

o MEDION photo on CD
powered by MAGIX
Where with all the photos? Hundreds of vacation -, person and landscape photographs as well as pictures from the InterNet. Now experience again simply by DVD Player and televisions! As sensational Foto-show completely on CD burned.

o InterNet Security package
Bullguard InterNet Security is 90 days a full version. These 90 days test version supplies you free of charge with all important updates from the InterNet (free registration necessarily). After the 90 days run off you can acquire the product, if you want to use it further.

o Sceneo Bonavista
With Sceneo Bonavista know you at any time, what runs straight: The electronic program leader supplies detailed information to the eight most important TV transmitters - free and owing to on-line update (InterNet connection necessarily) always current.

o System recovery powered by Symantec
www.symantec.com


Full one 3 years warranty
365 days in the year Hotline service
Also after 36 months warranty help
we you naturally further.

slave1

I have the last version of this pc, the hdd is a single 320gig, it's hdmi will provide 1080p to a compliant tv...

TerrorFirmer

Graphics card is typically fairly weak as seems to be the norm with Aldi computers but the rest of the spec, for 799, is pretty good.

nodolan

For 799 it's not bad...but...there's no monitor - that'll set you back around 200 for a decent one to match the output capacity - that puts you up to a grand (you'll get a pretty good Dell for that).

Another small (ish) problem - there's a reason why it comes with Vista Premium and my guess is is that it can't run Vista Ultimate with the Aero/Glass interface.

The Windows Experience Index (WEI) is very tough and you need a 4.0 to get the full blown interface running (AFAIK). There's no WEI score on the aldi.de website and there should be with all new PCs (again AFAIK).

example Dells:

Dell Dimension 9200 € 1,334.70 with twice the memory, a better CPU and a 20" screen
Dell Dimension E520 € 1,112.58 with twice the memory, a better CPU and a 19" screen

TerrorFirmer

#Elites wrote:

its not that weak now....easly play hl2/css etc..

No, but those games you've mentioned run on mid to high settings on integrated graphics. It's not a terrible card but it is a fairly weak one relative to the rest of the hardware and will hold it back.

kaizersoze

nodolan wrote:

For 799 it's not bad...but...there's no monitor - that'll set you back around 200 for a decent one to match the output capacity - that puts you up to a grand (you'll get a pretty good Dell for that).

Another small (ish) problem - there's a reason why it comes with Vista Premium and my guess is is that it can't run Vista Ultimate with the Aero/Glass interface.

The Windows Experience Index (WEI) is very tough and you need a 4.0 to get the full blown interface running (AFAIK). There's no WEI score on the aldi.de website and there should be with all new PCs (again AFAIK).

example Dells:

Dell Dimension 9200 € 1,334.70 with twice the memory, a better CPU and a 20" screen
Dell Dimension E520 € 1,112.58 with twice the memory, a better CPU and a 19" screen

Home premium has the Aero interface. Home basic doesn't.

TerrorFirmer

nodolan wrote:

Another small (ish) problem - there's a reason why it comes with Vista Premium and my guess is is that it can't run Vista Ultimate with the Aero/Glass interface.

Thats totally misinformed. A 7650 is about quadruple what you need to run Vista at full whack.

nodolan

I stand corrected on the Home Premium remark (link) but that still doesn't mean that you'll actually get the full Aero/Glass effects which is what I meant to say.

As for HavoK's comment - please back it up instead of just making a blank statement that doesn't address anything. The inference of saying that I'm misinformed is that you are informed so inform me then.

There is a huge difference between Vista Premium Ready PCs and Aero/Glass capable PCs.

I have been running Vista Ultimate since it was released and despite having a laptop that's only six months old it cannot achieve the Aero/Glass interface because one component brings down my total WEI - a 256mb integrated Intel graphics chip that doesn't have WDDM drivers.

In the first service pack it is likely that MS will make the Aero requirements even more strict. WDDM and DirectX10 will demand a lot from even brand new PCs.

Go look for NVIDIA® GeForce® 7650 GS WDDM drivers - which are absolutely essential to run Aero/Glass - you can't find them (just Beta drivers that crash).

Instead you'll find hacked versions and websites that talk about class action lawsuits against Nvidia for not providing drivers.

The current 'official' drivers for the GeForce 7-series only support OpenGL and not DX10 which is essential for the full Aero/Glass interface.

Now HavoK - show me your information - show me the proof that the "7650 is quadruple what you need to run Vista at full whack" which is 256/4=64 btw.

:rolleyes:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070206-8784.html

kaizersoze

nodolan wrote:

There is a huge difference between Vista Premium Ready PCs and Aero/Glass capable PCs.

Those ratings were used in the pre-Vista release days, for guidance only, and are now reduntant. Vista is here now so whatever pre-built pc you buy will have hardware capable of running whatever version of Vista is installed on it.

Btw, I have a desktop with a crap graphics card runing Ultimate and a WEI of 2.4. The Aero nterface works on it no problem. I don't know where you're getting a minimum rating of 4 to run Aero.

nodolan

A score of 2.8 with WDDM drivers will enable Aero but with serious performance hits (of course you'll write back and say that everything is lovely so whatever). To say you have it running on a 2.4 system contradicts all the other posts that I have read on the web so far. Please post your proofs - your system specs and a screenshot of Aero/Glass with this post in the background.

It may also regularly drop back down to a regular theme with no warning. It may not have the Glass effects which is an added enhancement to Aero.

All the online documentation (including that from MS) says that yes you can enable and hack the Aero interface on a sub-3.0 system but you will take a massive hit in performance. A minimum of 3.0 with provisios such as WDDM drivers will run Aero but again you will suffer performance hits - a score of 4.0 overall is the preferred WEI score for overall system stability and performance.

Microsoft

A computer with a base score of 4 or 5 is able to run all new features of Windows Vista with full functionality, and it is able to support high-end, graphics-intensive experiences, such as multiplayer and 3‑D gaming and recording and playback of HDTV content. Computers with a base score of 5 were the highest performing computers available when Windows Vista was released.

Plus on top of that the WEI may actually be calculated incorrectly by Vista on your machine and the Aero interface will not be available.

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/how_much_oomph_does_vista_really_need.html
http://oakleafblog.blogspot.com/2006/12/microsoft-gives-bloggers-sub-aero-28.html
http://oakleafblog.blogspot.com/search/label/Windows%20Vista
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/pages/458117.aspx
http://notgartner.wordpress.com/2006/12/29/ferrari-1000-the-windows-experience-index/
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000678.html

Your PC's performance is only as good as the slowest subsystem WEI score.

billius

everything is lovely

kaizersoze

billius wrote:

everything is lovely

nodolan wrote:

of course you'll write back and say that everything is lovely so whatever)

Everything was lovely until Sunday night. Then the graphics card went tits-up.

Divenut

This goes on sale 29th March and the price will be £549.99 not as quoted before £799, full page advert in Computer Active issue 237

Markjsca1

799 euro...not sterling. £550Stg = ~€810....

Divenut

Sorry guys I'm new to this board as I tripped over it on a google search, I didnt realise you were talking euros as there was no symbol. I stand corrected!!

murphaph

I have vista running lovely on a 386

TerrorFirmer

nodolan wrote:

I stand corrected on the Home Premium remark (link) but that still doesn't mean that you'll actually get the full Aero/Glass effects which is what I meant to say.

As for HavoK's comment - please back it up instead of just making a blank statement that doesn't address anything. The inference of saying that I'm misinformed is that you are informed so inform me then.

There is a huge difference between Vista Premium Ready PCs and Aero/Glass capable PCs.

I have been running Vista Ultimate since it was released and despite having a laptop that's only six months old it cannot achieve the Aero/Glass interface because one component brings down my total WEI - a 256mb integrated Intel graphics chip that doesn't have WDDM drivers.

In the first service pack it is likely that MS will make the Aero requirements even more strict. WDDM and DirectX10 will demand a lot from even brand new PCs.

Go look for NVIDIA® GeForce® 7650 GS WDDM drivers - which are absolutely essential to run Aero/Glass - you can't find them (just Beta drivers that crash).

Instead you'll find hacked versions and websites that talk about class action lawsuits against Nvidia for not providing drivers.

The current 'official' drivers for the GeForce 7-series only support OpenGL and not DX10 which is essential for the full Aero/Glass interface.

Now HavoK - show me your information - show me the proof that the "7650 is quadruple what you need to run Vista at full whack" which is 256/4=64 btw.

:rolleyes:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070206-8784.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/vista_driver_news_030207.html

What? Dx10? You do know, yes, that the only card that supports DX10 is the 8800 series, the 6 or 7 series will not and cannot ever support Dx10?

The 7 series runs Vista perfectly fine now wddm drivers with Aero - the problem was Drivers, not the capability of the card itself, which will be sorted in time. This is where your comparison to the GMA950 falls flat - your card is basically, a piece of crap when it comes to brute power. The 7600/7650GS is not.

So my comment still stands - a 7650GS is more then enough for Vista and all it took was a bit of patience to wait for drivers.

The mimimum rating is also not quite right - I don't own Vista myself but I've seen plenty of cards running Aero fine - IGPs like GMA950, X200 etc are fine all of which would have scored lower then 4.

As for your comment about your 'only six months old' laptop, thats hardly relevant, it's possible to go out this very instant and buy a laptop that wouldn't even be capable of running aero full stop, it's up to the consumer to research these things.

I assume you have the GMA950 as there's nothing else Intel available right now to run Vista - it runs Aero fine but they took it out at the last minute. I don't know if they're going to get it back in at all so you might be stuck running basic vista. The X3000 will take over for Vista users anyway soon enough...

vasch_ro

could we get back on track and say wether this pc is worth buying or not please ?:)

TerrorFirmer

It's pretty good. Great connectivity.

Sniipe

Low enough memory for a decent machine now a days in my opinion. Graphics card really isn't that bad. What won't it run well?

jpfahy

I wonder what the psu is like, could you just swap in a high end videocard, then you would have a fine machine or would that overload the system.
Whose motherboards do Medion use.
Pity theres no Gigabit LAN, strange omission that.

TerrorFirmer

Sniipe wrote:

Low enough memory for a decent machine now a days in my opinion. Graphics card really isn't that bad. What won't it run well?

It's not terrible but it's not great either. It'll run anything out there as long as you adjust settings - but for the latest titles you'll have to start turning down settings big time. As I said - it's by no means 'terrible' but it will hold back the rest of the machine.

Memory is ok. It'd only cost another 50 for another 512mb of ram - 1.5Gb is plenty sufficient for most 'normal' day to day tasks and playing games.

highdef

I have the outgoing model which appears to be the same except for having a 1.86 processor instead of a 2.13 in the new sale. As for RAM, I dont think there are any more free slots available. I took the lid off my PC tonight and it seems that there are only 2 RAM slots in total, both of which are currently used by the 512MB sticks. So an upgrade would entail buying new sticks of RAM



Would it be easy enough to put on a more powerful processor onto the current motherboard?

belmulletman

is the current model you have (pictured above) quiet?
like how quiet is it? i know the graphics card has passive cooling, but the system fans/processor fan, how loud would you rate them?

highdef

The system fans and processor fans are almost silent. IN fact, I think the processor is cooled with a heat sink - there are copper pipes running outside the big metal block on top of it. PC really is almost silent. The hard drive is the only discernible noise from it.

Dopey

Only two RAM slots? :eek: