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trouble with Short stacks

  • 16-03-2007 11:29am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭


    Having issues with people who buy in short circa 20BBs
    Couple of hands that seem to happen 20 times a night and they are I think throwing me of my game slightly
    initially i thought Ipoker was not as prevalent for this Short buy in stuff as tribeca but 1 week in i find 1-2 of these players on my 6 Max tables every session and also I think in playing them I am leaking info to the players who actually have chips

    playing .5-1
    couple of scenarios again while these are actual hands I am thinking more of the scenario's assume I cover table in each instance


    S1 Under pair
    1 limper utg
    I raise in MP to 4BBs with 99
    get 2 callers
    player UTG stack 100
    and player 2 the SB Stack 14
    pot 13
    Flop Txx rainbow
    Checked to me I bet 8 SS moves all in UTG folds

    S2 Over Cards
    3 limpers
    I raise in CO to 5 with AQs
    BB calls stack 100+
    1 SS limper calls stack 12
    rest fold
    Pot 18
    Flop 852
    SS open pushs
    ?

    S3 Odds to call
    2 limpers I make it 4 on Button with KQ
    SS BB pushs all in to 10 folded to me

    ?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,764 ✭✭✭DeadParrot


    well, imo they are pretty much all calls.
    I dont mind doubling up an extreme shorty like this as they give it back quick enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    DeadParrot wrote:
    well, imo they are pretty much all calls.
    I dont mind doubling up an extreme shorty like this as they give it back quick enough

    There is no doubt they give it back but i am only 5-1 to be on the recieving end of there chip dump :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    LuckyLloyd wrote:
    I call in all of these situations. It sucks that you leak info, but if you lose the hand at showdown it won't be displayed unlike with Tribecca. If you win the hand then, meh - just adjust to what info has been disclosed if neccesary. .

    Unless other players know to look in the handy hand history button (i know i do every time any money has gone in )
    LuckyLloyd wrote:

    Busting sjortstacks by outdrawing them with my overcards on the turn or river is particularly pleasant. They could create a much bigger problem for us all if they were any good, but the standard of shortstacked play and the hand ranges they use at .50 / 1 are really awful.

    .
    Agreed I guess I am just losing to many of these for my own comfort at the moment

    LuckyLloyd wrote:

    - They call way too much preflop only to dump on infavourable flops
    - They flatcall raises for up to 50% of their stack sometimes only to dump on the flop :confused:
    - They move in too often after flopping any pair when they are so obviously beaten
    - They standard raise to 3 / 4bb from all positions even when playing off 10 - 15 bb stacks
    - They have no patience to actually wait for a good spot


    I think they are actually easy money to be honest.

    i hear you i see same player start with 20 get down to 10 limp calling and folding to somebody else but I always and i mean always double them through :mad:

    Just this isnt 1 bad evening its i suppose a bad week for this kind os stuff and I am wondering has anybody got an alternative strategy here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    I love having short stacks at my table, so easy to play and usually so useless.
    Lloyd summed it up nicely of why. The more the merrier as far as I am concearned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    give me some deepstacked fish over a ss any day plz!

    1 is enough, fair enough they're donators, but they upset the dynamics of the game. and they have less money to lose...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    give me some deepstacked fish over a ss any day plz!

    1 is enough, fair enough they're donators, but they upset the dynamics of the game. and they have less money to lose...

    Big time

    Plus to take a SS's money you need to go to Showdown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    give me some deepstacked fish over a ss any day plz!

    1 is enough, fair enough they're donators, but they upset the dynamics of the game. and they have less money to lose...

    Indubitably.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭AmarilloFats


    give me some deepstacked fish over a ss any day plz!

    1 is enough, fair enough they're donators, but they upset the dynamics of the game. and they have less money to lose...

    Amen Sister.


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