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Drive a new Deauville from Italy to Dublin

  • 11-03-2007 2:16pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,643 ✭✭✭


    Im wondering how much $ I would save?

    Anyone any experience doing this.

    > Im looking to see Italy as well so not interested in UK.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    I'd love to do a drive like that. It would be a great experience.

    As for what you are planning to buy, have you checked to see if they actually sell Honda's never mind duvilles in Italy? :D

    I don't know how much you would save, but I reckon it could be worthwhile anyway.

    L.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Do it, it would be an excellent trip. Make sure you are well organised, your insurance covers you and you have international breakdown assist.

    You will often hear people called the deauville a dullsville or whatever, but its an extremely reliable machine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    The only bikes to drive from Italy on are Ducatis are Laverdas!

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    esel wrote:
    The only bikes to drive from Italy on are Ducatis are Laverdas!

    I wish to extend that list by one to Aprilia.

    Sorry, was looking at Tuono's yesterday...

    L.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,643 ✭✭✭worded


    Its looking like the do Deauvilles in Italy.
    Click Novità 2007 on the Nav bar.
    The petrol blue looks well cool.
    http://www.hondaitalia.com/moto/default.html

    None of the dealers have emails to determine price.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    erm, I am open to correction on this, but I was under the impression that it was not worthwhile buying a NEW bike abroad, because the Revenue calculate the VRT based on its "new" value here, so you end up saving at best 0.

    Second hand, will be better, because the VRT rate reduces as the market value drops.

    Worth checking out before you commit.

    <edit> I see now that you did say new in the title, but I thought you meant a new bike to you rather than completely new.</edit>

    L.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭Popeleo


    I thought that unlike cars, the VRT on new bikes was solely based on the engine cc and not the bike value - 2 euro per cc for the first 350cc, and 1 euro thereafter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    Popeleo wrote:
    I thought that unlike cars, the VRT on new bikes was solely based on the engine cc and not the bike value - 2 euro per cc for the first 350cc, and 1 euro thereafter.

    That is correct, but it is that figure minus a discount for every year old that the bike is.

    Hence, you pay the full VRT amount on the new bike, but x% less for a 1 year old etc.
    revenue.ie wrote:
    Motorcycles.

    Examples include motorcycles, scooters, certain All Terrain Vehicles (ATV).

    VRT is charged by reference to the cubic capacity i.e. cubic centimetres (cc) of the engine. The current rates are €2 in respect of each cc up to 350 and €1 for each cc thereafter. The total amount is then reduced by prescribed percentages to take account of the age of the vehicle.

    L.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Persius


    If you buy a NEW bike abroad in the EU, you'll have to pay VAT as well as VRT. Most other european countries only let you get the local VAT back there if you're exporting outside the EU. So it's really not worth it.
    A bike is considered second hand if it is over 6 months old AND has over 6000 km on the clock.
    Do a search on revenue.ie for VRT and you'll find all the info.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,583 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    We really do get shafted by the revenue on this one


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Bradidup


    esel wrote:
    The only bikes to drive from Italy on are Ducatis are Laverdas!

    What about Binelli, Motoguzzi, Cagiva, Morini, Bimoto, MV Agusta?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Fair enough on the MV Agusta - would you ride it or put in a glass case though?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Bradidup


    esel wrote:
    Fair enough on the MV Agusta - would you ride it or put in a glass case though?
    Neither.......I dont think I could even afford the glass case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭rgfuller


    Would you also have to limit speed/throttle for the first 500km to let the engine/components bed in smoothly ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    bddt, as they say, with regard to a new bike ex-Germany. It's not worth it, it'd be no more expensive, here. It's the VAT that'll clobber you.

    Oh, and your bike would also have the 'wrong' headlight, i.e. blinding everyone on the 'dip' as it'd be pointed the wrong way. You'd also find dealers here remarkably un-cooperative with regard to warranty on an import........

    A used bike is a different proposition entirely, but not new, imho.......

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,550 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    esel wrote:
    Fair enough on the MV Agusta - would you ride it or put in a glass case though?
    I would keep it in my bedroom, and move my wife into the garage..

    <ducks and hopes wife does not read post>


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    I brought a Deauville in from the UK back in January,let me no if you have any questions.


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