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Laptop used as a desktop possible battery damage?

  • 10-03-2007 7:33pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭


    Is it safe to use a laptop constantly on AC power with the battery attached. Will it cause any harm in the long run?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭Oman


    i do it all the time and mines fine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    The battery will eventually burn out, in much the same way as if you leave a mobile phone constantly plugged in.

    I know, it happened to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Should I simply remove the battery so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,957 ✭✭✭trout


    Bond-007 wrote:
    Should I simply remove the battery so?

    from my own experience of an IT team with 30+ laptops, i believe removing the battery when on AC power has a modest impact on the useful life

    thing is ... all rechargeable batteries degrade over time ... the lifetime of the battery is impacted by the pattern of usage, but they still all degrade over time

    so ... you could remove the battery, but i doubt you'll extend the useful life of the battery or laptop by a significant amount. myself, i wouldn't bother.

    out of interest ... why would you have a laptop permanently connected to AC power ? would a desktop not be cheaper and more durable ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭wingnut


    trout wrote:
    out of interest ... why would you have a laptop permanently connected to AC power ? would a desktop not be cheaper and more durable ?

    I hardly ever use my laptop on battery. I need to bring it around between work/home etc but there is always a plug! I wouldn't fancy carrying a desktop around like that.

    AFAIK it makes no difference to the battery life at all. The battery degrades over time and has a finite amount of times you can charge / recharge it. You would probably do more damage taking the battery in and out all the time. A battery will rarely last beyond 3 years or so.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Thanks for your all your help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Battery charging electronics have a cut-off for when the battery is full hence on constant full power there will be no charge/discharge cycle to adversely affect the battery. As other posters mentioned, batteries do have a limited lifetime in any case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭SouperComputer


    Keeping them at full charge is bad. If they get too warm thats also bad. Lastly, running them to the ground is also bad for modern cells. Basically any extremes in temperature or charge for prolonged periods will reduce the life of the battery.

    If you are removing it charge it to 40% and store it in a cool, dry place just like a packet of crisps :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,957 ✭✭✭trout


    Keeping them at full charge is bad. If they get too warm thats also bad. Lastly, running them to the ground is also bad for modern cells. Basically any extremes in temperature or charge for prolonged periods will reduce the life of the battery.

    If you are removing it charge it to 40% and store it in a cool, dry place just like a packet of crisps :)

    and remember folks ... whatever you do ... don't leave a laptop in the boot of your car over christmas ... cold really fcuks up your battery :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭SouperComputer


    trout wrote:
    and remember folks ... whatever you do ... don't leave a laptop in the boot of your car over christmas ... cold really fcuks up your battery :eek:


    Unless you have a Panasonic Toughbook (rugged type). Left mine in the boot over here for about a month with temps getting as low as -34C and it powered on 1st time.

    But yea, generally extremes of temperature are bad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,957 ✭✭✭trout


    Unless you have a Panasonic Toughbook (rugged type). Left mine in the boot over here for about a month with temps getting as low as -34C and it powered on 1st time.

    But yea, generally extremes of temperature are bad.


    -34 C ... damn ... that is tough ...


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