What song shall we cover for our March project (poll)

frobisher

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Okay, we could spend the month throwing around song ideas. Let's do a poll on what has already been suggested already below. If you think you have the perfect song and it's not on the list....tough! Too late!

Judas101: I know you mentioned a few Joy Division songs there but I've just picked Love will Tear Us Apart as being the most translatable to different genres, if you know what I mean. For the Nirvana song I've done the same.

squibs

How about taking a well known song and covering it in a different genre? Just heard that French band on the radio doing their folksy version of Teenage Kicks. It should be a simple song, and you could even cross genres. Select a tempo, and go from there.

I suggest a cover of Aslan - This is.

And as usual I'll probably be too busy to actually contribute

frobisher

squibs wrote:

I suggest a cover of Aslan - This is.

And as usual I'll probably be too busy to actually contribute

I don't think I know that song but I'll check it out. Sounds pretty interesting to me!!

TelePaul

squibs wrote:

How about taking a well known song and covering it in a different genre? Just heard that French band on the radio doing their folksy version of Teenage Kicks. It should be a simple song, and you could even cross genres. Select a tempo, and go from there.

I suggest a cover of Aslan - This is.

And as usual I'll probably be too busy to actually contribute

Did you hear Nouvelle Vague?? They rock.

squibs

@Telepaul - that's the band that were on the radio this morning covering Teenage Kicks.

@Frobisher - I'd be surprised if you didn't know that song. It's Aslans biggest song. I suggested it because it was popular and easy chords. Maybe we should pick a different song?

judas101

i'd be interested in doing this.



maybe not said aslan song tho

frobisher

I'm into this. If anyone has a suggestion for other songs feel free to throw them out and we can all decide on one in the next few days. I have to say that I think Teenage Kicks as mentioned above could be pretty perfect song for it. It couldn't be simpler but it's strong enough to be adaptaple. Any thoughts?

TelePaul

I have a terrible habit of lounging up Love Will Tear Us Apart. I think we should pick an easy enough song. For some reaosn Nirvana springs to mind...I dunno, I'll definetely contribute this time though.

judas101

yeah a joy division tune could be could. not difficult technically and theres scope for messing around with.

transmission and she's lost control spring to mind immediately for me

TelePaul

judas101 wrote:

yeah a joy division tune could be could. not difficult technically and theres scope for messing around with.

transmission and she's lost control spring to mind immediately for me

We'd need a good bassist. Hook is the man!

judas101

any other ideas?

frobisher

Okay, we could spend the month throwing around song ideas. Let's do a poll on what has already been suggested already. If you think you have the perfect song and it's not on the list....tough! Too late!

Judas101: I know you mentioned a few Joy Division songs there but I've just picked Love will Tear Us Apart as being the most translatable to different genres, if you know what I mean. For the Nirvana song I've done the same.

judas101

right, i went for love will tear us apart but reckon it'd be a tricky one to do anything original with.

i'll have a shot tho!

red_ice

joy division...

everything else is just pants.

well, not pants, just for doing a cover of it.. i rekon the other songs have been rinced, a joy div cover should go down nicely, especially something thats a good bit off the origional version

copacetic

i think out of those four joy division is 3 streets ahead, no contest really. don't do the ian curtis voice though..

TelePaul

Ian Curtis = me + Antares Autotune 5 Worst sound ever!

TelePaul

This is gonna be fun guys!

frobisher

Well it looks like we have a winner...

A couple of points:
* Have fun with it. Even if you think you could do better or it isn't good enough or sumfink, don't worry about it. Just post it, by getting CONSTRUCTIVE (!!) feedback from each other we'll all learn and get better.
* I'll set up a page that features some samples of our monthly projects as time goes on. Probably as part of the boards Biki, although I might do an external page hosting songs and links to our boards profiles and the recording forum. But this will take contributions so please get the music in!!

..... Love Will Tear Us Apart by Joy Division. 1.......2......3.......GO!!!

frobisher

Niall - Dahlia wrote:

I can host some stuff if needs be frobisher, give me a PM if you want FTP details.

Nice one Niall. Will keep it in mind.

TelePaul

Should we decide on a tempo? What BPM?

frobisher

TelePaul wrote:

Should we decide on a tempo? What BPM?

I was thinking about that. Considering that we haven't planned on joining up our mixes or individual parts (we haven't, have we?!) I think that tempo and BPM is too big a creative area to give up.

What do others think?

judas101

If everyone is doing there own thing with it it'd be stupid to have a fixed bmp right?

TelePaul

Oh sorry I thought this would be a collaborative thing, didn't think we were doing it solo my bad. Okay I'm done:

http://glasshouserecordings.bebo.com

Okay I didn't do that just now, that was about 3 years back on Cubasis VST (shudders) 16 bit, 8 tracks, no midi! It's bollox I know, but it reminded me of how far I've come.

TelePaul

Niall - Dahlia wrote:

Ahh Hungerstrike, love that song.

I'm a bit confused myself...I thought we'd be all doing our own thing? Or is it pass the musical parcel?

yeah it's a cool tune. Uhmm I don't think it's collaborative, everyone for themselves.

Giblet

Should try something collaborative for the laugh! I'd have a bash of hungerstrike with some others.

fuse

Nice one,
gonna start working on a version of this, just getting to grips with cubase & vst's, will be good practice for me!

Giblet

I'm doing a straight cover, here's what I have so far /

http://www.it-netsoc.ie/~pconnolly/love.mp3

I've only really started recording about 10 days ago so be gentle

All done with GT-8 + Midi (Bass done with guitar through octave pedal)

TelePaul

Giblet wrote:

I'm doing a straight cover, here's what I have so far /

http://www.it-netsoc.ie/~pconnolly/love.mp3

I've only really started recording about 10 days ago so be gentle

All done with GT-8 + Midi (Bass done with guitar through octave pedal)

Links broken....but this is something I really wanna hear!! Love hearing peoples early recordings! You're not in UCD no?

Giblet

Link works for me?

I'm in Tallaght

Here's another link just in case

http://www.sleevesmahoney.com/love.mp3

squibs

Very good Giblet
Loved the bass and keys. Thought the drums needed a bit of work though. They're too much 'in the pocket', sound a bit synthetic and the hats are too loud. If you can improve on them, you've got it nailed. Now who can do a good Ian Curtis impersonation? Or you could just sing it straight and drop an octave with a pitch shifter

Giblet

I've updated the drums now :>

Giblet

Ok full version up, the song is a bit boring though, would love to hear someone sing over it though!!!

squibs

Very nice Giblet - a couple of things:
The high register strings seem a litle loud at times, maybe wait and see how it sounds when the vocals go in.
And (being completely an*l here) sometimes there are 16s going on the hats while there's a bit of a snare roll. A real two armed drummer couldn't play that.

Any chance you'd give us a rundown on the host, synths and f/x used on this? For somebody who just got started on recording, it's incredible.

Giblet

Haha, yeah you are right about the hi-hats alright, I was going to lift it for each snare but I was too lazy. The synth does get a bit high alright, that's layering over the octave above, and increasing the velocity each time. I could put a slight fade down on it.

O.K I'll go through each step (with more detail than required)

Ableton Live 6 used for everything and I have an EMU1212M with a GT-8 connected digitally

The main guitar is done on the GT-8 (default patch 68-1) Strat middle pickup, light compression and Stereo EQ to fill it out a little.

The high stabbing guitar at the start is the GT-8 acoustic effect with the bridge pickup for clarity, and some compression again (My least favourite part, would have preferred acoustic).

Bass is GT-8 again (82-4 fretless octave) and is just straight using neck pickup, no other effects. This effect is pretty useless for most things, but does well on Hook type bass lines as you you play fast and don't need much low end.

Drums done using Impulse (Ellington). Basically I recorded a straight beat (as heard in the earlier recording) and added in on the fly (or just looped a section while figuring it out). Added some reverb, not too wet and messed with the decay on the snare and tightened up the bass attack and panned the hats and snare to l/r respectively

The synth was just the cheapest sounding one I could find with single note lead (some doubling up later to match the real song, even though it's just audible)
Settings:



The end is changed slightly to match the faint guitar heard in the real version, I just brought that melody forward and changed the bass to relieve boredom

So yeah, you could easily copy this exactly using a GT-8 and having your levels sorted.

Slaanesh

To be honest Paul, I think that sounds really ****ing good. I'm well impressed.

Giblet

Thanks Ronan

Giblet

Please don't laugh, just a quick guide track I did, the finished one will be more polished.

http://www.sleevesmahoney.com/awyeah.mp3

hehe

*Tripper*

I'm gonna jump on the band wagon and see what happens! Wish me luck!

Slaanesh

Guide track!?

Resists splurging on keyboard with laughter ... hehe.

judas101

right, i'm pretty much finished mt attempt now (a bit late i know)

i lash it up somewhere in the next day or two and let ye all know.

i went in a slightly different direction!

frobisher

I've been up to my eyes recording other stuff. Will try and get something done over the weekend. How are otehrs getting on?

*Tripper*

Right well I just haven't had the time to do it yet but i was thinking of doing a country acustic version for the laugh, should be up soon!