Hand from Jackpot donkfest

cooker3

Down to 13 players overall to so my table is 7 handed.
Blinds are 200-400
I have 5300 and my opponant has 5200 so basically even.

It's folded around to my opponant who is on the button who pushes all in.
Reads on him, well he seems new to poker, he didn't understand what was happening when we chip raced. He hasn't done much at the table that I can recall.
I think he can have any 2 because I would do this with any 2 (well I would raise with any 2, not push with that big a stack), first off from description above which is all I know would people agree with my thought process?

Anyway I am on the sb and look down at A7o, against that range I think I am good and call.
Someone else said to me on discussion of the hand that even assuming my read is correct I am still probably best waiting for a better spot and I shouldn't call of my chips like this.
Agree or disagree?

Bandara

"I think he can have any 2 because I would do this with any 2 (well I would raise with any 2, not push with that big a stack), first off from description above which is all I know would people agree with my thought process?"


Cooker,

If he is new to the game and only learning I'd imagine his does not yet have a structured though process, I'd be of the opinion he is really only playing his own cards and not thinking out the effect his all-in action is going to create in your mind.

Anyways for me its a fold for sure, he's easily sitting with a middle pp or 2 broadway cards and by calling you throw your edge out the window.

just my two cents

LuckyLloyd

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HalfBaked

LuckyLloyd wrote:

If it's folded to me on the button and I go aween with 13 BBs a call from you while holding Q7o would be correct.

Insta call!

Hitman Actual

Even against a fairly loose range I'd expect A7o to be coin-flip. Against a tight range you're in trouble. Plus the fact that he's a new player makes it much less likely to be any two, tbh. Only players who know what they are doing would stick it in here with any two; newbies would be much more cautious I think.

smoothcall

awful call, your hand is so weak. even against any two cards your never that far ahead, plus the BB behind who could wake up to a hand.

Usually players who are learning the game dont think about position etc they think about i have a good hand im all in, your better waitin for a better hand. and you never wanna call off your chips with A7

cooker3

Hammertime wrote:

Anyways for me its a fold for sure, he's easily sitting with a middle pp or 2 broadway cards and by calling you throw your edge out the window.

If he has 2 broadway cards enough then calling here is good surely?

Bandara

cooker3 wrote:

If he has 2 broadway cards enough then calling here is good surely?

it is if you consider that your about 5% ahead.......

phantom_lord

should a fold. he's not pushing any 2 here, and I'd imagine you're not good against his range at all.

phantom_lord

Hammertime wrote:

it is if you consider that your about 5% ahead.......

	equity 	win 	tie 	      pots won 	pots tied	
Hand 0: 	57.207%  	57.00% 	00.21% 	        975957 	     3598.50   { Ac7d }
Hand 1: 	42.793%  	42.58% 	00.21% 	        729150 	     3598.50   { KhQd }

Bandara

congrats


pedant award of the year

FungiWalsh

Definite fold for me. Like most have said, for a really new player, they're just thinking about their own hand, rarely about the action before him. They'll see a good hand, see that most people have more chips (I assume? Seeing as it was 13BBs), and go all-in. I doubt shoving any two on the button to steal the blinds would have been taken into consideration by him. And with A7, there aren't many hands you're in good shape against, the best you can hope for really is a 60/40, or maybe, if you're lucky, a race against a small pair.

phantom_lord

do i get bonus points for doing it off the top of my head??

cooker3

FungiWalsh wrote:

Definite fold for me. Like most have said, for a really new player, they're just thinking about their own hand, rarely about the action before him. They'll see a good hand, see that most people have more chips (I assume? Seeing as it was 13BBs), and go all-in. I doubt shoving any two on the button to steal the blinds would have been taken into consideration by him. And with A7, there aren't many hands you're in good shape against, the best you can hope for really is a 60/40, or maybe, if you're lucky, a race against a small pair.

I will take 60/40 all day long and I thought/hoped that it would be 60/40 a fair amount of the time.

FungiWalsh

cooker3 wrote:

I will take 60/40 all day long and I thought/hoped that it would be 60/40 a fair amount of the time.

That's fair enough, but against a new player, it won't be a 60/40 nearly enough times to justify a call. Like I said, a 60/40 was realistically the best you could hope for, meaning it'd be optimistic to expect one. If a player like that open shoves, he's going to have a bigger ace or a pair too often to justify a call. You can pick your spots to double-up better than to call of all your chips A7 (hypocritical coming from the man who called off 60% of his 100k stack with A9 at the student champs, I know, but I had a solid read on him! ). The only hand you're in great shape against is a smaller ace, and you'll almost never see that here.