Donaghmede - too far out?

G86

Ok finally found a lovely place,first let in Beau Park Donaghmede. The thing is it seems a bit far out..and there doesnt seem to be much there only a shopping centre.

I work in Ballsbridge and can get the dart but its a 25 min walk from the apt, theres a new dart station openin beside the complex but not for 6mths. Theres a feeder bus to the dart but only at certain times.

Anyone knw if theres a cinema or gud pub/nite club nearby? seems a wile shame not to take it....but the location is important too.

Any advice or knowledge would really be appreciated!!

thanks

KTRIC

G86 wrote:

Ok finally found a lovely place,first let in Beau Park Donaghmede. The thing is it seems a bit far out..and there doesnt seem to be much there only a shopping centre.

I work in Ballsbridge and can get the dart but its a 25 min walk from the apt, theres a new dart station openin beside the complex but not for 6mths. Theres a feeder bus to the dart but only at certain times.

Anyone knw if theres a cinema or gud pub/nite club nearby? seems a wile shame not to take it....but the location is important too.

Any advice or knowledge would really be appreciated!!

thanks

I was going to be sarcastic and write something witty, but that wouldn't be fair.

I take it you're not from Dublin, you wouldn't be considering Donaghmede if you were. I grew up beside it and to be honest its a miserable place.

You could do a lot better.

zuutroy

KTRIC wrote:

I was going to be sarcastic and write something witty, but that wouldn't be fair.

I take it you're not from Dublin, you wouldn't be considering Donaghmede if you were. I grew up beside it and to be honest its a miserable place.

You could do a lot better.

Ah come on now...I heard Donaghmede shopping centre finished a close 2nd to Disneyland in the 'happiest place on earth' competition.

Thomas_S_Hunterson

KTRIC wrote:

I was going to be sarcastic and write something witty, but that wouldn't be fair.

I take it you're not from Dublin, you wouldn't be considering Donaghmede if you were. I grew up beside it and to be honest its a miserable place.

You could do a lot better.

/me nods cautiously in agreement

markpb

KTRIC wrote:

I grew up beside it and to be honest its a miserable place.

The same is true of most of Dublin's suburbs. Sleepy.

G86

oh crap..i was hoping there was some brillant part of it id missed!!!! see the apt is only a grand a month....

Is it really that bad...

Supercell

Only a grand a month?

I'm renting a beautiful 2 bed duplex in the Wicklow mountains which is 35 mins from work in Dublin by car for 700 euro a month.

Thats your walk plus a ten minute Dart ride assuming a train pulls up the second you arrive at the station..

There are other options.

Victor

Moved to Commuting & Transport from Accommodation.

G86 wrote:

I work in Ballsbridge and can get the dart but its a 25 min walk from the apt, theres a new dart station openin beside the complex but not for 6mths. Theres a feeder bus to the dart but only at certain times

I would wonder about the 6 months.

G86 wrote:

Anyone knw if theres a cinema or gud pub/nite club nearby?

UCI Coolock. Don't know about pubs & clubs.

G86

The thing is I want to be near enough to town for goin out at nite and not payin a fortune to get home, plus most of my friends in town. Im in harolds cross now but v.old apts.

1000 is really cheap..all the half decent apts ive seen from D16 in have been 1100 plus, an evn at 1100 alot of them are dodgy lookin

I think the main reason i want it is because we havent been offered any of the other places we viewed( i think my age is going against me although i work full time and have all required refs)im 21. My boyfs 28.

So i guess its nice to actually have somewhere but now im thinking id be better waiting.

patrickmooney

There isn't really any pubs/clubs. For that you'd need to head out to howth/raheny or malahide. I live there, it's home, but I don't socialise locally.

G86

Well have decided not to go with it..too awkward..an so the search continues.............:( thanks for all your help

GallicProphet

Donaghmede is fine.

Donaghmede shopping center is convenient, lots of nice shops, also close enough to city centre, to Tesco Clarehall, UCI Cinemas, to the airport and to howth / malahide... prices are very reasonable compared to similar distance to city centre in west and south of city.

Having said that, not so convenient for Ballsbridge though.

Also you probably wont want to let your Ballsbridge types know you live there, as they might sneer.

Red Hand

If you aren't from Dublin and not used to living in the suburbs, then yes, Donaghmede is pretty far out from the city centre, and Ballsbridge. At least I felt the same after moving there.

The only good thing about living there is how cheap the rent is compared to other areas in Dublin, plus it isn't that rough a place to live in.

KTRIC

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote:

plus it isn't that rough a place to live in.

You don't know Donaghmede too well do you ???

St.Donaghs, Swans Nest and the area around Howth Junction to name but a few are probably some of the roughest places's on the Northside.

Zebra3

KTRIC wrote:

You don't know Donaghmede too well do you ???

St.Donaghs, Swans Nest and the area around Howth Junction to name but a few are probably some of the roughest places's on the Northside.

Far from it.

A lot quieter than they used to be.

It's not a bad place. Not far from the city centre (relative to the rest of the sprawl). Good pubs in Raheny, Malahide, Portmarnock and Howth. Close to airport (and the beach for the summer!). Close to UCI Coolock.

And close to Tolka Park.

However no shortage of Celtic jerseys around which will usually be seen as a reflection of how dodgy an area is...

is_that_so

Donaghmede is Ok but like all ares it as its rough bist as posted.
Celtic jerseys are ubiquitous everywhere and that's hardly fair. :rolleyes:
Not that it matters now , but by the sounds of where the OP wanted to live , he was talking about Capital North/Clongriffin, or whatever they call it these days.
No shops yet AFAIK , definitely no pub and a veritable warren of development and a good hike to the DART/bus.

ThatBloke

KTRIC wrote:

You don't know Donaghmede too well do you ???

St.Donaghs, Swans Nest and the area around Howth Junction to name but a few are probably some of the roughest places's on the Northside.

You can't be for real. Besides, Swans Nest is in Kilbarrack!

There aren't really any pubs in Donaghmede you'd want to drink in, the Donaghmede Inn is a bit of a kip, most people would go out to Swords, Malahide or Howth for a night out.

A taxi home from town will cost you about €15.

Victor

Swans Nest was demolished about 5 years ago.

dools

TBH, you'd be better off checking out Artane, Raheny, Killester or Clontarf. They're prob slighly more expensive but have way more amenities and nearer to town

Kashkai

I spent 20 years growing up in the 'mede and couldn't wait to get out of it. I'm back at the moment (temporarily) while my house is getting built and its great fun (not) watching the local scumbags doing doughnuts in the shopping centre car park before the little scangers set the stolen car on fire.

As for Clongriffen, what a kip. A maze of toytown houses on top of each other with no bloody privacy.

Move out to the sticks and displace the culchies:D

bibibobo

KTRIC wrote:

You don't know Donaghmede too well do you ???

St.Donaghs, Swans Nest and the area around Howth Junction to name but a few are probably some of the roughest places's on the Northside.

Your a snob.
Swans nest is not in Donaghmede. Around Howth junction is not that bad; it is only St. Donaghs estate which is a very small little enclave that brings Donaghmede down. I should know i live beside it and for your information I'm not a skobie or the likes of what snobs like you would presume people who live here to be.

spurious

All areas go in cycles. In the '70s St. Anne's estate was rough as a badger's backside, now it's full of oul' ones, the 'lads' from the 70s now Dads and Grandads themselves. It's life.

That said Donaghmede is close to the sea, public transport, the north county Dublin green belt, many excellent schools and a number of shopping centres. Yes, it's low on nightlife, but that isn't the end of the world. It's a long way from Ballsbridge though and by the sounds of the OP's lifestyle a closeness to work and town is important.

I realise the OP has moved on elsewhere, but there is nothing wrong with Donaghmede as a place to live. Many people's budgets will not even extend to Donaghmede and this stupid snobbery from people who drove through the area once, or played a match there 30 years ago is ridiculous.

donaghs

I can give you an honest opinion on Donaghmede. I'm a southsider myself. Better get that out of the way first - never had a problem with either side of the Liffey, most people making an issue out it tend to be middle class Northsiders trying to seem "hard". I'm now living in at the edge of Kilbarrack around Briarfield. What some of the locals call Raheny. I've been there over a year and have never had any serious issues. Same with Donaghmede. There's Tesco's in Kilbarrack but I often walk (or drive if its a big shop) up to Dunnes in Donaghmede because its a great shopping centre. I walk through St. Donaghs and Carndonagh and Newbrook and they're are not bad areas. The worst part of the area is Swan's Nest (which is in Kilbarrack), but even still I've never had any trouble and its a tiny area that borders on middle class Raheny.

I admit you'll immediatley notice its different from Ballsbridge or Ranelagh, but can you afford to live there?

Also, I think the place you are describing is closer to Baldoyle, which is a nice sea-side village.

Donaghmede and Kilbarrack are great because they are on the Dart line. If socializing in town is that important to you though you will want to re-consider. They are far-out and apart from taxis, the Nightlink is the only way of getting home (passes Raheny, Kilbarrack, Donaghmede and Baldoyle).

Since you're still renting, and socializing in town is a priority, and you can afford to live in Ranelagh or Ballsbridge, then stay there.

KTRIC

bibibobo wrote:

Your a snob.
Swans nest is not in Donaghmede. Around Howth junction is not that bad; it is only St. Donaghs estate which is a very small little enclave that brings Donaghmede down. I should know i live beside it and for your information I'm not a skobie or the likes of what snobs like you would presume people who live here to be.

I spent the best part of 20 years in that area and like Prosperous Dave I couldn't wait to get out.

branners69

Prosperous Dave wrote:

...before the little scangers set the stolen car on fire...

I walk through the Car Park in Dunnes nearly everyday and am yet to see a burnt out car! Doin thats nearly 2 years now, I know the 'mede had its day but most scum is living down the bog now so you can watch them burning cars in your field when you turn into a blow in muck savage!

Lets face it people only live down the bog cos they cant afford to live somewhere decent, especially those who commute 3 or so hours a day!

Victor

Play nice!!

pork99

Prosperous Dave wrote: »

I spent 20 years growing up in the 'mede and couldn't wait to get out of it. I'm back at the moment (temporarily) while my house is getting built and its great fun (not) watching the local scumbags doing doughnuts in the shopping centre car park before the little scangers set the stolen car on fire.

As for Clongriffen, what a kip. A maze of toytown houses on top of each other with no bloody privacy.

Was out in Clongriffen today. I felt like I was on the set of some dystopian film from the 60s or 70s like Fahrenheit 451 or Clockwork Orange. The photos here bear this out;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clongriffin

Compare them to the photos on the official website

http://www.clongriffin.ie/

If it turns out as proposed it will be very nice but I'm a bit skeptical. It seems to be one of the rapidly growing band of ghost towns resulting from the current "soft landing" :rolleyes: in the property market. I have a gut feeling that it will be left semi-finished and within a few years will have a lively reputation for being a centre for stabbings and assorted thievery.

noodler

In Raheny. Taxi from town is 13 euro and Dona is a 10 minut walk from where I live. Clare Hall is also close by if drive. Considering you can dart there from Ballsbidge I would have thought it was ideal.

Maldini2706

pork99 wrote: »

Was out in Clongriffen today. I felt like I was on the set of some dystopian film from the 60s or 70s like Fahrenheit 451 or Clockwork Orange. The photos here bear this out;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clongriffin

Compare them to the photos on the official website

http://www.clongriffin.ie/

If it turns out as proposed it will be very nice but I'm a bit skeptical. It seems to be one of the rapidly growing band of ghost towns resulting from the current "soft landing" :rolleyes: in the property market. I have a gut feeling that it will be left semi-finished and within a few years will have a lively reputation for being a centre for stabbings and assorted thievery.

No doubt, it's just AWFUL planning, how they got it passes I'll never know. All the new estates down there are basically a plantation of nearly 50,000 people into an area already badly served by services, and to top this all off they STILL won't give the area a police station, it's ridiculous.

Kashkai

branners69 wrote: »

I walk through the Car Park in Dunnes nearly everyday and am yet to see a burnt out car! Doin thats nearly 2 years now, I know the 'mede had its day but most scum is living down the bog now so you can watch them burning cars in your field when you turn into a blow in muck savage!

Lets face it people only live down the bog cos they cant afford to live somewhere decent, especially those who commute 3 or so hours a day!

Damn I missed out on replying to this 18 months ago.....

I had just been watching the local scumbags doing donuts in the car park and then setting the car on fire when I wrote that post. I and my wife and kids were staying with my parents in Donaghmede while our house was being built down the bog in Kildare, which we are now in and I have yet to see a car burning in the field as head a ball states.

We could have spent a fortune on a 4 bed semi in a cramped estate in Malahide and thus has the "right" address, be on the DART line etc but for the same money, we built what we wanted in a lovely quiet part of the countryside thats only a 25 minute drive from Liffey Valley. Oh and it only takes me an hour to get from my house to my job each day which isn't bad IMO.

I wasn't slagging off the majority of Donaghmede residents who are the nicest, friendliest people you could meet but the area has always had a scumbag element that dragged its reputation down. Jeez the first night after I had just bought my first car, the local a$$holes tried to break into it and rob it. I ended up leaving my dog in it to stop them robbing it.

Volvoboy

I've lived in Donaghmede all my 21 years and i cant see myself settling anywhere else. Its home.


There are scaldys and little creamers everywhere, in all walks of life.

Build Bridge / Get Over.

Lillyella

I've lived most of my life in Donaghmede, in the Donaghmede estate.

Whoever said that the area around Howth Junction is one of the worst on the Northside, is seriously deluded and not well travelled either.

I think that the house prices in Donaghmede speak for themselves, if it was a total **** hole then they would be similar to Darndale prices.

Its that poxy St Donagh's estate, it brought the whole area down in the 80's, but thank god, most of the scum are dead now.

I have a lot of friends from Raheny and Clontarf who, when growing up would have been loathe to socialise in Donaghmede, but now, all live in Donaghmede.

Cars are robbed everywhere, even Foxrock. :rolleyes:

Dublin13

I've lived beside donaghmede all my life 32 years...... and i moved into donaghmede about 2 years ago... As i lived beside it and knew alot of people from there, i was very happy to move to it. its convenient to alot of places, Donaghmede shopping centre, clarehall, northside, santry, alot of buses into city centre, dart stations, few very nice pubs in pormarnock and raheny which is close by, 1 local pub in donaghmede however not mad bout it, but its grand for a local. The area is on the up and up with new growth all around it, and a very young age group moving in. There are of course a few skangers... there always are, no matter where you live, be that blackrock, kilbarrack, donaghmede or tallaght.. its everywhere,,, it just depends on who you live near. I have a friend who lived in blackrock with a pack of scum bags living right next door.... Its a fab area.. i love it.

getmeoutofhere

Moved here a good while ago and at first it was ok but now I am desperate to get out of this estate. Kids are scum bags with parents who don't care what they get up to. You complain and get roared abuse at. Not worth the hassle seriously. Can't wait to move! Has gone back to what I believe it was like in the 80s - full of drug dealers and scum and I'm seeing it all first hand.

Maldini2706

Where in Donaghmede do you live? Like everywhere some areas are worse than others.

AlekSmart

No doubt, it's just AWFUL planning, how they got it passes I'll never know.

I suspect the Developer`s standing and distinction may have had some influence on how the planning "Authorities" adjudicated on the application.

Gannon Homes.
I rest my cases :P

getmeoutofhere

Maldini2706 wrote: »

Where in Donaghmede do you live? Like everywhere some areas are worse than others.

I live on St.Donaghs Road. Nighmare. Unbelievable the amount of drug dealing on doorsteps that goes on and what annoys me most is the police are well aware of it but keep telling us they have to "bide their time". As for the kids - they are pure scum (not all of them I will say)

Maldini2706

AlekSmart wrote: »

I suspect the Developer`s standing and distinction may have had some influence on how the planning "Authorities" adjudicated on the application.

Gannon Homes.
I rest my cases :P

I wonder if he used the Golden Circle money to fund the construction

getmeoutofhere wrote: »

I live on St.Donaghs Road. Nighmare. Unbelievable the amount of drug dealing on doorsteps that goes on and what annoys me most is the police are well aware of it but keep telling us they have to "bide their time". As for the kids - they are pure scum (not all of them I will say)

Yeah, it can be a bit dodgy down there, loads of little scumbags hanging around that park.

Zippie84

G86 wrote: »

The thing is I want to be near enough to town for goin out at nite and not payin a fortune to get home,

i lived here between 06 and 07 and paid about 20 euro a time to get home from town after a night out.

the dart station i'd say should be done in 6 months, the reason i'm saying that is cos it was supposed to be done in 07 and then was advertised as was gonna be ready in 08, so if its not ready this yr its an absolute joke.


sorry but based on where ur working, i definitely wouldn't move here, you can do a hell of a lot better...

edit: sorry just realised i was responding to a 2007 post.... grr hate it when people open old threads

spacetweek

It's interesting to note that the station was supposed to open in 6 months back in 07. Still no sign. Is it true that the Balgriffin/Capital North/Stapolin/Grange Rd/flavour-of-the-month developer went bust? What's going on up there? If there's no housing activity there'll defo be no DART station until that picks up.

The area would have been good, if built as planned. As the Wiki photos show though, it's a wasteland. No shops seem to be open and you're miles out of town. Wouldn't touch w/bargepole.

Just cause it would be a joke not to have it in 2009, doesn't mean it'll happen.