shove or call

ocallagh

1/2 Effective stacks 200.

UTG limps.
Folded to Hero on Button with 99.
Raise to $8
Blinds fold
UTG Calls.

Flop (18) KT2r
Villain Checks
Hero Checks

Turn (18) 6 - completes rainbow
Villain bets 4.
Hero calls 4.

River (26) 9
Villain bets 8
Hero raises to 28
Villain min raises to 48

Hero?

Lafortezza

Can't think of many hands that will call a push that you are beating. Villain limp-called preflop so a set of 6's is possible. Is Villain good or bad? If he's good then he should fold all 2 pair hands.

BigDragon

I think min-raise is the new shove. Its the val-ya.

cardshark202

I would just call here. So many straights about.

carlop

call. there's something suspicious about the size of the bet on the turn

fixer

his turn bet is strange, can't quite figure that one out. I'd sometimes play QJs the same way in a passive game, but with a bigger turn bet.

ianmc38

You need to follow Buckloxes advice. When you're in a minraise war, be sure to get the last minraise in.

Hectorjelly

Id prefer to fold than raise again

robinlacey

funny situation
this might actually be a case where you can minraise and fold to a push

if i was in this hand it would be one of those situations where my decision is based on the stats i have on the player,if he looks loose/fishy i'm trying to get as much in as possible,if he looks tight at all i might just call

against an unknown though i'm not ruling out minraising

Hectorjelly

I dont like that at all. If he is stupid enough to make your bet 48 I dont think you can trust him to just cold call your reminraise, so you may end up folding the best hand. I think you are looking at QJ the vast majority of the time here and I think there is very little value in reopening the betting.

Gholimoli

bet the fllop,
just call now.

Solksjaer

I don't play the online cash much due to the toil involved but when I'm playing live cash (should there be a difference). Here is my read on this.

If he had Q J why would he minreraise you? You bet heavy so he should know you are good.
If he had 2 pair , what two cards would he call your initial raise with? (depend on your notes on him here)

I may be way off but , this really looks like a set of 10s. His raise of 4 was to keep you interested, I wouldn't go mad with the hand.... It really all depends on how he plays normally. Without a read I'd be fearful of a higher set...so I'd lose the min if possible. No way would I shove!

ianmc38

I couldnt imagine doing anything but calling without further info.

ocallagh

I just called... I was confused about the hand, he had 666 (good call lafortezza). I kicked myself but then decided I got inredibly lucky and most of the time it is QJ.

Gholi, my cbet% is quite high - 82% on Tribeca. Sometimes to save a little face - in smallish pots I might check this one down against a bad TAG. Not usually the way I play it, but that was my plan in this hand anyway, and sometimes you can get a small bluff out of them on the river.

valor

the flop check is good, i just call here too

Gholimoli

ocallagh wrote:

I just called... I was confused about the hand, he had 666 (good call lafortezza). I kicked myself but then decided I got inredibly lucky and most of the time it is QJ.

Gholi, my cbet% is quite high - 82% on Tribeca. Sometimes to save a little face - in smallish pots I might check this one down against a bad TAG. Not usually the way I play it, but that was my plan in this hand anyway, and sometimes you can get a small bluff out of them on the river.

i know what you are saying but i rather check here sometimes with AK or QQ,than 99 if i want to balance things out.