Getting rid of 9Million Litres of Cooking Oil :)

Altreab

Now that we have at last started to look at the problem of cooking oil been dumped down sewage drains wouldnt this be a more suitable way of dealing with a LOT of the oil?

antodeco

On mythbusters yesterday, they ran a bmw on 1 litre of used vegetable oil perfectly. there was about a 10% mpg difference (veg oil being lower). Whilst they said you could use it no problem, the long miles you get from diesel would be far superior than using veg oil!

Altreab

antodeco wrote:

On mythbusters yesterday, they ran a bmw on 1 litre of used vegetable oil perfectly. there was about a 10% mpg difference (veg oil being lower). Whilst they said you could use it no problem, the long miles you get from diesel would be far superior than using veg oil!

Considering that the Diesel engine was designed to actually run on peanut oil its not surprising the BMW ran well ...
Can you clarify "the long miles you get from diesel would be far superior than using veg oil!" ?
From what research i have done it would appear that oil actually reduces the wear and tear on an engine compared to Diesel fuel.

antodeco

Altreab wrote:

Considering that the Diesel engine was designed to actually run on peanut oil its not surprising the BMW ran well ...
Can you clarify "the long miles you get from diesel would be far superior than using veg oil!" ?
From what research i have done it would appear that oil actually reduces the wear and tear on an engine compared to Diesel fuel.

Sorry, what I meant was that the car would be quite f*cked over 100k miles running on only veg oil for its life. As you said, general wear and tear would eventually kill the engine. Obviously though if you look after it, it should be ok(ish)!

Altreab

antodeco wrote:

Sorry, what I meant was that the car would be quite f*cked over 100k miles running on only veg oil for its life. As you said, general wear and tear would eventually kill the engine. Obviously though if you look after it, it should be ok(ish)!

i wonder .... i guess we wont know for sure until we have a lot of cars burning all that waste veggie oil .......now 9 Million Litres would give us how many miles off motoring?? mmmm .. say
5Million (useable oil).....@ 15Km/L = 75 Million KM a year on "waste oil"
thats replacing a LOT of Crude oil!!!!

ninty9er

well it'd giv an excuse for people to upgrade more often if the car is goin to be fu<ked as opposed to out of fashion

Mahatma coat

the process by which you can produce a consistent reliable diesel fuel that wont fuk yer engine completley

see here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transesterification

or here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel

this stuff really works, and production is blindingly simple


Podge

Anan1

Mahatma coat wrote:

the process by which you can produce a consistent reliable diesel fuel that wont fuk yer engine completley

see here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transesterification

or here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel

this stuff really works, and production is blindingly simple


Podge

Have you read those links? They tell one about biodiesel, not how to make it. There is a link from one of the articles to a page detailing how to actually produce biodiesel:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel_production
Blindingly simple it's not.

Mahatma coat

Yeah, that ws the point of the links, that Wikki about production is unnescescarilay complicated.

hang on a minute I'll be back with something outlining the production process in english with diagrams etc, seriously once you do it you realise how easy it is.

Mahatma coat

fairly detailed




as the link says, how to make a small batch of biodiesel

http://www.biodieselcommunity.org/makingasmallbatch/

easy as mate, just try it.

stage 2 washing
http://www.biodieselcommunity.org/washingasmallbatch/
easy as that mate,

I'm off now to find some photos of the PNG production unit, or something that looks kinda like it even......


.......Bugger, they're on me home PC so I'll lob em up tonight


Podge

Altreab

Mahatma coat wrote:

fairly detailed




as the link says, how to make a small batch of biodiesel

http://www.biodieselcommunity.org/makingasmallbatch/

easy as mate, just try it.

stage 2 washing
http://www.biodieselcommunity.org/washingasmallbatch/
easy as that mate,

I'm off now to find some photos of the PNG production unit, or something that looks kinda like it even......


.......Bugger, they're on me home PC so I'll lob em up tonight


Podge

Producing biodiesel from old oil is a long complicated and dirty process. Quiet a lot of chemicals used in the process to remove fats ect.

What in talking about is actually just filtering the oil and burning it instead of actual diesel fuel. Check out the grease car FAQ at www.greasecar.com
Its all food for thought on how we can have alternative fuels from stuff we just throw away at the moment

This will kill a common rail diesel pretty quick without modification.

peasant

Its all food for thought on how we can have alternative fuels from stuff we just throw away at the moment

The pure vegetable oil "diesel" engine was first unveiled to the public in 1977.
A few years later is was further developed to run on filtered, used cooking oil.

I actually remember the feature about it on a TV show and how the presenter said that we would all be driving this tomorrow.

Vested interests in the motor and petrochemcals industrie had other ideas, though and deliberatley kept this technology out of the European markets.

http://www.elsbett.com/engl/index.htm

Altreab

peasant wrote:

The pure vegetable oil "diesel" engine was first unveiled to the public in 1977.
A few years later is was further developed to run on filtered, used cooking oil.

I actually remember the feature about it on a TV show and how the presenter said that we would all be driving this tomorrow.

Vested interests in the motor and petrochemcals industrie had other ideas, though and deliberatley kept this technology out of the European markets.

http://www.elsbett.com/engl/index.htm

And thats why the Biodiesel and Ethanol and Hydrogen cars are been pushed at the moment ....They are the easiest for the petrochemcals companies to change to while maintaining control of energy.

JHMEG

I quite like the idea of this yoke. It sits there quietly producing Hydrogen using only sunlight (the solar panels are out of shot) and water. No oil companies involved.

The idea is that you'll have your own one at home - it's called Home Energy System.

Vegeta

that home hydro thing looks cool. then again the ability to produce hydrogen at your home does have its problems cough *home made bombs* cough