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25/50c pkr.com flush hand

  • 05-03-2007 7:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭


    Sorry about the format, theres no HH converter for pkr.com


    Table #1139647 - Great Keppel Island

    Game Type: Hold'em
    Limit Type: No Limit
    Table Type: Ring
    Money Type: REAL MONEY
    Blinds are now $0.25/$0.50
    Button is at seat 1
    Seat 1: megustabailar - $9.95
    Seat 2: TheWhiteSwan - $50.14
    Seat 3: DonBurgio - $31.75
    Seat 4: coukes - $55.11
    Seat 5: lightermanuk - $20.93
    Seat 6: Panda - $72.65
    Seat 7: Wanderers - $50
    Seat 8: SHARAZ - $12.11
    Seat 9: jcbdr88 - $47.50
    Seat 10: Fod01 - $0 (away from table)
    Moving Button to seat 2
    DonBurgio posts small blind ($0.25)
    coukes posts big blind ($0.50)
    Wanderers posts $0.50
    Shuffling Deck
    Dealing Cards
    Dealing [2d 6d] to TheWhiteSwan
    lightermanuk folds
    Panda calls $0.50
    Wanderers checks
    SHARAZ calls $0.50
    jcbdr88 folds
    megustabailar folds
    TheWhiteSwan calls $0.50
    DonBurgio calls $0.50
    coukes checks
    Dealing Flop [Qd 5d 5c]DonBurgio checks
    coukes checks
    Panda checks
    Wanderers bets $0.50
    SHARAZ raises to $1
    TheWhiteSwan calls $1
    DonBurgio calls $1
    coukes folds
    Panda folds
    Wanderers calls $1
    Dealing Turn [4d]DonBurgio checks
    Wanderers checks
    SHARAZ bets $1.50
    TheWhiteSwan calls $1.50
    DonBurgio raises to $13.50
    Wanderers folds
    SHARAZ calls $10.61 (all-in)
    TheWhiteSwan ?????

    Not long at the table but the general standard here is poor. I taught about raising the turn here but there was 2 left to act so i didnt want to scare them away, is this ok.

    Whats my plan giving the action and Don Burgio still to act?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    fold everywhere!

    I'd imagine you're beaten on the turn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭tacker


    Any other site fold.On PKR call.The standard is brutal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    As PL says fold everywhere.
    Fold preflop! This is only ever going to lose you money over the long run!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    Normally limping with 26o isnt ideal but on pkr.com the standard as said above and ive said it myself in other threads is shocking, it makes tribeca donks look like rocks:) So im playing alot of hands in position and playing v.tight OOP as i know ill get paid off against most of these villains if i hit.

    So im happy to play 26o here in late position. Im only getting 3/1 on the flop call but i know if i hit theres a high chance ill get action from 1 or 2 players and enough to give me the implied odds i need even if its a low flush. The 55 on board with several limpers would also be very lucritive if i hit my flush and someone has the 5 although it could work against me and give someone the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    IMO if you are playing against a table full of fishy calling stations just rock up and get paid off on your good hands, you have to hit a very specific flop with 62 suited or unsuited and the way you are describing the players it looks as if they would be the type of players that wouldnt lay down a hand so theres no point trying to bluff them off hands just cause you are in position, the 1 time you hit your dream flop is not going to outway the amount of times you are calling with 62 missing and subsequently folding, there is no way the players are playing deep enough for this to be a +EV move, however I could be wrong.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    playing 26 is never going to be good.

    anyway, here you have the lowest flush possible, on a paired board, with loads of action in front of you. such an easy fold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Rnger


    what hands do you put them on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    i'd fold, you could easily be already beaten, if not already any 4,5,Q or diamond and your are almost always beaten. Thats happening around 35%. If one of them holds a five (and your ahead) you've to avoid three more cards.

    Say your already beat here half the time and ahead the other half. Then this call had -EV, tie in the fact that the villina still has cash behind, then its only getting worse.



    EDIT: forgot to add to cry when you make the right decision and fold only to see the 3d on the river


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    When i originally posted this it was just because of the hands shown down and i wanted to highlight how soft pkr.com is. I wouldnt have posted this if at least one of them had a pair but i had to laugh. I would have folded this on tribeca but i knew there was a good chance of seeing 1 with Qx and one with 5x

    Still i had no reads and it could have been a better flush or FH so it wasnt a great call. Its just lucky theres people worse than me playing here:( Seriously though ive still alot to learn at this game yet, alot of the hands i post my thinking is off but still posting here has improved my game an awful lot. I think i will go back to playing STT's where i was successful for a few months and maybe try cash again in a few months when i have a bigger bankroll as i cant be bothered playing 10c/25c as i dont feel like im risking anything because the stakes are low. I had built my bankroll to $1,000 on tribeca playing STT's but managed to deplete that since turning to cash games mainly due to playing $100 buyin when i hadnt the bankroll and obviously not great idea when im still learning cash. I did however manage to build $80 to around $350 here on pkr.com so i might still dabble here as im above this standard at least.

    Anywho to the hand:

    DonBurgio raises to $13.50
    Wanderers folds
    SHARAZ calls $10.61 (all-in)
    TheWhiteSwan raises to $48.64 (all-in)
    DonBurgio calls $30.25 (all-in)
    Returning $18.39 to TheWhiteSwan uncalled
    TheWhiteSwan shows [2d 6d]
    DonBurgio shows [3h 3c]
    SHARAZ shows [9s Ac]
    Dealing River [Jd]
    Taking Rake of $3 from pot 1
    TheWhiteSwan has Flush, Queen high
    TheWhiteSwan wins $39.28 from side pot #1 with: Flush, Queen high
    TheWhiteSwan wins $35.83 with: Flush, Queen high:eek: :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Mr. Flibble


    Like nearly everyone else, I'd fold here at every point in the hand.
    Try to multitable there, it takes so much effort you will only have time to play QQ+!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Mr. Flibble


    dvdfan wrote:
    When i originally posted this it was just because of the hands shown down and i wanted to highlight how soft pkr.com is. I wouldnt have posted this if at least one of them had a pair but i had to laugh. I would have folded this on tribeca but i knew there was a good chance of seeing 1 with Qx and one with 5x
    I've played there quite alot last week. It is unbelievble, people have no bankroll or poker ability there. So many people jump between .25/.50 and 2/4 if they win a bit. They double up and move up. Then they tilt and then turn up on the play money tables a while later.
    An 'interesting' hand was played a few days ago. I don't have the HH but here's a close description of the action.
    2/4 NLH. Effective stacks 400. I've AA in the BB. UTG makes it 20. 1 caller. I make it 80. Only UTG calls. Flop AKQ. I bet 90. Call. Turn 4. I bet 160. UTG pushes and I call of course. He has JJ and no T on the river - and he promptly moves to a 5/10 table (but I don't have the gonads to follow:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Fold preflop, fold on the flop. Both of those calls were awful


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