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Al Gore is a Hypocrite

  • 28-02-2007 2:19am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭


    Caught this on Fox News this evening. According to some guy from an American energency agency, last year he used over 20 times more than the average American citizen.

    It's actually funny, Hannity and Colmes (Fox News Show here in the US) are "exposing" him as a hypocrite. Classic Fox stuff, but it will be interesting what Gore responds with.


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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    How much did he reduce by spending 20 times more then the average person?

    How many people were affected by his film enough to make a change? How much did all that change add up to?

    Fox "News"... puhlease. You'd have to pay me to watch that political propaganda machine.

    DeV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭cousin_borat


    DeVore wrote:
    Fox "News"... puhlease. You'd have to pay me to watch that political propaganda machine.
    DeV.
    Hey Dev, I'm merely playing devils advocate here :) CNN is as bad as Fox these days (Glenn Beck amongst others) and I can't stand MSNBC so there's really only CSpan.

    Anyway I'm sure the clip from Hannity Colmes will be on youtube soon enough so people can make up their own mind!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    I'm sure he has to use air travel a lot more than most Americans to promote his environmental endevours, so that would account for his large enviromental footprint.

    Although when he was in power as the vice president in the Clinton administration I don't recall him doing too much to push kyoto protocol in the senate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭SteveS


    but it will be interesting what Gore responds with.

    Like most politicians (and celebrities), "do what I say, not what I do."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,577 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    energency
    energency = energy emergency ????


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭cousin_borat


    Victor wrote:
    energency = energy emergency ????

    energency = braindead from staring at code too long


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Average means something. It means that when you take all the people together and do the math you come out with the average. There will be people above and below it.

    It doesn't mean that everyone should be hitting that figure.

    and tbh how can you compare Gore to the Average, he isn't in the average demographic to begin with. Does he do an average job? Take home an average wage? Average journeys in comparison to the average person?

    It really is Fox News at it's worst. Although they outdid themselves on Obama. Their Fox News exclusives showed that Obama was a Muslim! (Shock) his middle name is Hussain (horror!!) and as a kid he went to a Madrassa (which is Arabic for School).

    Take Fox News for what it is. A comedy trainwreck.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    Hobbes wrote:
    It really is Fox News at it's worst.

    Totally disagree with you there. It's Fox News as per normal. :D

    How about doing a fair and balanced piece by surveying all Republican and Democrat politicians.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭cousin_borat


    At least Fox is what it is and everyone knows it for what it is (drivel). I find CNN shift towards the right much more cynical and more off-putting.

    I would say Gore would probably run for president, depending on how much Hilary and Obama cannabalize each other. Since he's on the board of Apple and Google I'm sure he won't have any trouble raising any last minute funds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭Gonzo_Reporter


    At least Fox is what it is and everyone knows it for what it is (drivel). I find CNN shift towards the right much more cynical and more off-putting.
    I would say Gore would probably run for president, depending on how much Hilary and Obama cannabalize each other. Since he's on the board of Apple and Google I'm sure he won't have any trouble raising any last minute funds.

    I dont think you can really trust anything from U.S 24/7 news, except the weather.
    I dont think Gore is going to run, he hasnt even got a exploratory committe. If you saw him at the Oscars he was making a joke out of it. mind you he has got a lot of press since his film. But there are already 7 official candiates. he would only successfully pull votes away from Clinton, imo.

    And BTW what was with the producers of the film almost crying over Gore receiving their award, was that a joke too, PLZ say it was.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Well I for one heartily welcome the word 'energency' into the English language. May it serve us well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭sovtek


    While I don't think Fox News has any legitimacy or that An Inconvenient Truth isn't full of relevant facts. Al is indeed a hypocrit when it comes to the environment. His term under Clinton is no progressive environmental one. He also supported Occidental Petroleums bid to drill on Inuit land against their wishes. Luckily OP had to drop the plan due to bad publicity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Sky are also saying the claims are based purely on the electricity usage at his house, so that the airmiles don't even come into it.

    no mention of how that electricity is produced though... Gore claims he's switched to a greener supplier or something...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    Caught this on Fox News this evening. According to some guy from an American energency agency, last year he used over 20 times more than the average American citizen.

    I'm not quite sure what FOX mean by that. Al Gore isn't an average American, so what is the relevance to comparing him to an average America.

    They should look at the energy he does use and then see if he takes steps to curb the amount he uses. If he doesn't then he is a hypocrite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭J.S. Pill


    Something tells me that Al Gore is perfectly aware of his large carbon footprint and won't be doing anything about it anytime soon. Check this out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭FatherTed


    Memo to cousin_borat:

    ALL Politicians are hypocrites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭ANXIOUS


    Caught this on Fox News this evening. According to some guy from an American energency agency, last year he used over 20 times more than the average American citizen.

    It's actually funny, Hannity and Colmes (Fox News Show here in the US) are "exposing" him as a hypocrite. Classic Fox stuff, but it will be interesting what Gore responds with.

    Thats probally because he lives in a house 20 times bigger then the average american. And never ever belive fox news after all they won a presidency and started a couple wars not bad for a tv station


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Deliverance


    Are not Fox and CNN both interests of 'News international'? CNN are as manipulative and biased as Fox and manipulate their presentations to a high degree as much as Fox does. Most people realise that Fox actually has no journalism only frontmen who articulate the views of the news giant like shiny car salesmen. CNN could be considered to be far more sinister. As Gail Dines discovered...

    http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0119-21.htm

    On the same topic of media manipulation and ownership check out the debate between Bob McChesney and James Compaine, an interesting thought provoking debate...

    http://www.opendemocracy.net/media-globalmediaownership/debate.jsp

    All this is relevant to Al Gore and indeed indicitave of the use of the media to portray ideas and biased views to a public, many who are naive to the complexitys which go on behind the scenes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,698 ✭✭✭InFront


    Are not Fox and CNN both interests of 'News international'? CNN are as manipulative and biased as Fox and manipulate their presentations to a high degree as much as Fox does.

    I'm not a fan of either, both are manipulative to some extent but there's just no comparing CNN to FOX. At least CNN is a bit closer to what we get here in Europe - it's not completely without bias, but it's no FOX. They do my head in, but sometimes they're like the car crash you can't look away from...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Deliverance


    InFront wrote:
    I'm not a fan of either, both are manipulative to some extent but there's just no comparing CNN to FOX. At least CNN is a bit closer to what we get here in Europe - it's not completely without bias, but it's no FOX. They do my head in, but sometimes they're like the car crash you can't look away from...
    I think that the car crash point you made really hits the nail on the head and that is the whole point, News media today is perceived first by the general public as being fact, Fox is ridiculous to those in the know but it obviously has a following of rubber neckers and folks with a definate interest.

    I mentioned earlier that Fox has no Journalists and therefore no Journalistic reporting whatsoever. Apparently this is because it is more profitable and journalists are prone to ethics which might not suit the companies interests ie: profit.

    CNN are as far as I know under the same interests though not as directly as Fox news. If you would take the time to read the links that I provided above you will maybe understand more, my opinion on the connections between Fox and CNN, particularly examine the first link it concerns a respected individuals experience of a CNN interview.

    The second link provides an informitave debate which is strongly relevant as it provides an insight from several individuals who specialise in the area of media. I particularly find Bob McChesneys views very interesting.

    As for not being able to compare Fox with CNN... I find that view limited, no insult intended I think I would have said the same thing myself were I not more informed, so read the links and then form an opinion as such. Cheers.


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