Whats this then? (Red Square building site)

Cabaal

Was heading home after work and was in town this evening and spotted this big structure right where the old Taxi rank was.

Anyone know what it is?

Jor

Perhaps they are going to use it for public hangings.
Bringing a modern look to old fashioned street entertainment.

AdMMM

Perhaps they're hanging flags from them? They do look similar to several other poles that are around the city that are used for that purpose.

merlante

Have they discovered oil?

Trick of the Tail

Not another waste of money 'street art' ?

fade2black

Bungie jumping for midgets?

Jor

Cable dancing?

It's like pole dancing but out-doors and not as comfortable.

Cabaal

|.Murderer.| wrote:

Perhaps they're hanging flags from them? They do look similar to several other poles that are around the city that are used for that purpose.

Abit over the top for some flags, was passing them again tonight and noticed the archway at the back of them appears to be all stone (same colour as the stone currently their) and its all covered in cardboard and plastic at present.

anyone remember seeing planning permission for a structure their in the last few months?

Maharet

Apparently it's urban renewal works, there have been notices in the Munster a couple of times about it. Broad St will be closed until the 8th of April. (I presume that's it it was set to start the 3rd of March. )

decies

I heard it cost 300,000 euro and yes it will be used for hangings.

portlairge

its going to be a public and tourist information point. and about time.

Roen

Who are they hanging first?

fricatus

Roen wrote:

Who are they hanging first?

A certain serial objector springs to mind

merlante

decies wrote:

I heard it cost 300,000 euro and yes it will be used for hangings.

About time, I was gutted when capital punishment was abolished in 1990. :mad: Not a single person has been killed in the state since 1985, and the last Waterford man to be executed was Patrick Dunphy in 1900! I could list off a half dozen Waterford men who should be hanged!

It's nice to see my letters have finally been answered and that criminals will be made to pay once again.

Maharet

It's gonna be a computerised touch screen info point. It'll be connected to the council computers so they can update it regulary. Tis in the News & Star.

c - 13

I hear paddy powers are taking bets on how long it lasts

Seriously though should be a nice addition, if its left alone ....

Sully

c - 13 wrote:

I hear paddy powers are taking bets on how long it lasts

One busy weekend in Waterford - and it will be "Out of Order" or sprayed over with some gothic writing, or damaged due to bikers/skaters doing there moves on it.

Maharet

Sully04 wrote:

One busy weekend in Waterford - and it will be "Out of Order" or sprayed over with some gothic writing, or damaged due to bikers/skaters doing there moves on it.

Yeah I'd imagine it'll get the same treatment as bank machines, the things people do to them with a skinful in them is horrible!

Still it's a great idea and hopefully it will be left alone...

Cabaal

Sully04 wrote:

One busy weekend in Waterford - and it will be "Out of Order" or sprayed over with some gothic writing, or damaged due to bikers/skaters doing there moves on it.

Yep that sounds about right, thats whats gona happen

Only way I can see people not going near them is if they gave free net access, then they'd spent all the time on bebo and they wouldn't damage them :rolleyes:

AdMMM

Computers? Exposed in public? Disaster waiting to happen!

Fajitas!

I like them.

Hope it lasts.

Asmodean

One busy weekend in Waterford - and it will be "Out of Order" or sprayed over with some gothic writing, or damaged due to bikers/skaters doing there moves on it.

I've never seen people so biased about skaters and BMXers!! And whats this about "gothic writing." If you know anything you'd understand that most of the grafitti and vandalism is done by the no good little hooligans, NOT skaters. And anyway they can't "do their moves" on a structure like this. When was the last time you saw a skater grind an atm machine ffs. Funny how on a previous thread people were discussing the new park scheme and all the oul gaa heads started bitching about the skate park they're developing down there.

Cabaal

Asmodean, shhhh
the vast majority of people here hate skaters which is pretty much a reflection of the general public so your not going to win any argument here

You may think you have, but people will only hate BMX'ers and skaters even more after they try to defend their actions

decies

Asmodean wrote:

I've never seen people so biased about skaters and BMXers!! And whats this about "gothic writing." If you know anything you'd understand that most of the grafitti and vandalism is done by the no good little hooligans, NOT skaters. And anyway they can't "do their moves" on a structure like this. When was the last time you saw a skater grind an atm machine ffs. Funny how on a previous thread people were discussing the new park scheme and all the oul gaa heads started bitching about the skate park they're developing down there.

I heard that skaters will be used in the trial run for the first hangings,thus saving the taxpayers thousands of euro

Sully

Asmodean wrote:

I've never seen people so biased about skaters and BMXers!! And whats this about "gothic writing." If you know anything you'd understand that most of the grafitti and vandalism is done by the no good little hooligans, NOT skaters. And anyway they can't "do their moves" on a structure like this. When was the last time you saw a skater grind an atm machine ffs. Funny how on a previous thread people were discussing the new park scheme and all the oul gaa heads started bitching about the skate park they're developing down there.

Hi As,

Thanks for expressing your concerns with my post. Its good to see someone representing the Skater & BMXng society on boards.

My comments are not completely made up and random. Its a well known fact that a lot of the skaters & BMXerz cause a lot of damage around Waterford City, or cause a general discomfort (even intemdiation at some points) to the general public. So much is this a fact, that the Plazza had to undergo several clean up operations using tax payers money after damage caused by people using their bikes and skateboards to grind, kick-flip onto, and do other skate acts upon them. In recent times, it has had to be closed of completely for a major clean up operation and installation of CCTV Cameras to aid Security Firms and local Gardai in catching the vandles.

I recall Gardai doing raids on the Plaza, and I witnessed many people cycling away and skating away. Some with hods, some with tea-cosy hats and some other crazy style hats also. Now, please correct me if im wrong, but would the people on BMXs and Skateboards not be considered "BMXers and Skaters"? A large area always occupied by them suddenly gets a visit from the cops and they are so innocent they flea leaving poor all Mr. Garda racing down the Plaza to catch as many as he can while on the walkie-talking to the garda car heading towards the crowd in the direction of the tower hotel.

So there we have it - people on BMXers and Skateboards have been witnessed (and probably arrested) doing damage to structures around Waterford City. When approached by Gardai, they flea. If they were all goodie toshoes, why the heck did they flea? You claim that they are "hoodies". Most "hoodies" hate goths, skaters and BMXers and do their level best to terrorise them. Sorry, but its true. They dont usual be on Bikes or Skateboards unless they are breaking them.

As far as im concerned, and because I have witnessed it myself, BOTH hoddies, skates and bikers are all responsible for damage done to structers around Waterford City.

As regards to skate parks. Im all for them. It gets them of the street and into controlled grounds with specificaly built structures for them to **** with. It saves us money, as they are no longer around damaging the Plaza and our lovely information points :P (joke on the IP bit there).

(Please Note: I am not specificaly refering to any one person or any one group. I am also not saying that all skaters, goths or bmxers are trouble makers. There are a selection of good, but it seems a lot (from what is reported in papers, and witnesed by myself) do cause trouble. I am also fully aware of other non-skaters,bikers,goths participating in anti-social behaviour and doing damage to structurers around Waterford also.)

Thanks for listening, and no offense to you or anyone else. Im just stating things how I see it, and I hate to see some good spots destroyed in Waterford.

Minto

**Starts to sob** lol

Not another sk8er thread please!!! We've had these threads so many times! Can't we all just get along?

Sully

Minto wrote:

**Starts to sob** lol

Not another sk8er thread please!!! We've had these threads so many times! Can't we all just get along?

Sorry, no. Its against my religion.

Fandyfan

Sully04 wrote:

One busy weekend in Waterford - and it will be "Out of Order" or sprayed over with some gothic writing, or damaged due to bikers/skaters doing there moves on it.

first of all "off with their heads!" hee hee

and secondly, by the looks of it, i doubt skaters or bikers can do any of their moves on it...theres nothin there to do moves on but thats not me saying that it wont get vandilized cos it will.
dont mean to change the subject but u know the colourdy cows and pigs that were around ireland a while back? well they were all round europe and ireland was the only place that they got vandilized. thats y i think that it will get vandiled one way or another...

Fandyfan

p.s sorry... if i brought up more about the skating thingy...forgot to read the latest replies.

Sully

I wonder will they put CCTV cameras on the Information Points?

AdMMM

Funny how on a previous thread people were discussing the new park scheme and all the oul gaa heads started bitching about the skate park they're developing down there

Sorry, I couldn't leave this one go. Yes, I did criticise the Councils decision to authorise the skatepark in the Park but I feel as if I was right to do so; There is already one public skatepark facility in Waterford City while there is precious little in the form of Public green space and I feel that the Coucil should not be giving into the demands or should I say the crimes of those who choose not to avail of the facilities already in place and cause damage (be it intentional or not) to monuments in town by skating. For the record, I'm not some GAA head - I've never played any GAA sport - and I find it ironic that you give out about people stereotyping you only for you to immediately generalise everyone else who didn't approve of the new skate park.

rogue-entity

I havent been in town in a good while, I never even noticed this being built.. but since its just a nice fancy IP, I wonder, what are the chances that I will walk past only to see either the imfamous BSOD, or some other windowsy error message, frack, I once saw an ATM crash with one of those, just glad I wasnt using it when it happened

I just hope that they install CCTV around Waterford, that and a "yellow card" system a la UK, could certainly help to combat general anti-social behavior.

BadCharlie

Sully04 wrote:

I wonder will they put CCTV cameras on the Information Points?

Well CCTV is now up as of this morning and its working. Temp signs will be placed around the street saying CCTV, but more perm signs will be in place shortly.

Asmodean

I find it ironic that you give out about people stereotyping you

I never said anyone was stereotyping against me. I'm not a BMXer nor a skater.:D

Sully

BadCharlie wrote:

Well CCTV is now up as of this morning and its working. Temp signs will be placed around the street saying CCTV, but more perm signs will be in place shortly.

How do you know? o_O

Cabaal

Sully04 wrote:

How do you know? o_O

works for the council?

Sully

Cabaal wrote:

works for the council?

The council do some work?

Maybe tho.

Tanabe

Sully04 wrote:

Hi As,

a lot of the skaters & BMXerz cause a lot of damage around Waterford City, or cause a general discomfort (even intemdiation at some points)

Are you intemdiating me?

Sully

Tanabe wrote:

Are you intemdiating me?

Meh. I was in a hurry, and I couldnt be arsed to check my spelling. Ya get the point

themonk

The monument and / or info kiosk is really a new quik fit tyres outlet for monster trucks

Freddie59

portlairge wrote:

its going to be a public and tourist information point. and about time.

I passed this tonight (Friday). It's appaling. The worst looking contraption I've ever seen and totally out of keeping with it's surroundings. Did the Corpo have to apply for permission for this carbunkel?:mad:

amron

they're hanging flag things from them-they're up already!

Cabaal

So myself and girlfriend were walking past this thing tonight and they were testing the lights and using a green laser to draw out shapes and words on the white sheets hanging from it and we were commenting on how out of place it looked etc (just to ourselfs)

Next thing some women starts going on about how its great waterford can have such a thing and its not just New York etc that can have such things and then she started comparing it to old Victorian stuff (street lights etc)....seems she was the artist or something that designed it :rolleyes:

AdMMM

I'd hate to see what this place will be like on a busy Saturday. I don't like the idea of having to avoid something when walking down there :S

thund3rbird_

it's a stand / stage / platform thingy for when the hurlers win the all-Ireland in Sept :rolleyes:

with the opening of croker it's also expected to be used when the bluez win the EL :rolleyes::rolleyes:

or maybe it's part of the €20M for the airport? tie a few gallybanders to it for those short flights to tramore / mooncoin / new ross etc

Cabaal

I see they have about 4-5 "CCTV" warning signs up around the structure now, to be honest it doesn't look like it does anything other then being artsy fartsy

soldering iron

Roen wrote:

Who are they hanging first?

Brendan Mc Cann hopefully:D

Maharet

soldering iron wrote:

Brendan Mc Cann hopefully:D

fricatus

Freddie59 wrote:

I passed this tonight (Friday). It's appaling. The worst looking contraption I've ever seen and totally out of keeping with it's surroundings. Did the Corpo have to apply for permission for this carbunkel?:mad:

I seem to remember you and me disagreeing on the merits of some of the newer buildings around Waterford in the past, but I took a walk around town this evening and this time I'm 100% in agreement with you.

It's horrible looking. It doesn't seem to serve any useful purpose. It ruins the line of the view down from Michael St towards John Roberts Square, and upwards from Barronstrand St. It blocks and overshadows the entrance to Sam McAuley's chemist and Foot Locker (and don't tell me they're happy with it).

I'd like to see some questions answered about this horrible piece of crap:

1. Who pushed for this to be erected?

2. Was planning permission required? If not, what exemption mechanism allowed for it?

3. How much did it cost, and how much of that came from public funds?

4. What is it actually for?

5. If planning permission was required, where the hell was Brendan McCann? I would normally stick pins in a voodoo doll of him but on this one occasion I'd have been four square behind the man!

6. Now that it's clear that it's a severe eyesore, when is it going to be removed, or are we going to have to do a Nelson's Pillar on it? I swear, I'm tempted to head down there some night with an oxyacetylene torch and re-improve my city!

Cabaal

fricatus wrote:

5. If planning permission was required, where the hell was Brendan McCann? I would normally stick pins in a voodoo doll of him but on this one occasion I'd have been four square behind the man!

He objects to stuff when we don't want him to and the one bloody time you want him to object to something he's nowhere to be found.....useless once again :rolleyes:

The structure still looks awful out of place and you can tell the CoCo are scared it'll be made bits of due to all the CCTV signs they have stuck up.