NTL Fiasco

Wompa1

With the emergence that NTL will more than likely lose some of Skys Basic Channels like Sky One, Sky Two, Sky Sports News etc., I was wondeirng what position customers like myself will be in and what others whom avail of their service will be doing about it?, I in all honesty would like to switch to Sky if this does happen but know theres a 100 euro cancellation fee, but would they not be reneging on their end of the contract by not supplying so many of the channels advertised when I subscirbed. Any feedback at all?

aidan_walsh

would they not be reneging on their end of the contract by not supplying so many of the channels advertised when I subscirbed.

Its in the terms and conditions, section 12, which you agreed to by signing up.

12. Television Programming

If you request the Television Service, we will supply it to the best of our ability. However, television programme contents, packages of channels, programming schedules, broadcast hours of any channel, channel allocations and transmission times may change or channels or television programmes may no longer be available. This may occur for reasons beyond our control, including decisions of programme providers or technical difficulties, or for reasons that we were not aware of nor could not have foreseen at the time the programme was advertised or scheduled. We may also change the channels and packaging of channels if we believe it will improve the Television Service provided to our customers. We shall not be liable to you for any such changes, lack of availability or failure to transmit any advertised television programme or channels or to do so at the advertised time.

admiralofthefleet

2 music channels disappeared this week, bliss and another one that i cant remember the name of.

rogue-entity

Well, UPC (NTL/Chorus) are a seperate entity from Virgin, so the discussions do not relate to us. Their is a chance though that Sky will try the same tactic here, but, they probably will wait for what ever agreements are between Sky and NTL and Chorus before they attempt such a thing.

Seth Brundle

admiralofthefleet wrote:

2 music channels disappeared this week, bliss and another one that i cant remember the name of.

Scuzz - I used to watch it a bit as the other metal channel (Kerrang) is crap!
I wouldn't have minded as much if I had been informed of the change but NTL like so many companys in this poxy country feel its OK to shít on their customers!

my recent NTL experience...

_Kaiser_

From a post I just submitted to the ICDG Cable forum here on Boards

When Sky and Cablelink fell out here in 1992 this was a far bigger problem as there really was nowhere else to see first-run US TV.

These days however there's:
- far better competition (from a programming perspective) from analogue/other satellite channels to Sky One, who back then did indeed have the rights to almost everything that came in.

- The Internet. Regardless of whether you approve/agree or not, the episodes of all the most popular shows are readily available to download, often months before they make their debut here. With the rise of HDTV, this becomes a viable alternative as the quality is vastly improved (though personally I much prefer to buy a show like Galactica on DVD, which leads me neatly to my next point..)

- DVD's. For less than the price of a night out these days (in most cases anyway), you can buy an entire season of a show online, have it delivered in a few days, and watch the whole lot as you like uninterrupted by ad breaks, on-screen graphics/idents, and in better quality (especiallly with new HD-upscaling DVD players coming onto the market) then you get on even Sky One on satellite.

In short this isn't the same threat as it used to be I reckon and ultimately, the only ones it'll really hurt is Sky themselves.

PixelTrawler

If this only meant losing Sky One, Sky Two, Sky Sports News & Sky News i wouldn't care. I never watch them. I'd be far more concerned if ntl lost more4or bbc 3&4 or channel4.

Terry

Moved from AH.

Mossy Monk

Wompa1 wrote:

With the emergence that NTL will more than likely lose some of Skys Basic Channels like Sky One, Sky Two, Sky Sports News etc.

says who?

NTL in Ireland and Virgin Media are not related in any way

Lump

Sky are asking Virgin to pay twice as much for the stations then NTL were, hence they told Sky to fúck off. Don't blame them TBH, sky is shít.


John

byte

Yeah, Sky must be worried about the competition they will face from Virgin Media.

I think that along with wanting Virgin to pay Sky more for Sky's basic channels on Virgin platform, in turn Sky wanted (or did) pay Virgin less for their channels (LivingTV, etc) on the Sky digital platform.

Mossy Monk

Sky do now pay a lot less for the channels owned by Virgin Media