Accenture ESC - anyone knows what they are like to work for?

Kulpix

Acenture ESC in Dublin sounds like a very prestigious and one of the best to work for according to some TOP 50 rankings. Anyone has any experience with them? Also -are they paying all right? Thanks!

hallelujah

A mate of mine started recently as a junior java engineer on €31,000 per year.

is_that_so

I guess there are always good and bad reports.
I know two people with other experiences of them.

One person has just handed in their notice after three years, having been outsourced from a parent company to Accenture and the other person left some time back. Take a good hard luck at what they are offering and what is expected of you.
Like any job make sure it is the job for you. No amount of money can make up for a job you don't like.

i71jskz5xu42pb

Kulpix wrote:

Acenture ESC in Dublin sounds like a very prestigious and one of the best to work for according to some TOP 50 rankings. Anyone has any experience with them? Also -are they paying all right? Thanks!

Jeez, sounds like an advertisement for Accenture. (What's with the ESC?)

Anyway, I'm sure like most big companies you get the opportunity to work on some big projects. Downside would be the politics and the whole "Anderson androids" thing.

*My experience: I've worked alongside but not for Anderson/Accenture (and in the US at that).

ixoy

Are you looking at the ESC or the IFSC?
Accenture ESC deals primarily with supporting Accenture Europe - administrative
details.
Accenture IFSC deals primarily with the IT arm - here is where people are deployed to different IT projects based on their skill set. This is where you'd end up if you're say a Java developer or COBOL developer temporarily before being placed on a project elsewhere in the city (or beyond, if there's a need for it).

I work for Accenture IFSC, so if you've any questions about the roles there, drop me a PM.

damnyanks

Accenture is a consultancy.

Consultancies work on the basis of hiring someone in and charging clients around their salary X 10. You usually have to meet certain deliverables which are stated in a contract.

If you miss these deadlines you lose the company money so thats why you have that added pressure. I used to hear people complain about Accenture in Ireland saying the hours were crazy but looking back at it i'm under the belief that these people expected 9 - 5 everyday.

You won't work 9 - 5 but something to consider is if your job is 9 - 5 specifically their is a strong possability thta it is a very boring job.

nesf

damnyanks wrote:

You won't work 9 - 5 but something to consider is if your job is 9 - 5 specifically their is a strong possability thta it is a very boring job.

Honestly, the amount of hours you work has very little to do with how boring your job is. Justifying working loads of overtime because a "9-5 is boring" is a bit pointless tbh. If they pay you well enough for you to put in the hours or it's a key stepping stone into the career you really want then cool, but that should be justification enough.

damnyanks

Working beyond 9 - 5 because its boring doesnt make sense i.e i won't work till 7 pm just to make life interesting.

What I mean is job's I've been in where you came in at 9, took a 1 hour lunch and left at 5 were usually very slow dull jobs (IT, Call center type stuff). Job's where the pressure was on to deliver results I found far more enjoyable. Ideally I'd rather not work 60 hours a week and eat a 5 minute lunch at my desk but I never noticed the day go by and I was constantly being challenged.

nesf

damnyanks wrote:

Working beyond 9 - 5 because its boring doesnt make sense i.e i won't work till 7 pm just to make life interesting.

What I mean is job's I've been in where you came in at 9, took a 1 hour lunch and left at 5 were usually very slow dull jobs (IT, Call center type stuff). Job's where the pressure was on to deliver results I found far more enjoyable. Ideally I'd rather not work 60 hours a week and eat a 5 minute lunch at my desk but I never noticed the day go by and I was constantly being challenged.

It's more the generalisation that 9-5 is boring that I took issue with it. Call centre stuff, be it in sales or IT or whatever, tends to be boring and monotonous by nature of the job not anything else. At least, that's what I found anyway. Working off a script for 8 to 9 hours just isn't very interesting.

mick.fr

Accenture is a nice business card but do not expect to work with qualified managers.

Most of them were Java Developpers a few years back and when it comes to manage a complex project, there is a serious lack of experience.
Many students (Well freshly dimplomed people) are being hired by Accenture and I am really wondering why, I guess they want to shape them while they are still young, but from a business point of vue this does not make sense.

Accenture Ireland has made some huge mistakes in the past years, making the Gov organisations spent millions for nothing as many projects were to the wall.

Accenture is back in some Gov organisations and they have made some progress, mainly because they have hired more or less skilled consultants from UK in the last 2 years.

There is a serious lack of infrastructure/solution consultant at Accenture, so what they do mostly is development, and not very well.

One thing which is extremelly anoying at Accenture is the regular meetings where the managers say "We are the best, we did this and this" but when you actually speak to their customers, the customers say "Yeah we kicked out Accenture 2 years ago, but we had no choice to bring them back, as what they did was so messy than our new providers (Fudjitsu...) can not fix the issues"

But still Accenture has some prestigous customers, so go for it, take what you have to take and the day you will not enjoy it anymore (Yes there is some joy hopefully) you will leave, like many people do after 2-3 years.

Enjoy

Kulpix

OK, my experience from working in Accounting at Accenture is:
1) no benefits - no VHI (they pay 50%), no gym subsidy, no bus tickets
2) don't pay too well (i.e. they pay 27-28K to temps with min. 2 years experience)
3) some of the managers totally incompetent
4) very laid back atmosphere, not too much work

fret_wimp

Kulpix wrote:

OK, my experience from working in Accounting at Accenture is:
1) no benefits - no VHI (they pay 50%), no gym subsidy, no bus tickets
2) don't pay too well (i.e. they pay 27-28K to temps with min. 2 years experience)
3) some of the managers totally incompetent
4) very laid back atmosphere, not too much work

I agree with most of this. No benifits. That kills me. My mates all get seriously subsidised gym( or free in some cases), accenture only offer that to Manager Level B or higher. They dont pay for bus tickets. Over time you work is just paid at standard hourly rate, ( for Full Time Employees anyway) and you are expected to do a number of hours over your basic hours each week ( in the contract actually!).They take in very inexpirienced people, keep them for a few years, and when those folks get the expirience and look for the money they should actually be on, accenture wont offer it, so all expirience leaves Accenture, and they hire more inexpirienced people and thus the cycle starts all over again! If your just starting off in the IT industry they are a great place to get expirience, but if you want money you deserve for your expirience after 2 years, expect to have to move. They are all about saving money, keeping costs down at the expense of paying employees and at the expense of benifits.

cailinoBAC

Accenture ESC is not consultancy. It's all the administration there(9 to half five). Very very badly paid unless they've changed in the past 4 years but I doubt it. High turnover of staff. I went back for an interview there last year just for practice and got the shivers as soon as I walked in the door.

I mean, maybe it depends on what job you're getting, but the vast majority are low paid and as was pointed out, you don't get many benefits. Also you have to give 2 months notice, which is ridiculous for such low level jobs.

bananarepublic

whats accenture consultancy like to work for ????