The best yet worst from europe

Dun laoire

Weekend of 1st Dec 2006

England = Man Utd 8/15 Away W
Scotland = Celtic 1/4 Home W
Spain = Villareal 2/5 Home W
Italy = Inter Milan 1/6 Home W
France = Lyon 1/2 Away W
Germany = Bayern Munich 2/9 Home D
Ireland = Portadown 2/5 Away W
Austria = Salzburg 1/5 Home D
Belgium = Genk 1/3 Home W
Greece = AEK Athens 1/6 Home W
Holland = Ajax 1/7 Home W
Portugal = Porto 2/7 Home W
Switzerland = St Gallen 4/9 Home W

Lads i tried this only once before on another forum. I dont know why but i never bothered trying again but anyway the idea is i just pick one team from each country around europe with the worst odds. The last time i picked 13 teams which worked out at 30.84/1. 11 won and 2 drew so of course i lost my bet but i'l go at it again to see how i get on. Here goes



England : Liverpool 3/10 v Sheff utd

Scotland Queen of the south v Hibernian 1/3

Spain: Barcelona 2/7 v Athletic bilbao

Italy: Roma 3/10 v Reggina

France: Lyon 1/3 v Sochaux

Germany: Bayern Munich 4/11 v Wolfsburg (Bayern let me down last time)

Austria: Salzberg 2/7 v Grazer AK (Salzberg let me down last time)

Belgium: Genk 3/10 v Roeselare

Greece: Panathinaikos 1/6 v Iraklis

Holland: PSV Eindhoven 2/9 v Groningen

Portugal: Sporting Lisbon 1/6 v Aves

Switzerland: Grasshoppers 1/3 v AARAU

Turkey: Galatasary 1/5 v Denizlispor

22.44/1 this weekend


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Right i've done a little bit of research on the 13 teams which i picked out for this weekend to try filter out any dodgy ones. Here's what i came up with.



Liverpool v Sheff utd 3/10 Home win YES
Going on home form Liverpool as we all know have one of the best around at the moment.
Sheffield Utds away form aint the worst (w3 d1 l9) but nothing special either beating strugglers watford and wigan.
Newcastle has to be said was a good result beating them 1-0. They also held Man city to a 0-0 draw.
I still think Liverpool have enough to beat them.


Queen of the south v Hibernian Away win 1/3 YES
Being a Cup game i was thinking i should avoid this one but QOTS are lying rock bottom of div1 and Hibs are doing
ok so really this should be a stroll in the park for Hibs but being a cup game it wont be that simple but i still think
Hibs have enough to beat them and with that have a realistic chance of silverware here.
I think the dream is over for QOTS.


Barcelona 2/7 v Athletic bilbao Home win NO
Now this is an interesting one. Barcelona like liverpool have an excellent home record but with all the
nonsense going on with eto and ronaldhino seems to have shook the Barcelona camp up and that showed tonight against the Pool.
This is not the only reason i'm staying away from this bet though
Athletic Bilbao are having a better run away from home and have gathered more points on their travels so
this one should be avoided.


Roma 3/10 v Reggina YES
Roma are another team who have an excellent home record only getting beaten once to Inter Milan 1-0
Regginas away record again is not the worst but the 3 teams they have beaten away are the three teams above them.
Like the Liverpool game i would expect Roma are good enough to take Reggina at home.


Bayern Munich 4/11 v Wolfsburg Away win NO
Bayern are nothing but a pain in the arse for me. They have let me down on a few occasions and are a big doubt.
Their away record leaves alot to be desired but are to be fair are pretty sound at home.
My other concern about Bayern is their goal difference. +7 is pretty dreadful for a team that is in 4th position
compared to the others above. Wolfsburgs confidence wouldve been givin a huge boost too after coming back from 2 nil down
to grab a draw drom the flying shalke04. This game aint gonna be easy for Bayern methinks and i'm not gonna let
those feckers do me again.


Salzberg 2/7 v Grazer AK Home win YES
Salzberg are running away with this league and again have yet to be beaten at home
I noticed they havent played since 9th dec?? Not sure why that is?? Anyway they have been on decent run of form
winning 3 and drawing 1 from their last 4. Grazers away form is (W2 D4 L4) both wins are against rapid vienna and
sturm graz who are both below Grazers. Salzberg should do the business.


Genk 3/10 v Roeselare YES
Genk again unbeaten at home and in fact are the only team in the Jupiter league that can brag about that.
Roesalare on the other hand are terrible away from home (W1 D3 L6). Two things that would concern me is
the one team they did beat away were Club Brugge on the 27th jan who were also unbeaten until then and
Roeselere are not on the worst run of form at the moment. This one is a tough call but i'l stick my head out and
go for the home win because of Genks record at home and also it must be taken into account the beat
both 4th and 5th comfortably over the last two weeks.


Panathinaikos 1/6 v Iraklis Home win YES
This should be a handy enough game for the home side with Irakilis on a bad run of form and not much
away from home (W2 D1 L7) one of them being ionikos (shamble of a team and probably worth looking at also who are away from home
this weekend) Panathinaikos on the other hand are doing fine at the moment only getting beaten once in the last 7 games
which were PAOK who are well up there.



PSV Eindhoven 2/9 v Groningen Home win NO
This one might be worth avoiding. PSV who to be fair are on top and also have a fantastic home record have stumbled
a little over the last few games. Groningens away form isnt too bad either (W4 D2 L6)
so they could well give PSV a good run for their money.



Sporting Lisbon 1/6 v Aves Home win YES
Sporting should easily overcome Aves here. Lisbons home form is pretty good at the moment while Aves
have yet to get 3 points on the road away form is (W0 D2 L6) and of the two drawa the two teams are nothing special.
Aves have lost 4 and drawn 2 from their last six games so surely Lisbon can take full points here to
try close the gap on Benfica and Porto.



Grasshoppers 1/3 v AARAU Home win NO
For me looking at the stats on Grasshoppers they seem to be a bit hit and miss and to be honest are on bad form right now.
AARAU however are shocking away from home (W1 D0 L9) but still might grab something here. Looking at it now 1/3 seems pretty miserable
considering Grasshoppers current form.



Galatasary 1/5 v Denizlispor YES
Yet again Galatasarys form shows they have yet to be beaten at home. It has to be said away they are not great but at home
they have been winning pretty comfortably and the last 3 games shows 4-0 2-0 and 3-1. Denizlispor have not won in the last 10 games
losing 6 and drawing 3. Based on Home form here and current away form it's gotta be a big YES.



Now if i take the 8 teams which i reckon are near certainties it works out at

Liverpool 3/10
HIbernina 1/3
Roma 3/10
Salzberg 2/7
Genk 3/10
Panathinaikos 1/6
Sporting Lisbon 1/6
Galatasary 1/5

Totals 5.15/1 so alot of value gone from it but i will give both bets a bash this weekend


Opinions welcome:)

Glenbhoy

good post, good research, i like the bet, i might just join you with it!!

Dun laoire

Glenbhoy wrote:

good post, good research, i like the bet, i might just join you with it!!

You know Glenbhoy i was at it for a bit checking up on all the current form etc.. and guess what. Galatasary and Lisbon both get held to a draw last night. :eek: Feel like a bit of a tit but thats gambling for you:D Anyway i did a small bet with the remaining fixtures so hopefully they can go on and win.

Glenbhoy

No worries DunLaoire, thanks to your post I' now waiting on barca, Roma and some 1/10 shot tomorrow for 250 for a 25 bet!! That's always nice!
Seriously though, it was a damned good post, we're not getting too many on here this past while (where have you gone Pighead?)/ Thanks anyway.

county

an interesting concept,i might give it a go

Dun laoire

Glenbhoy wrote:

No worries DunLaoire, thanks to your post I' now waiting on barca, Roma and some 1/10 shot tomorrow for 250 for a 25 bet!! That's always nice!
Seriously though, it was a damned good post, we're not getting too many on here this past while (where have you gone Pighead?)/ Thanks anyway.

Cheers mate. The draws again have murdered me but i will go at it again. The more i stick to it the more i should hopefully learn about the teams. I know like any sport you need luck but knowledge goes a long way too. Another thing i tried was handicap betting +1. I done it yesterday for the first time and am just waiting on stoke tomorrow. Sunderland 1/5 Wolves 1/8 West Brom 1/3 and Stoke 1/9. I'm in a situation now where i cant lose if i back Barnsley:D I will say though the value is pretty crap but who cares once it comes in right?;) It was only evens money for the 4 teams

Dun laoire

England : Liverpool 3/10 v Sheff utd W

Scotland Queen of the south v Hibernian 1/3 W

Spain: Barcelona 2/7 v Athletic bilbao W

Italy: Roma 3/10 v Reggina W

France: Lyon 1/3 v Sochaux D

Germany: Bayern Munich 4/11 v Wolfsburg W

Austria: Salzberg 2/7 v Grazer AK W

Belgium: Genk 3/10 v Roeselare W

Greece: Panathinaikos 1/6 v Iraklis W

Holland: PSV Eindhoven 2/9 v Groningen W

Portugal: Sporting Lisbon 1/6 v Aves D

Switzerland: Grasshoppers 1/3 v AARAU W

Turkey: Galatasary 1/5 v Denizlispor D

22.44/1 this weekend

Shot down on Friday with 2 draws. Look forward to next weekends fixtures see what we can muster up.

Glenbhoy

Mine came in easily Dun Laoire, was waiting on Barce, Roma and Panathinaikos yesterday. TBH it's a bet I do regularly but not with the research you put into it.

besty

Well well well, I did this last night with an array of games around Europe. All was well until I checked what I thought was a banker result with Inter to win @ 1-4. They cost me my entire accumulator which had reached 28-1. Ugh, irritating. Anyway, it's a tactic I might use again in future. I think the fact that there were alot of cup games on may negate form in a couple of cases so I shall stick to the league in future!

county

besty wrote:

Well well well, I did this last night with an array of games around Europe. All was well until I checked what I thought was a banker result with Inter to win @ 1-4. They cost me my entire accumulator which had reached 28-1. Ugh, irritating. Anyway, it's a tactic I might use again in future. I think the fact that there were alot of cup games on may negate form in a couple of cases so I shall stick to the league in future!

same here,bastards let me down aswell,think the odds were around the 22-1 mark

county

the worst odds on tonights card

Lokomotiv Moscow v Amkar
20th of June 2007 4:00pm
Win-Draw-Win
Lokomotiv Moscow @ 4 - 9
Molde v Notodden
20th of June 2007 6:00pm
Win-Draw-Win
Molde @ 2 - 7
Sparta Sarpsborg v Ham-kam
20th of June 2007 6:00pm
Win-Draw-Win
Ham-kam @ 4 - 7
Lov Ham v Bodo Glimt
20th of June 2007 6:00pm
Win-Draw-Win
Bodo Glimt @ 8 - 13
Bryne v Haugesund
20th of June 2007 6:00pm
Win-Draw-Win
Bryne @ 5 - 6
Moss v Skeid
20th of June 2007 6:00pm
Win-Draw-Win
Moss @ 2 - 7
Sogndal v Kongsvingur
20th of June 2007 6:00pm
Win-Draw-Win
Sogndal @ 8 - 11
Honefoss v Mandalskameratene
20th of June 2007 6:00pm
Win-Draw-Win
Honefoss @ 2 - 5
Brann v Aalesunds
20th of June 2007 6:00pm
Win-Draw-Win
Brann @ 4 - 11
Skovde Aik v Kalmar Ff
20th of June 2007 6:00pm
Win-Draw-Win
Kalmar Ff @ 2 - 9
Hafnarfjordur v Breidablik Kopavogur
20th of June 2007 9:00pm
Win-Draw-Win
Hafnarfjordur @ 1 - 3


Bet Type: Accumulator (11)
Stake per Line: €1.00

Potential Returns: €59.71

zuutroy

An 11 match accumulator at 5/1.... I can't see the sense tbh. Picking favourites because they're favourites will always do you over the course of 11 matches.

county

the stake is 1 euro not 10

zuutroy

ah!....thats more like it! Should've looked a little closer. Good luck!

county

first team playing let me down