poker tracker won showdown % VPIP

aidankk

:mad:

I have had poker office for a long time and had been using it for stt in party and stars etc, with no real surprises.

I just downloaded poker tracker to look at my Paddy Power history and s**t.

I always figured my cash game was ropy at best but i have a bb/100 or 9.1 which i assume is not too bad, but a won at showdown % of 50.06:eek: :eek:

VPIP of 48%

What are others like this seems a shocker to me especially the showdown %..

It is all 6 handed 50-1 NL (EDIT)


I knew i have loads of leaks, i.e trying to make big calls:mad: playing 75clubs like nuts etc..

I have to wonder how the hell i can still make money with these stats.. its over about 10k hands...

RasTa

What's a good/avg won at SD suposed to be?

aidankk

RasTa wrote:

What's a good/avg won at SD suposed to be?

wish i knew but its got to be a lot better that half..

RasTa

Well mine is 50% and my bb/100 is 10.26 over 18k hands. Thought it was ok. Although my vpip is 23%

jimbling

aidankk wrote:

:mad:

I have had poker office for a long time and had been using it for stt in party and stars etc, with no real surprises.

I just downloaded poker tracker to look at my Paddy Power history and s**t.

I always figured my cash game was ropy at best but i have a bb/100 or 9.1 which i assume is not too bad, but a won at showdown % of 50.06:eek: :eek:

VPIP of 48%

What are others like this seems a shocker to me especially the showdown %..


I knew i have loads of leaks, i.e trying to make big calls:mad: playing 75clubs like nuts etc..

I have to wonder how the hell i can still make money with these stats.. its over about 10k hands...

high variance.

your bb/100 is very good.
Your VPIP is waaaaaaay too high? Even if its 6handed anything over 30 is too high.
You're going to showdown too much. Need to know when you're beat and drop the hands earlier. (this is also caused by you're very high vpip)

75clubs is the nuts

aidankk

jimbling wrote:

high variance.

your bb/100 is very good.
Your VPIP is waaaaaaay too high? Even if its 6handed anything over 30 is too high.
You're going to showdown too much. Need to know when you're beat and drop the hands earlier. (this is also caused by you're very high vpip)

75clubs is the nuts

just looked again an realised if i just never played 89s 109s 76s and the like my bb/100 would be nearly double.:eek: :eek: .... Dam these are my fav hands... I think i may be calling down some of these just to make a big call against what i think is a missed ak or something.. Ok live poker at least if im right i can slag the loser...:cool: and say i knew you missed etc.... but online who cares...

i tells ya my eyes are opened by this, i knew i was making it on ppp but just goes to show how bad the standard is, if these stats can still make good money....

aidankk

has anyone got a better showdown % than 50 i have to think it should be near 65, i mean going to the river and only winning half the time against these players..... I know if im playing a live tourney or cash game my win at showdown would be definatly better that 60%

bohsman

Mine is 48

jimbling

actually just checked mine and its 52.5

BobSloane

Hey mine is 38. And I have a BB/100 of 25. Hard to understand how this is a winning style so far but I'm assuming cause of a high enough AF(1.8-1.9) on flop,turn and river that alot of hands are not reaching showdown.(at least i think thats high enough) I've tried to tighten up lately and recent sessions VPIP are about 30 instead of my old 50. Its down to 45 overall lol. This is over around 7k hands so maybe not quite enough yet. So much of poker tracker is gobbledy gook to me. I found this thread had some clues in stuff to look for

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=4946669&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

Anyone with similar links please post so I can try and piece this pokertracker puzzle together!

I think its possible to be a winning player with a different range of VPIP but when it comes to the other stats I'm wondering whats desirable and what is real bad news that needs fixing

The Ace Face

I'm 27.31 VP$IP....I feel I play plenty for 6 handed...mainly in position..double hands from button than UTG....want to play around 25 VP$IP

.I filtered some stats last night to see how I was standing with certain hands. way up with all PPs..but a scary loss ( I mean scary:eek: ) with suited connectors....these bad boys will be cut back considerably.

Ray

dvdfan

My WAS% is 43% after 2500 hands, id imagine the reason you can still be a winning player with 50% is because you might be checking down hands and losing tiny pots or losing small-medium pots but winning more bigger pots.

I wonder can you filter your stats to see pots over x amount of BB and see what your WAS% is for say pots of under $15 and WAS% for pots over $15 (This example might be for 25/50 or 50/1)

LuckyLloyd

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5starpool

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Anything that is much higher than 50% would be reeeaaallllyy good.

Or really bad, as it would indicate mucho tighto play as they say in espain.

Goodluck2me

5starpool wrote:

Or really bad, as it would indicate mucho tighto play as they say in espain.

actually they say "toto nit-o" so...

aidankk

The Ace Face wrote:

I'm 27.31 VP$IP....I feel I play plenty for 6 handed...mainly in position..double hands from button than UTG....want to play around 25 VP$IP

.I filtered some stats last night to see how I was standing with certain hands. way up with all PPs..but a scary loss ( I mean scary:eek: ) with suited connectors....these bad boys will be cut back considerably.

Ray

as far as i can see from my stats suited connectors are the new rag ace, Worthless..

I need to work out a better playing style for these hands asap as the game is no fun without them and certinally no fun without playing a lot of hands..

I wont be able to just cut them out as i wouldn't have the patience to play less hands.. Online poker is boaring enough:mad:,I generally play 2-4 tables six handed, i think i may play better 4 tabling.

Im going to look into the following hands which are my biggest favs and see where the money is going j9s 109s 89s and the top of the heap 75 clubs...:cool:



Looks the the showdown percentage is not bad afterall..

dvdfan

Took this from the link above to 2+2 forum. Whats people opinions on making the continuation bet as default bet and as long as you raise pre-flop you need a good reason not to raise postflop.

Also postflop AF should be at least 2 according to the author pokey. And also he says calling very often is not profitable so you should be looking for a reason to either fold or raise but try not call. Whats the thinking behind this strategy or could someone give me an example or two so i can fully understand it. Also do most agree you should have an AF of at least 2. This article was wrote for full ring in mind but the author says it applies to 6max too without much variation

from 2+2 forum link above wrote:

10. Postflop aggression. Clear the filter. Select the “More Detail…” button above the “Filters…” button. Scroll down. There is a section marked “First Action on Flop After A Pre-flop Raise.” This shows your likelihood of continuation betting. If you add Bet and Raise, the total should be at least 40%. If it’s not, you’re probably giving up too soon on your good hands, and that will cost you money in the long run. Remember: people who cold-call a preflop bet are often in fit-or-fold mode. If you don’t bet, you don’t give them a chance to fold. The pot is already decent-sized, and there’s no reason to give some donk a free look at a turn card that could sink you. If you raised preflop, you need a good reason NOT to raise the flop. Continuation betting should be your default play. Scroll down a bit farther to “Aggression Factor.” Your total aggression factor should be at LEAST 2. No-limit is not a game where you can call frequently and turn a profit. You should always be looking to see if you can raise or fold; only if you have a good reason why you CANNOT raise or fold should you call. As a result, calling should be an infrequent occurrence in your play, which gives you a large aggression factor.

AidenKK wrote:

as far as i can see from my stats suited connectors are the new rag ace, Worthless..

Maybe go through some of your losing hands in poker tracker and see where your losing the money. According to the article on 2+2 suited connectors should have a positive outcome otherwise there is a leak in your play. Good Luck