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A few hands with pocket pairs (JJ+)

  • 22-02-2007 12:17pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭


    Holdem No Limit - $1 BB

    CO ($117.50) [Hero]
    Button ($95.50)
    SB ($62.31)
    BB ($92)
    UTG ($55.88)
    MP ($29.25)

    Hero is CO with Qs, Qh
    Preflop: (6 players, $1.5)
    2 folds, Hero calls $1 and raises $3, Button folds, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

    Flop: Js, 3h, Kh (3 players, $12)
    SB checks, BB bets $7, Hero calls $7, SB folds

    Turn: 2d (2 players, $26)
    BB bets $16, Hero ?? Should I of just folded after the flop?





    Holdem No Limit - $1 BB

    Button ($60.25)
    SB ($56.58)
    BB ($44.75)
    UTG ($26.87)
    MP ($98) [Hero]
    CO ($41.75)

    Hero is MP with Jh, Js
    Preflop: (5 players, $1.5)
    Hero calls $1 and raises $4, CO calls $5, Button calls $5, 2 folds

    Flop: 8c, Td, 5h (3 players, $16.5)
    Hero bets $6, CO calls $6 and raises $30.75 and is All-In, Button folds, Hero???


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭breadmonkey


    I would fold the first.

    Judging by his stack size, the CO is probably one of those guys who's looking to buy in short and double up quick. That makes me think he would rr pf with QQ+ (or less maybe) and could push the flop with any T. If that's the case then I call. Berate me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    fold 1
    call 2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭Iago


    The first hand I fold the turn, but I think I might have re-popped the flop to about $20 or so, he might do this with AJ/QJ or a flush draw, as well as Kx. Re-popping the flop will either take it down or let you know to fold. Waiting for turn leaves you in no-mans land unless a Q falls.

    2nd hand I call, I'm ahead often enough to make it worthwhile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Hand 1 - I would hate to raise on the flop. I'd call the flop. If he doesnt have a king he'll likely slow down on the turn. As played I'd probably fold now without any other info.

    Hand - Call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    wow #2 is such an easy call you shouldnt even think twice about it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 jovirna


    hand 1. call flop, fold turn

    I wouldn't be inclined to raise the flop here very often unless I know my opponent well. His action on the turn will let us know more than him potentially reraising all in on the flop and it will save us money.

    hand 2. call.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Yeah the first one was obviously folded, just wondering if anyone would fold the flop.

    Called the second but think it was a terrible call. What am I beating? AK or A10, J9 maybe, happend to me twice yesterday when I stacked someone with jacks on low flops, these shortys don't seem to push with nothing and he had QQ


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 jovirna


    More times than not you're against a 10 at best here. I wouldn't let that put you off making the same call again in future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭TacT


    hand 1 call
    hand 2 call and call call

    hand 3 kill me now please, oh wait, there is no hand 3, just kill me anyway


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