ticket allocations for saturday?

shmaido

have I heard this right?

25,000 croke park corporate tickets

20,000 lansdowne corporate tickets transfered over

20,000 english corporate tickets...

that leaves..em../*clicks on a calculator*/ around 17,000 tickets to the general public! is that normal? does anybody see something wrong with that picture???

Someone please tell me that this is a complete myth and I should shoot the friend I heard it from, or at least never listen to him ever again.

RuggieBear

well actually...it's usually ZERO to the general public

shmaido

RuggieBear wrote:

well actually...it's usually ZERO to the general public

I don't get it, please explain

roastie

the public don't get tickets , tickets are sent to the four provinces and they allocate them to their clubs , so unless your a member of a club or a corporate sponsor or guest of a sponsor you'll find it very very hard to get tickets

shmaido

^^ right got ya, think i misinterprted the term corporate

Linford

All the 10 year ticket holders from Lansdowne Road get their tickets for the matches in croke park too. Apparently the IRFU's allocation was only an extra 10,000 tickets, some of these went on sale to members of the supporters club but the remainder went to corporate. The clubs don't seem to have been given any additional tickets.

tHE vAGGABOND

why should people who dont play rugby with a club, and who have no involvment at all with a club or province get tickets?

Tickets should go to the schoolkids and people who are involved. If any are then leftover, they should go to the members of the irfu supporters club thing. If by a miracle any are left after that, they are on sale to the public -> and that is what happens

raido9

RuggieBear wrote:

well actually...it's usually ZERO to the general public

Apart from the tickets that went on sale on ticketmaster of course

Amz

They were to the Supporters Club.

MikeHoncho

tHE vAGGABOND wrote:

why should people who dont play rugby with a club, and who have no involvment at all with a club or province get tickets?

Tickets should go to the schoolkids and people who are involved. If any are then leftover, they should go to the members of the irfu supporters club thing. If by a miracle any are left after that, they are on sale to the public -> and that is what happens

Although i agree with you that the first people who should get the option of tickets are people involved with clubs and provincial season ticket holders rugby needs to expand its fanbase in this country so there should be a way for Joe Soap to get his hands on a ticket. I think a great way of doing it would be to release an allocation of tickets on the day of the match for sale at or around the ground with a limit of 1 ticket per person. Thus not only helping to fight off the touts but allowing people who care enough about the game to Q up early on the day and get tickets. Im sure alot of people will disagree with me on this.

Alex S.

MikeHoncho wrote:

Although i agree with you that the first people who should get the option of tickets are people involved with clubs and provincial season ticket holders rugby needs to expand its fanbase in this country so there should be a way for Joe Soap to get his hands on a ticket. I think a great way of doing it would be to release an allocation of tickets on the day of the match for sale at or around the ground with a limit of 1 ticket per person. Thus not only helping to fight off the touts but allowing people who care enough about the game to Q up early on the day and get tickets. Im sure alot of people will disagree with me on this.

There's tonnes of people involved at grass roots who can't get tickets. They should be able to get them and going back to the amatuer era that was the case. But now,the internationals are big business, corporate comes first, then you average club member / player / supporter.
It's very frustrating to think that a large proportion of that crowd on Saturday couldn't tell the difference between a ruck or maul and can get tickets quite easily due to their corporate position in society but the many involved in the lifeblood of rugby cannot get them.
I was lucky enough to get a ticket for the French match and it was an amazing experience seeing Rugby in Croke park, it piddles me off that many a genuine Rugby follower cannot get that experience and many a blazer can.

JWAD

A high-profile sport cannot survive without bowing down to the corporate side of things. Its a simple fact of sporting survival.
Beating the touts is hard no matter what measures are taken.
The Irish Rugby Supporters Club doesn't guarantee anyone tickets but I foresee the ticket allocation to the club being raised as time goes by. It is barely 2 years old after all.
There's only so many who can avail of tickets so the game and its composites has to be looked after first.
No other way to do it apart from a free for all which would be 1000 times worse.
Face it. Supply is heavily outweighed by demand here. Look at the ads on the back of the Irish Times for example in the run up to this game on saturday. They're all Looking for tickets as opposed to flogging them off.

This kind of brings me to another point which gets my wick every season. Every Ireland game at home should be a full house. Be it England playing or Italy playing. Its the fairweather supporters who are the problem. If you support your national team (or province even) you should be there at the games. Not taking a result for granted. Why are fan numbers so polemic when it concerns the Magners League and the Heineken Cup? Magners League not good enough? Only want to see the 'stars' or revel in a 'big' occasion?

jackbhoy

JWAD wrote:

to flogging them off.
Every Ireland game at home should be a full house. Be it England playing or Italy playing. Its the fairweather supporters who are the problem. If you support your national team (or province even) you should be there at the games. Not taking a result for granted. Why are fan numbers so polemic when it concerns the Magners League and the Heineken Cup? Magners League not good enough? Only want to see the 'stars' or revel in a 'big' occasion?

Couldn’t agree with you more on this. The amount of utter cr@p spouted by supposed rugby fans in recent weeks really annoys me. People whinge that "genuine fans like me can’t get tickets but corporate heads can" but what do they define as genuine?? Given the success of Irish rugby in recent years and the inevitable bandwagon that has followed everyone wants to be part of these big occasions but people think they deserve a ticket because they go to odd international or Heineken cup game. The old reverse snobbery of being more deserving than corporate fans, why???

Lots of the people who end up getting corporate tickets are genuine fans too, and I personally know 3/4 people who have been actively playing/supporting club rugby for years who fit into this bracket.

Join a club, buy a ST for your province, go stand in the p!ssing rain & cold in november/december watching grassroots rugby and then, and only then will you have any sort of grievance because you can't get a ticket....

RuggieBear

well, i for one can't wait for the AIB club international tomorrow night. Anybody else going?

LFC5Times

jackbhoy wrote:

Couldn’t agree with you more on this. The amount of utter cr@p spouted by supposed rugby fans in recent weeks really annoys me. People whinge that "genuine fans like me can’t get tickets but corporate heads can" but what do they define as genuine?? Given the success of Irish rugby in recent years and the inevitable bandwagon that has followed everyone wants to be part of these big occasions but people think they deserve a ticket because they go to odd international or Heineken cup game. The old reverse snobbery of being more deserving than corporate fans, why???

Lots of the people who end up getting corporate tickets are genuine fans too, and I personally know 3/4 people who have been actively playing/supporting club rugby for years who fit into this bracket.

Join a club, buy a ST for your province, go stand in the p!ssing rain & cold in november/december watching grassroots rugby and then, and only then will you have any sort of grievance because you can't get a ticket....

Couldnt agree more with this post and i have been saying this for a few weeks now on this forum.
Thats true alot of corporate people know what rugby is,have played it and watched it for years etc.

Im sick of saying to people if they want tickets go join a club(amateur) and get involved and you will get your tickets and if you tell me you are in a club and you do work and dont get tickets than your club is treating you poorly and run badly and leave it and join somewhere else.

I stated in another thread for one of the Home 6 Nations games all our members who applied got tickets and the other Home game around 90-95% got tickets.
They are 2 big games to be getting tickets for.

LFC5Times

RuggieBear wrote:

well, i for one can't wait for the AIB club international tomorrow night. Anybody else going?

Wont make it down in time but will watch on TV,went to the game last year.

Your man Cummiskey from the Irish Times was moaning that RTE are showing the AIB Club International instead of the Ireland U.20 match,depriving people of watching the stars of the future instead watching some amateurs.

I would much rather watch the AIB Club International than an Ireland U.20 match.
These guys work and train hard for the fun of rugby and deserve this chance to be on TV.

If people want to watch the "stars of the future"(Irish U.20) get in their car and drive to the match.

I have never liked him(Cummiskey) re: his articles he can be very biased and ignorant.

RuggieBear

LFC5Times wrote:

I would much rather watch the AIB Club International than an Ireland U.20 match.
These guys work and train hard for the fun of rugby and deserve this chance to be on TV.

well tbh, i'd like to watch both. Club International Match last year was good craic especiall after the terrible start and advantage they gave to Scotland.

raido9

Amz wrote:

They were to the Supporters Club.

They were supposed to be to the supporters club, but anyone could buy them on ticketmaster, whether you were in the supporters club or not

ANXIOUS

raido9 wrote:

They were supposed to be to the supporters club, but anyone could buy them on ticketmaster, whether you were in the supporters club or not

Im not sure if thats right, you recieved an email asking for your supportes number, after you booked the tickets.

Amz

raido9 wrote:

They were supposed to be to the supporters club, but anyone could buy them on ticketmaster, whether you were in the supporters club or not

No Raido, they were only posted to those who could confirm they were members of the supporters club, anyone who was not a member, did not receive a ticket.

hardCopy

RuggieBear wrote:

well, i for one can't wait for the AIB club international tomorrow night. Anybody else going?

I shall be down, I didn't make last years. Should be a good bit of craic anyway.

raido9

Amz wrote:

No Raido, they were only posted to those who could confirm they were members of the supporters club, anyone who was not a member, did not receive a ticket.

Sorry my mistake!

Worrytahs

raido9 wrote:

They were supposed to be to the supporters club, but anyone could buy them on ticketmaster, whether you were in the supporters club or not

The ticket purchases were verified with members. Those who didn't match up, didn't get a ticket. Those particular tickets were then sold to supporters club members who didn't get lucky first time around.

Benedict XVI

Worrytahs wrote:

The ticket purchases were verified with members. Those who didn't match up, didn't get a ticket. Those particular tickets were then sold to supporters club members who didn't get lucky first time around.

Good to see they sorted that one out after all the ho-ha about it.