*General Spoiler* Did David Fury give THE spoiler away in 2005? *General Spoiler*

PullMyFinger!

This has been bumped on the best Lost board thefuselage.com: given last weeks Desmond story line you can tell why, its really caught my eye

This appeared in the April 30 2005 Australian TV WEEK.

"TV WEEK ask's Lost writer and co-executive producer, David Fury, about some of the wildest theories on the series- and finds out some aren't so wild after all.

Theory: The two skeletons in the cave are aviator Amelia Earhart and her navigator Fred Noonan.
David Fury: Wow. Wow, that's a wonderful theory. No, that's not the intent.

Theory: The two skeletons in the cave are Jack and Kate.
DF:Who knows what's possible on the island? There was something that was cut from the episode I did in which Sayid was captured by the French woman Rousseau, and tortured. She said she was with a science team, that she had come from a research vessel. There was a line that was cut from an earlier draft where he said, " What were you studying?" and she said "Time." If you think about that, suddenly you say that's Jack and Kate in the cave.

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This is huge I think, its the only show of his hand he lets slip in the whole interview and compared to the other 2 clowns of the writing team (ok their arrogance is getting to me) he is respected outside of the show and wrote most fans Season 1 favourites.

This is "last episode of last season" big reveal as far as Im concerned. Makes sense in the "circle" sense the show likes to entail.

Haven't a Clue

It's taking a less obvious track as to what the season finale twist'll be this year, but I'd be dissapointed if time travel was it.

Last year was all to predictable, as from almost the third episode of s2, we knew that one of the plotlines finishing up in the finale would probably be the button not being pushed.

S.M.B.

After seeing last weeks episode I started to think that the skeletons are going to be revealed as being two of the current islanders. This old interview certainly adds weight to this theory.

MikeHoncho

My guess would be that its not Jack and Kate but Paulo and Nikki. The writers have said that their will be upcoming events that will give these 2 an iconic status and Im guessing this is it.

fitz

Rose and Bernard would make much more sense.

pokerwidow

Shannon and her step-brother?

Killaqueen!!!

Hmmm...well it has only been one episode focussed on the whole time (travel) situation. It makes sense but I hope it is not the ultimate theorey.

I dount it will be Jack and Kate.

Maybe the two new characters, as they have most probably been created just to kill them off (remember Artz?)

When exactly was that episode with the two skeletons? I can't really remember but I think it was beginning of season 2...? If that's the case I doubt we have much to worry about because I don't think the creators had a clue what they were doing with the overall plot up until season 3.

PullMyFinger!

Given the Pikki episode a couple of weeks back will they turn out to be Adam and Eve?

ZiabR

PullMyFinger! wrote:

Given the Pikki episode a couple of weeks back will they turn out to be Adam and Eve?

I highly doubt it, it may just be a simple case of two of the Dharma group hiding in the cave and living by the shore until age took them.

PullMyFinger!

Fair enough.

However, isnt the company that hired Juliet an anagram for "lost time"? It was said in the Podcast previewing this Juliet episode to watch out for a big clue. Hmmmmm!

ZiabR

Actually i am more interested in the Stones they had on the bodies. The black one and the white one.

Talisman

Killaqueen!!! wrote:

When exactly was that episode with the two skeletons? I can't really remember but I think it was beginning of season 2...? If that's the case I doubt we have much to worry about because I don't think the creators had a clue what they were doing with the overall plot up until season 3.

1x06 House Of The Rising Sun. Kate discovered the two skeletons in the cave after Jack and herself had gone there to get fresh water and then decided to give themselves a scrub in the clean water.

PullMyFinger!

Another bump for this thread given the title of this weeks show

Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There (1871) is a work of children's literature by Lewis Carroll (Charles Lutwidge Dodgson), generally categorized as literary nonsense. It is the sequel to Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, although it makes no reference to its events. In it, there are many mirror themes, including opposites, time running backwards, and so on.

Hmmmmmmm

Miguel_Sanchez

Killaqueen!!! wrote:

When exactly was that episode with the two skeletons? I can't really remember but I think it was beginning of season 2...? If that's the case I doubt we have much to worry about because I don't think the creators had a clue what they were doing with the overall plot up until season 3.

They're have been small events that happened in Season 1 that have been explained in Season 3 so I think you're off the mark thinking that the writers have just been making up the entire show's story arc as they go along.

If there's a big reveal at the end with the 2 skeletons you can be sure that they were put there at the start for a reason. Still not sure if it's gonna be Jack and Kate though.

ZiabR

Killaqueen!!! wrote:

When exactly was that episode with the two skeletons? I can't really remember but I think it was beginning of season 2...? If that's the case I doubt we have much to worry about because I don't think the creators had a clue what they were doing with the overall plot up until season 3.

It was 1x16 afaik. The one thing i do remember about that ep was the Black and White Stones Jack found on the bodies. Then seeing them again in Lockes eyes in Claires dream, man he looked freaky.

People are leaning towards the possibility of the skeletons being Jack and Kate?

PullMyFinger!

Im giving this another bump as I think the pieces are starting to fall into place or at least they will this season. Thats not giving away any spoilers as I try to avoid them. Its a prediction from what we've already seen and the few well thought out theories Ive read on the thefuselage.com

Thoughts?

Killaqueen!!!

Jeff_Lebowski wrote: »

They're have been small events that happened in Season 1 that have been explained in Season 3 so I think you're off the mark thinking that the writers have just been making up the entire show's story arc as they go along.

If there's a big reveal at the end with the 2 skeletons you can be sure that they were put there at the start for a reason. Still not sure if it's gonna be Jack and Kate though.

I thought that the episode with the skeletons was in season 2 (for some reason) and I do think thye were a bit hazy during some of season 2 and early season 3, but I agree that thy've *always* had an overall plan. It's just a matter of resolving the little mysteries and tying everything together.

Rest assured I have every faith in them that they'll resolve things. (Especially the way season 4 is going :eek:) But I have a feeling that when Lost is over and we learn wtf is going on, Lost nerds are going to find some flaws.

Anyway, I don't know what to make of the skeletons now

Charlie

I am starting to think that time is becoming more and more a central theme and/or clue to the mysteries of the lost universe.

I'm not quite sure on all the ins and outs of how such a revelation could play out but, in general, it seems like they are struck in a place where the general laws of physics are being manipulated, and one of the results of this is that time is moving in very odd directions (Desmond's journey, his visions of the future, the agelessness of Richard and so on)

I said it in another thread, but I thin that the polar bear found in the last episode may well be the one Sawyer killed and his placement in the desert is through a result of theses anomalies with time that take place on the island.

We know that the numbers are supposed to form part of an equation which predict the demise of mankind. It is possible that Dharma (and Hanso) sought to prevent this by yielding certain properties that were unique to the Island. As a result of interfering with the island's powers (which Dharma may have underestimated) the Initiative have caused this unbalance of physics which seem to now occupy the Island. (This could possibly explain the problem with pregnant women. Obviously the Hostiles were procreating before Dharma came along. However, after Dharma upset the island's powers, and with it, seemed to unbalance how time plays out, the trimester cycles of pregnant women has been greatly affected, and childbirth becomes impossible)

Killaqueen!!!

I still don't understand how exactly the polar bear got to Tunisia. And how would it be the one Sawyer shot, if it was in a flashback before Charlotte came to the island, and after she had learnt Oceanic 815 had crashed. It doesn't make sense, even if there is no time on the island.

I don't see too many people, Apart from Lost nerds who discuss it on the internet , understanding this as a final answer to what Lost is about. It's far too complicated!

tolosenc

Is there a screenshoy of the nespaper floating around. Someone could scour it for a date.

My one problem with the time thing is Penny. She's not aged either.

Hugh_C

obl wrote: »

Is there a screenshoy of the nespaper floating around. Someone could scour it for a date..

can't see one

PullMyFinger!

It has been blown up and scanned over at the Darkufo site, if they cant find a date no-one can

EKRIUQ

Maybe not time travel, but I really think there's a time loop going on that the losties aren't aware of yet. There's too many time references to ignore! The woman Des talks to in his flashback/out of body experience is wearing an ouberous pendant, the same bunny existing in the same room at the same time in the Orchid video, Ben telling Jack that all this has happened before and will happen again.

Probably more too that I'm not thinking of. I kind of feel like the bunny thing in the Orchid video is really really key to something but I'm not sure what. The cassimir effect Marvin was talking about appeared to provide a way to either send people/rabbits back in time or a way to pull people/rabbits back from the future.

Tie that in with the numbers and the Valenzetti Equation describing when the world would end, and my guess is that the world is coming to an end, possibly due to events on the island like possibly the new visitors getting control of the island's powers. And somebody, maybe the daddies (Paik, Hanso, Widmore, Shepard), keep trying to delay the inevitable demise of humanity by sending specific people back to fix things.

If the island augments your natural abilities and Jack is the great problem solver than maybe Christian has molded Jack to become the person he is for the purpose of cleaning up the mess and saving the world. But is the future already determined and will the universe course correct itself?

I mean, it really seemed like Charlie was meant to die no matter what anyone did, could it be that in every loop on the island they fail to change events significantly so they keep trying again

EKRIUQ

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DeadParrot

BingoBongo wrote: »

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LOL
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