3 hands 3 standard decisions any of them a mistake

Bandana boy

Villain in Hand 1 has been a tricky LAG very aggresive post flop

[Feb 8 21:59:23] : Seat 1 : Villain has $153.25
[Feb 8 21:59:23] : Seat 2 : Hero has $126.29
[Feb 8 21:59:23] : Seat 4 : jaclag has $276.81
[Feb 8 21:59:23] : Seat 5 : martincoxxx has $53.81
[Feb 8 21:59:23] : Seat 6 : shlomih has $48.38
[Feb 8 21:59:23] : Hero is the dealer.
[Feb 8 21:59:25] : jaclag posted small blind.
[Feb 8 21:59:25] : martincoxxx posted big blind.
[Feb 8 21:59:25] : Game [309216] started with 5 players.
[Feb 8 21:59:25] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Feb 8 21:59:25] : Hero has Ad Ah
[Feb 8 21:59:28] : shlomih folded.
[Feb 8 21:59:30] : Villain called $1
[Feb 8 21:59:36] : Hero called $1 and raised $5
[Feb 8 21:59:38] : jaclag called $5.50
[Feb 8 21:59:41] : martincoxxx folded.
[Feb 8 21:59:43] : Villain called $5
[Feb 8 21:59:44] : Dealing flop.
[Feb 8 21:59:44] : Board cards [6d 2d 7d]
[Feb 8 21:59:53] : jaclag checked.
[Feb 8 22:00:02] : Villain bet $10
[Feb 8 22:00:12] : Hero called $10 and raised $20
[Feb 8 22:00:13] : jaclag folded.
[Feb 8 22:00:18] : Villain called $20 and raised $117.25 and is All-in


Hand 2 Villain has been aggresive TAG has not got out of line yet


[Feb 14 23:58:32] : Seat 1 : #1Donk has $111.50
[Feb 14 23:58:32] : Seat 2 : aidankkk has $92.50
[Feb 14 23:58:32] : Seat 3 : 121783 has $106
[Feb 14 23:58:32] : Seat 4 : Face33 has $26.75
[Feb 14 23:58:32] : Seat 5 : Villain has $175.50
[Feb 14 23:58:32] : Seat 6 : Hero has $136.37
[Feb 14 23:58:32] : Face33 is the dealer.
[Feb 14 23:58:33] : Villain posted small blind.
[Feb 14 23:58:34] : Hero posted big blind.
[Feb 14 23:58:34] : Game [223184] started with 6 players.
[Feb 14 23:58:34] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Feb 14 23:58:34] : Hero has Ad 3d
[Feb 14 23:58:38] : #1Donk folded.
[Feb 14 23:58:40] : aidankkk folded.
[Feb 14 23:58:40] : 121783 folded.
[Feb 14 23:58:41] : Face33 called $1
[Feb 14 23:58:43] : Villain called $0.50
[Feb 14 23:58:47] : Hero raised $4
[Feb 14 23:58:49] : Face33 called $4
[Feb 14 23:58:51] : Villain called $4
[Feb 14 23:58:51] : Dealing flop.
[Feb 14 23:58:51] : Board cards [3h 2h Ah]
[Feb 14 23:58:54] : Villain checked.
[Feb 14 23:59:03] : Hero bet $10
[Feb 14 23:59:04] : Face33 folded.
[Feb 14 23:59:08] : Villain called $10 and raised $20
[Feb 14 23:59:16] : Hero called $20 and raised $101.37 and is All-in


Villain in Hand 3 has just got lucky pushing all in on a fd on the flop to get called by better flush draw and hit his hole card
then got unlucky when his flop push with top 2 got called by mid pair tk
Overall he has not played a hand except for those two in last 30 mins


Feb 16 01:12:15] : Seat 4 : Hero has $522.49
[Feb 16 01:12:15] : Seat 5 : RAFFMAN62 has $115.50
[Feb 16 01:12:15] : Seat 8 : BBDefendah has $400
[Feb 16 01:12:15] : Seat 9 : Villain has $272
[Feb 16 01:12:15] : RAFFMAN62 is the dealer.
[Feb 16 01:12:15] : BBDefendah posted small blind.
[Feb 16 01:12:16] : Villain posted big blind.
[Feb 16 01:12:16] : Game [23670] started with 4 players.
[Feb 16 01:12:16] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Feb 16 01:12:16] Hero has Ah Kd
[Feb 16 01:12:20] : Hero called $4 and raised $8
[Feb 16 01:12:21] : RAFFMAN62 folded.
[Feb 16 01:12:24] : BBDefendah folded.
[Feb 16 01:12:25] : Villain called $8
[Feb 16 01:12:25] : Dealing flop.
[Feb 16 01:12:25] : Board cards [Kh Jh 9h]
[Feb 16 01:12:28] : Villain checked.
[Feb 16 01:12:33] : Hero bet $12
[Feb 16 01:12:37] : Villain called $12 and raised $25
[Feb 16 01:12:41] : Hero called $25 and raised $200

ianmc38

Hand 1 I don't like calling but usually do.

Hand 2 looks fine to me.

Hand 3 is marginal. Not sure if i like it.

cardshark202

Hand 1: Grand, instacall now.
Hand 2: Yuck, I prefer to fold or call his flop rr. Now you're effectively bluffing.
Hand 3: Fine and dandy.

ianmc38

cardshark202 wrote:

Hand 1: Grand, instacall now.
Hand 2: Yuck, I prefer to fold or call his flop rr. Now you're effectively bluffing.
Hand 3: Fine and dandy.

3. What's fine and dandy about it? That if he calls we're playing the ace of hearts?

Gholimoli

1.fine
2.im not too sure,i may CR here some times or may just check call some times and other times i may take your line.

3.fine.

Gus Ivey

ianmc38 wrote:

3. What's fine and dandy about it? That if he calls we're playing the ace of hearts?

have to agree with ian. If he calls the huge raise he must have a hit set or flopped a flush leaving you the underdog. Just flat call and see what card/action the turn brings

Goodluck2me

the OP already said the guy got his stack in already with a lower flush draw than the caller, why wouldnt he do it now? we have TP NFD, we have nut outs if we`re behind but could well be ahead.

1) Call
2) just Call re-evaluate Turn
3) Call

dvdfan

1 and 3 look fine. Bit confused on hand 2.

Would this not be -ev?? Villain hasnt got out of line so hes likely only calling with a flush, set or straight here. weve only 6 outs if he does call against any of them, what hand would the villain be re-raising with here that he wouldnt have raised from the small blind, 2 suited cards or set of 3's or 2's look most likely here. Surely he would raise AK from the SB so the only hand that i think your ahead of is A2.

I could well be wrong here, just taught id put it up for debate

kebabfest

There is a comon thread throughtout these hands and that is about controlling pot size.
Hand 1:
Why not simply call his bet instead of reraising ? You have the nuts flush draw and you know he is an aggresive lag.
Hand 2:
Raising pre with Ax will long term get you in bother. In terms of the flop you have are more than likely ahead , but you gotta think will he pay you off with A and a decent kicker. Unlikley he has the K hearts. If the answer is yes than no problems with it
Hand 3:
Again you've fallen in love with the nuts flush draw.
I would actually say you're behind in this situation to KJ or maybe even a made flush.
I much prefer a flat call here.
He only calls if he has a better hand.

ianmc38

Not raising Ax especially in position in unopened pots is a surefire way to cost yourself money.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

kebabfest wrote:

There is a comon thread throughtout these hands and that is about controlling pot size.
Hand 1:
Why not simply call his bet instead of reraising ? You have the nuts flush draw and you know he is an aggresive lag.
Hand 2:
Raising pre with Ax will long term get you in bother. In terms of the flop you have are more than likely ahead , but you gotta think will he pay you off with A and a decent kicker. Unlikley he has the K hearts. If the answer is yes than no problems with it
Hand 3:
Again you've fallen in love with the nuts flush draw.
I would actually say you're behind in this situation to KJ or maybe even a made flush.
I much prefer a flat call here.
He only calls if he has a better hand.

agree with kebab

Bandana boy

goodluck2me wrote:

the OP already said the guy got his stack in already with a lower flush draw than the caller

He did push here not call which is a big distinction

phantom_lord

kebabfest wrote:

There is a comon thread throughtout these hands and that is about controlling pot size.

that's usually with weak vulnerable one pair hands.

Hand 1:
Why not simply call his bet instead of reraising ? You have the nuts flush draw and you know he is an aggresive lag.
Hand 2:
Raising pre with Ax will long term get you in bother. In terms of the flop you have are more than likely ahead , but you gotta think will he pay you off with A and a decent kicker. Unlikley he has the K hearts. If the answer is yes than no problems with it
Hand 3:
Again you've fallen in love with the nuts flush draw.
I would actually say you're behind in this situation to KJ or maybe even a made flush.
I much prefer a flat call here.
He only calls if he has a better hand.

Hand 1
raising here is fine, pretty easy call.

Hand 2
Open raising axs is standard
it would be too surprising for him to flat call with ak pf.

Hand 3
I disagree, I think it's fine.

fuzzbox

Bandana boy wrote:

Villain in Hand 1 has been a tricky LAG very aggresive post flop

You have the Ad, so its much less likely that he is lamping a big draw. However, I still call, but I dont love this spot.
If you minraised to induce this push, then well played and call.

I have no problem with calling the flop if you want to take that line against a very aggressive LAG, which could be a better option in the long run. He might put you on an unpaired lone Ad and fire several barrels drawing very thin as a result.

Hand 2 Villain has been aggresive TAG has not got out of line yet


[Feb 14 23:58:51] : Board cards [3h 2h Ah]
[Feb 14 23:58:54] : Villain checked.
[Feb 14 23:59:03] : Hero bet $10
[Feb 14 23:59:04] : Face33 folded.
[Feb 14 23:59:08] : Villain called $10 and raised $20

So what do you think he is check/minraising you with? Sometimes I go to the felt here sure, but I dont mind calling the minraise and re-evaluating on the turn. You might make better use of your position if you do that.
I usually make a bigger raise preflop or dont raise at all. And you can take a c/c line here if you want against some dudes.

[Feb 16 01:12:25] : Board cards [Kh Jh 9h]
[Feb 16 01:12:28] : Villain checked.
[Feb 16 01:12:33] : Hero bet $12
[Feb 16 01:12:37] : Villain called $12 and raised $25
[Feb 16 01:12:41] : Hero called $25 and raised $200

I think you should call the flop raise.
I would sometimes check this flop, depending on the other guy. I obviously dont hate a bet, but its worth considering sometimes. Nobody ever puts you on the nut flush if you check the flop.
He prolly has a set of 9s

dvdfan

dvdfan wrote:

1 and 3 look fine. Bit confused on hand 2.

Would this not be -ev?? Villain hasnt got out of line so hes likely only calling with a flush, set or straight here. weve only 6 outs if he does call against any of them, what hand would the villain be re-raising with here that he wouldnt have raised from the small blind, 2 suited cards or set of 3's or 2's look most likely here. Surely he would raise AK from the SB so the only hand that i think your ahead of is A2.

I could well be wrong here, just taught id put it up for debate

Can anyone at leats comment on my thinking, im trying to learn as much as i can and id love to hear any comments

Bandana boy

So some results
Villain in all 3 hands is actually me and our "Hero's" are other boardies who i would have very little history with
I posted to see how other boardies would think of there line i am suprised by so much support for it

Hand 1
I think our "hero" has been painted himself into a corner a bit once he decided to re-raise i think that this standard enough call.I do think he should flat call a lag here with such great showdown ability
I have a made flush here

Hand 2
This in my opnion is bad but not awful the chances of me being in here with a strong enough 1 pair to consider calling is zero this is either a bluff or a hand. any hand you beat is defo folding any hand calling has you looking at max 4 outs and again for the privallege he has overbet the flop
I call with set of 2s

Hand 3 i think is awful really awful
our "hero" is either really far behind or really far in front here
He has a really strong hand against anything i might bluff/semibluff with and has taken the opportunity for me to bluff away from me
He has also done this against somebody who will make a strong bluff/semi bluff bet and on top of this he has turned his excellent calling hand into a bluff of 200 into 100
It is possible he might make me lay down a bad 2 pair with this raise but all sets straights and of course flushs will call.
I have Q high flush and insta call

Comments ?

sikes

dvdfan wrote:

1 and 3 look fine. Bit confused on hand 2.

Would this not be -ev?? Villain hasnt got out of line so hes likely only calling with a flush, set or straight here. weve only 6 outs if he does call against any of them, what hand would the villain be re-raising with here that he wouldnt have raised from the small blind, 2 suited cards or set of 3's or 2's look most likely here. Surely he would raise AK from the SB so the only hand that i think your ahead of is A2.

I could well be wrong here, just taught id put it up for debate

I agree about hand2. I personally don't like raising out of the blinds with Arag, without knowing our opponents better. Its a suited A, so it can play well multiway so a check is fine. If our raise gets called we are prob oop.

I don't like the flop push. we aren't getting paid by a strong A enough and will always get looked up by a set, straight or flush. You also have repped a very strong hand by raising from the BB and leading out on a A high flush board, I think most oppoents arent reraising from the SB with a lone heart in their hand.

btw, we have 4 outs dvd