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$2/$4 hand

  • 16-02-2007 6:18am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭


    $2/$4 on Tribeca. Effective stack is $180.
    The villain is new to the table and I've not played with him before.

    Hero has Ad Kh UTG+1

    UTG folded.
    Hero, UTG+1 called $4 and raised $8
    Cutoff folded.
    Button called $12
    SB called $10
    BB called $8

    Dealing flop.
    Board cards [Ah 7s 8s] ($48)
    SB checked.
    BB bet $32
    Hero called $32 (comments?)
    Button folded.
    SB folded.

    Dealing turn.
    Board cards [Ah 7s 8s Th] ($110)
    BB checked.
    Hero....

    What's the plan?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    I raise more preflop and bet more on the flop but as played you have $140 behind or the villain has $140 behind? If its you I bet $70 or so, if its the villain I bet $100


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭spectre


    raise more preflop. Shove flop

    As played, shove turn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    spectre wrote:
    raise more preflop. Shove flop

    As played, shove turn
    i dont like this at all.
    you have the button behind oyu left to act + SB could have checked a big hand + BB could be leading here with a big hand.

    given the stack sizes i like a flat call here though i dont really like the board.
    if i flat call here my intention would be to keep the pot small unless i improve further on turn or river.

    i would check behind here on the turn.
    his check is either a flush draw knd of hand or is a trap with a big hand.
    if its a draw then i dont think he will pay much on the to see the river.
    if he is traping then he will stack you as any bet from you will commit you to the pot.

    he may be loosing some value here from AQ,AJ but then not many people would lead with them hands into 3 players and the pre flop raiser.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    With 40xBBs and AK on an ace high flop, I will generally do my best to get it all in the middle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    With stacks so shallow, I'm all in on flop/turn.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭spectre


    Gholimoli wrote:
    i dont like this at all.
    you have the button behind oyu left to act + SB could have checked a big hand + BB could be leading here with a big hand.

    given the stack sizes i like a flat call here though i dont really like the board.
    if i flat call here my intention would be to keep the pot small unless i improve further on turn or river.

    i would check behind here on the turn.
    his check is either a flush draw knd of hand or is a trap with a big hand.
    if its a draw then i dont think he will pay much on the to see the river.
    if he is traping then he will stack you as any bet from you will commit you to the pot.

    he may be loosing some value here from AQ,AJ but then not many people would lead with them hands into 3 players and the pre flop raiser.


    This is an extremely draw heavy flop. We are likely to have the best hand now, we're quite shallow so protecting our hand is more important than pot control. A pot sized raise is 144 which is almost our entire stack. All in I say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    We have less than half a buyin, so im definitely shoving this flop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭ocallagh


    3X BB raise @2/4 Tribeca doesn't achieve much. You need to make it more expensive preflop. Make it 16 or 20 from UTG if you are going to raise.

    In regards the rest of the hand, with a smallish stack and a good flop, you should be trying to get your money in the middle fast enough. Pricing out a draw is more important than deceiving AQ. And IMO AQ is just as likely to go broke on flop as they are the river.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    Thanks guys. My thinking at the time was the guy who led out wasn't on a draw and probably had a weaker ace, which is why I just called the flop (I thought if I raise, I make my hand fairly transparent and let him play his hand correctly).

    But yeah I can see the problems with just calling, it lets the other two draw cheaply and still looks strong to the guy leading out. He often slows down on the turn even if a scare card doesn't come out. In hindsight, I should've raised the flop.

    Result:

    Dealing turn.
    Board cards [Ah 7s 8s Th]
    Villain checked.
    Hero bet $60
    Villain called $60 and raised $120
    It's your turn.
    Hero has 10 seconds to respond.
    Hero called $78 and is All-in

    Showdown!
    Seat 6 : Hero has Ad Kh
    Seat 4 : Villain has Tc As

    Board cards [Ah 7s 8s Th 6c]
    Villain has Two Pair: Aces and 10s
    Hero has Pair: Aces
    Villain wins $385 with Two Pair: Aces and 10s


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