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Dublin Transportation Office

  • 16-02-2007 1:52am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 642 ✭✭✭


    With the likely disbandment of this body, as part of the overhaul of Greater Dublin's transport which is proposed by the creation of the Dublin Transport Authority, how will the DTO be remembered?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    With dewy eyed sadness...... ?? :rolleyes:


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭BendiBus


    I'll remember the DTO online journey planner. Did they do anything else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,481 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    Mr. Henry always excelled himself in coming up with increasingly bizarre excuses why motorcycles could not be allowed in bus lanes. One was "that they are higher than cars", I mean seriously, WTF?

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Zoney


    ninja900 wrote:
    Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    Mr. Henry always excelled himself in coming up with increasingly bizarre excuses why motorcycles could not be allowed in bus lanes. One was "that they are higher than cars", I mean seriously, WTF?

    Probably more like that there'd be too much chance of a bus running a motorcyclist over, but that can't be admitted or else something would have to be done about cyclists. Cyclists would have separate facilities provided if anyone cared tuppence about their lives on the road. Having them mingle with bus traffic is quite simply, absurd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,481 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Zoney wrote:
    Probably more like that there'd be too much chance of a bus running a motorcyclist over
    No. Illegally or not, many if not most motorcyclists use bus lanes and there is no accident problem. Other countries show that it's safer than filtering on the outside of traffic (cars often u-turn without looking properly and pedestrians can see an approaching bike easier in an 'empty' lane.)
    but that can't be admitted or else something would have to be done about cyclists. Cyclists would have separate facilities provided if anyone cared tuppence about their lives on the road. Having them mingle with bus traffic is quite simply, absurd.
    I wouldn't fancy being a cyclist in Dublin traffic I can tell you - but I'd imagine the taxis would be worse than the buses (?)
    Anyway that overlooks the point that except for 24 hour bus lanes, they're open to all traffic most of the time.
    Agree that separate facilities should be there for cyclists but those that are there seem to be very poor and either full of broken glass, potholes or parked cars - proper facilities cost money and local authorities get no road tax from cyclists...

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Zoney


    ninja900 wrote:
    proper facilities cost money and local authorities get no road tax from cyclists...

    It's not like cyclists don't pay taxes. At the very least, they pay about one fifth of the purchase price of most things as tax (VAT).

    If they are employed, then they pay income tax as well.

    With the state of the country's finances, there really isn't any excuse for public services and local councils being ill-funded.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    ninja900 wrote:
    I wouldn't fancy being a cyclist in Dublin traffic I can tell you - but I'd imagine the taxis would be worse than the buses (?)

    As a regular cyclist in Dublin, I can tell you that most Taxi drivers are actually fine. As professional road users I've found that they have far more awareness of cyclists and tend to be courteous towards cyclists.

    Buses and trucks are much more scary for cyclists as there are major blind spots around these vehicles and there is the possibility of getting snagged and sucked under a passing truck or bus. Bike versus Taxi you might survive with a bus or truck, you stand no chance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DerekP11


    With the likely disbandment of this body, as part of the overhaul of Greater Dublin's transport which is proposed by the creation of the Dublin Transport Authority, how will the DTO be remembered?

    As the pointless waste of time , money and resources that it was. I don't hold out much hope for the DTA being any better. Ireland inc. just doesn't do transport very well. Why? Im saving it for my book.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,481 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Zoney wrote:
    It's not like cyclists don't pay taxes.
    Yes but that's to central government and the local authorities don't get their hands on it (well, only a tiny fraction) whereas they do get to keep most of the motor tax paid in their area. But the huge mess that is local authority funding in Ireland since 1977 is another topic for another thread in another forum ;)

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,577 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    ninja900 wrote:
    they do get to keep most of the motor tax paid in their area.
    Not quite, motor tax goes into the Local Government Fund, which is still in central governemnt control.


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