QQ Two hands ~ relatively low content

Iago

Hand 1

full ring, 9 handed .25/.50

SB ($65) posts Small blind
BB ($112) posts big blind
utg folds
utg+1 ($16) raises to $2.50
MP1 ($135) calls $2.50
MP2 folds
MP3 folds
CO ($52.50) raises to $16
Hero ($87) has QdQs and.......???

call, raise or fold?

Hand 2

SB ($40) posts Small blind
BB ($224) posts big blind
utg folds
utg+1 ($175) raises to $2.50
Hero ($122)Qd Qh raises to $10
MP2 ($57) calls $10
MP3 folds
CO folds
Button folds
SB folds
BB folds
utg+1($167.5) calls $7.50

POT = $29.25

Flop 7d 8s 2s

utg+1($167.50) checks
Hero ($100) bets $22
MP2 ($0) raises to $57 and is all-in
utg+1 ($0) raises to $167.50 and is all-in

flush draw or clearcut fold??

Derek Zoolander

for me it really depends on the other players...have you been at the table for long, are they call machines etc...

first hand is easier to get away from an I fold here....

second hand depending on the read I fold or push....

5starpool

Hand 1 I probably shove here.

Hand 2 is a tricky one, as it is very possible you are up against an overpair to the flop and a flushdraw + overcards from the other guy. Without any clear information though I fold here.

El Stuntman

hand 1 is a clear shove, ul if he has AA/KK

hand 2, if I think 1 or both is solid I lay it down expecting to see 88/77

Rnger

fold both without any reads

ianmc38

Hand 1 - Shovski for me. looks like CO is squeezing.

Hand 2 - Foldski. They both obviously have PPs, one maybe AKs, so I'd fold.

Hectorjelly

Players who have half a buy at a 25 50c table do not know what a squeeze is!

phantom_lord

fold both.

Richard W

I call hand 1. The guy's left with 36 which is roughly the pot after you call. Assuming the initial raiser ain't calling, he will probably shove the flop with JJ+ depending on the board of course. I think if you shove you're getting rid of all hands that aren't AA,KK.

If there's an A or K on the flop, you can easily get away from it.

Oh yeah, if he checks the flop, I shove it.

Hectorjelly

hand 1 isnt a clear anything. If the first raiser had a full buy in it would be a definite fold, now I think its a relunctant fold.

valor

phantom_lord wrote:

fold both.

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HiCloy

I fold both without any other info - half a buyin is still 100 big blinds, although the bet is the exact size of the stack of the UTG original raiser, and he may be trying to isolate him if the original raiser is likely to raise and call a raise with garbage

Iago

Richard W wrote:

I call hand 1. The guy's left with 36 which is roughly the pot after you call. Assuming the initial raiser ain't calling, he will probably shove the flop with JJ+ depending on the board of course. I think if you shove you're getting rid of all hands that aren't AA,KK.

If there's an A or K on the flop, you can easily get away from it.

Oh yeah, if he checks the flop, I shove it.

I think a flat call here is probably the worst of the three options. Firstly I encourage utg+1 to call with almost any two cards, certainly any two cards he would be raising 4*bbs with from that position. If however we raise then he could fold a lot of hands that could cause us problems if we get to showdown.

Secondly there really isn't a flop I like outside of QQx or a full house. If an A or K lands and the CO pushes I have to fold, if a card between J-9 lands and he pushes then I've an even tougher decision to make.

Thirdly, I'm essentially giving the CO 3 free cards, I really don't want to do that QQ, or with any hand to be honest.


anyone agree or disagree and why?

Gholimoli

Hectorjelly wrote:

Players who have half a buy at a 25 50c table do not know what a squeeze is!

lol,
you have to agree with this.:D

ianmc38

Well that's assuming it's Tribeca. If it's another site it's 100BB, not that too many know what a squeeze play is anyways.

Iago

Results

Hand 1

I shoved, I didn't like the raise to $16, it smacked off not wanting to lay down his hand but not really wanting to play a hand either. utg+1 called and was all-in and the CO folded. utg+1 had 6d6s and my hand held up.

Hand 2
I really wanted to call, but folded after taking the maximum time to think about it.

utg+1 had AsKs for the nut flush draw
MP2 had TsTc

neither hand improved and MP2 took it down.