HGV permit system

Victor

There is a demonstation for hauliers on the HGV permit system in the Civic Offices today.

More information http://www.dublincity.ie/living_in_the_city/getting_around/by_car/traffic_management/hgv_permits_and_management_strategy.asp

Sample HGV permit below - the permit number and / or the registration number are the important bits.

>From: "hgv.ie" <hgvpermit@dublincity.ie>
>Subject: Your HGV Permits
>Date: 13-FEB-2007 14:10:04
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PERMIT SUMMARY

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>Permit Number: 528 Date: 13-FEB-2007 Registration Number: 91D1001 Stops: 3
>Truck Company Name: Victor's Trucks
> Journey
> Cordon Entry: North Wall Quay @ New Wapping Street
> Stop 1: tesco - 133 BAGGOT STREET LOWER for 2 visits
> Cordon Exit: Alfie Byrne Road @ East Wall Road (R131)
> Cordon Entry: Alfie Byrne Road @ East Wall Road (R131)
> Stop 2: s2 - 6 GRAFTON STREET
> Cordon Exit: North Wall Quay @ New Wapping Street
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PERMITTED ROUTES

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* Seam Moore Road - Beach Road - Strand Road
* Ringsend Road - Pearse Street - Tara Street
* Mount Street Lower - Merrion Square North
* Baggot Street Lower
* Leeson Street
* Charlemount - Harcourt Road
* Richmond Street - Camden Street Upper - Camden Street Lower - Wexford Street
* Clanbrassil Street Upper - Clanbrassil Street lower - New Street South
* Dolphins Barn - Dolphins Barn Street - Cork Street - Dean Street
* South Circular Road
* Old Kilmaingham - Mount Brown - James Street - Thomas Street - Cornmarket
* St Johns Road West
* South Circular Road - Harrington Street - Harcourt Road - Adelaide Road
* Conyngham Road
* Navan Road - Old Cabra Road - Prussia Street - Manor Street - Stoneybatter
* Prospect Road - Phibsborough Road - Constitution Hill - Church Street Upper
* Dorset Street Lower - Dorset Street Upper
* Ballybough Road - Summerhill Parade - Summerhill
* North Strand Road - Amiens!
> Street
* East Wall Road - Alfie Byrne Road
* North Wall Quay - Custom House Quay
* North Circular Road - Portland Row - Seville Place - Guild Street
* Parkgate Street - Wolfetone Quay - Ellis Quay - Arran Quay - Ormond Street - Bachelors Walk - Eden Quay - Custom House Quay
* City Quay - Georges Quay - Burgh Quay - Aston Quay - Wellington Quay - Essex Quay - Wood Quay - Merchants Quay - Ushers Quay - Ushers Island - Victoria Quay
* The Inner Orbital Route (J1 - J45)

markpb

It will be interesting to see how well enforced the HGV ban is, both at the start and four months down the line. Presumably DCC will have to ask the gardai to find resources to enforce it and not rely on random checks?

SickCert

So reading it correctly the 4 axle trucks can come, go and pass through with no problems?

Victor

SickCert wrote:

So reading it correctly the 4 axle trucks can come, go and pass through with no problems?

For the moment, they will be banned, perhaps in about 2 years, leaving only 2 & 3- axle vehicles and unicycles.

spacetweek

Victor wrote:

For the moment, they will be banned, perhaps in about 2 years, leaving only 2 & 3- axle vehicles and unicycles.

Those pesky unicycles again

BendiBus

Maybe it's just that I'm paying more attention to HGVs since the tunnel opening, but I've noticed a hell of a lot of 4-axle artics recently. Are hauliers adjusting their fleets to avoid the ban or were there always so many 4-axles?

BrianD

What happens to those trucks that have an axle that can be raised off the ground when it is carrying no load? You sometimes see this on the tractor unit or the trailer. Apparently, it's more fuel efficient. Will it be 5 axles on the vehicle or 5 axles that touch the ground?

there are far more 3-axles trailers now then there was a few years ago. AFAIK It's the councils intention to start with 5 and move down to banning smaller HGV's.

SickCert

I imagine more companies putting 4 axles to the max weight??

An interesting comment from a trucker friend at my forum (from the UK) is that 5 axles spread the weight better and are safer.

I cant imagine any EU city ever being truck free?
Will more operators go under OR change their stock for 4 axles, lets face it, its just the trailer. (unless 3 axle rig)

Traffic

Brian, below is the relevant extract from the relevant regs:

STATUTORY INSTRUMENTS No. 638 of 2006

“total number of axles” in relation to a mechanically propelled vehicle, means that all the wheels of the vehicle, the centres of which lie in a vertical plane extending across the full width of the vehicle at right angles to its longitudinal axis is to be regarded as forming a single axle and in determining the total number of axles, any axle attached to a vehicle or attached to any trailer drawn by the vehicle which is capable of transmitting any part of the weight of the vehicle or trailer to the surface of a road is included in the total.