You're A Star - FAKE SHOW

dave connolly

The You're a Star show was just a fake on Sunday night 11th February.

The whole thing was filmed the previous Monday. Shane Downey said so on Galway Bay FM radio.

Even the voting was filmed the previous Monday. That means they must have filmed each contestant in turn getting voted out, and then just used the footage for the one who got voted out.

Then they broadcast it as if it were live and didn't mention it.

Shane Downey said he watched the show in a pub and didn't know the result until he watched it on television.

That makes a complete mockery of the show.

Also Keith Duffy said during the results show that there were lots of votes coming in. How would he have known how many votes were coming in, if it was filmed the previous Monday, 6 days before the voting started.

Creamy Goodness

and it has taken you this long to find out these pieces of crap tv shows are fake?

Frankiestylee

Really? How do they do the emotional goodbyes etc? I find it a bit strange that a show would film 6 or 7 tearful goodbyes etc. It's still a woeful show... but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

connundrum

*enter eerie music*

Brilliant money spinner though, if I were RTE and the production company are laughing all the way to the bank.

DaBreno

dave connolly wrote:

That makes a complete mockery of the show.

That and everything thats ever taken place on it surely.

aidan_walsh

Frankiestylee wrote:

Really? How do they do the emotional goodbyes etc? I find it a bit strange that a show would film 6 or 7 tearful goodbyes etc. It's still a woeful show... but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

You don't get to see the acting auditions on the TV show.

Wheels

It's hardly any worse then RTÉ ringing in the New Year and pretending it's live.

Mossy Monk

yeah, i always thought Jools Hollands Hootenanny was live on BBC2 every year (oh look its not just RTÉ :rolleyes:)

did you not enjoy the broadcast dave?

BuffyBot

I wonder if he's upset because his beloved Shane got voted out..

*shill*

superdudeman007

So is that all there is to talk about in Galway? :rolleyes: I can't believe you're watching it anyway. I mean, the X Factore, Pop Idol etc were bad enough before they broadcast a cheap copy of it from a college campus with Derek Mooney!

kevthecelt

This is truly one of the worst shows on television, keith duffy is a appalling presenter, hes just not natural in the slightest, plus nobody on that show actually have any 'real' groundbreaking talent, its pathetic

Mikosyko

The appeal if this show died years ago. I hope RTÉ don't bring it back for another series because its all just a complete sham. :rolleyes:

They double booked the Helix, so You're a Star had no choice but to pre-record the show. That's why they filmed the reactions of each person.

Wertz

Frankiestylee wrote:

Really? How do they do the emotional goodbyes etc? I find it a bit strange that a show would film 6 or 7 tearful goodbyes etc. It's still a woeful show... but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

You honestly believe ANY of those outbursts are genuine on ANY of these reality/talent show type things?
It's all a put on; young ones hugging each other and cryiong and bawling....they're in a supposed competition....they should be HAPPY that others are getting voted out. But no, they have to appear to be human andhaving love for everyone....it's an cynical excercise in manipulating the wider audience and encouraging them to buy into the whole malarkey and in turn proceed to spend loads on voting by text or whatever...
The whole thing is fake, doesns't matter if it's done live or recorded in someone's attic in early 2003...the gullibility of the general viewing public never ceases to amaze...peope only have trhemslves to blame for being "hoodwinked" like this...

superdudeman007

kevthecelt wrote:

plus nobody on that show actually have any 'real' groundbreaking talent, its pathetic

That includes the judges. Brendan O'Connor has nothing to do with music whatsoever.

superdudeman007

Wertz wrote:

the gullibility of the general viewing public never ceases to amaze...peope only have trhemslves to blame for being "hoodwinked" like this...

But all of these reality shows are the same. Just look at The X Factor - every link gives information about at least one premium rate text service. And in the end, the least talented finalist won.

And You're a Star is just another example of a format being popular in the UK so RTE just have to use it:
Seoige and O'Shea : Richard and Judy
The Afternoon Show : This Morning; every chat show under the sun
House Hunters : Relocation, Relocation; Selling Houses, Escape to the Country, etc etc.
Cabin fever : Big Brother etc
Prime Time : Newsnight
Who wants to be a Millionaire?
Fair City : EastEnders; Coronation Street
Glenroe, Ballykissangel : Emmerdale

Basically, if we lost RTE in the morning (except possibly RTE News) it would have no effect whatsoever.

radiospan

superdudeman007 wrote:

That includes the judges. Brendan O'Connor has nothing to do with music whatsoever.

Ah now, what about this: http://members.fortunecity.com/dubgirl/irish/cdcover.jpg , One of Ireland's finest works.

superdudeman007

Mikosyko wrote:

The appeal if this show died years ago. I hope RTÉ don't bring it back for another series because its all just a complete sham. :rolleyes:

It's only in its fifth season in fairness....

superdudeman007

plazzTT wrote:

Ah now, what about this: http://members.fortunecity.com/dubgirl/irish/cdcover.jpg , One of Ireland's finest works.

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brianthebard

superdudeman007 wrote:

But all of these reality shows are the same. Just look at The X Factor - every link gives information about at least one premium rate text service. And in the end, the least talented finalist won.

And You're a Star is just another example of a format being popular in the UK so RTE just have to use it:
Seoige and O'Shea : Richard and Judy
The Afternoon Show : This Morning; every chat show under the sun
House Hunters : Relocation, Relocation; Selling Houses, Escape to the Country, etc etc.
Cabin fever : Big Brother etc
Prime Time : Newsnight
Who wants to be a Millionaire?
Fair City : EastEnders; Coronation Street
Glenroe, Ballykissangel : Emmerdale

Basically, if we lost RTE in the morning (except possibly RTE News) it would have no effect whatsoever.

The Panel is an Australian show originally. Its not unusual for tv stations to use other formats, in fact its used by most stations. If something is already proven to be popular its less likely to fail when you try it here.

aidan_walsh

superdudeman007 wrote:

But all of these reality shows are the same. Just look at The X Factor - every link gives information about at least one premium rate text service. And in the end, the least talented finalist won.

And You're a Star is just another example of a format being popular in the UK so RTE just have to use it:
Seoige and O'Shea : Richard and Judy
The Afternoon Show : This Morning; every chat show under the sun
House Hunters : Relocation, Relocation; Selling Houses, Escape to the Country, etc etc.
Cabin fever : Big Brother etc
Prime Time : Newsnight
Who wants to be a Millionaire?
Fair City : EastEnders; Coronation Street
Glenroe, Ballykissangel : Emmerdale

Basically, if we lost RTE in the morning (except possibly RTE News) it would have no effect whatsoever.

You have a habit of forgetting that there are people who rely on RTE.

Also, oh come on... Are you saying that all those formats were created in the UK? Because if not, why aren't you bitching about them knocking them off from somewhere else? Hmm? Why not bemoan each UK channel for having their own versions? TV3? TG4?

superdudeman007

The UK versions of those shows were fresh and new to a British audience. By the time they reached Ireland, they appeared stale and dated to 90% of viewers.

Maybe The Panel is an Australian show, but it hadn't been seen before in Ireland so who cares?

sceptre

superdudeman007 wrote:

The UK versions of those shows were fresh and new to a British audience. By the time they reached Ireland, they appeared stale and dated to 90% of viewers.

Emmerdale is basically a ripoff of The Riordans. That's pretty well-known, YTV even sent people over to observe how the OB units worked on the Irish show so they could make their own show modelled on it. Prime Time was an overdue replacement for the axed but terribly titled Today Tonight. Fair City could be seen as a very overdue replacement for Tolka Row, though frankly they were/are both not terribly interesting at all. Of course Corrie came before Tolka Row but the latter is expanded from a 1951 play by Maura Laverty, who also wrote the screenplays for the show so you could argue that it came first. The dual-presenter chat show is more an American creation than a British one. And for most reality TV shows you can blame the Dutch.

lodgepole

superdudeman007 wrote:

Glenroe, Ballykissangel : Emmerdale

Glenroe (as mentioned) came from The Riordans which directly inspired Emmerdale. Ballykissangel is a BBC production.

RTE is a really fine broadcaster. The only problem we have is having access to British televsion (notably the BBC) because it's by far the best in the world, and any channel would suffer by comparison.

The show wasn't live? So what... You'd be surprised at how much isn't actually live, or is faked. It's television. It's entertainment. As long as its audience is entertained, and that audience keeps coming back, then there should be no problem. Just don't watch it. With digital television and the internet you can hardly complain of having no alternative.

Mossy Monk

superdudeman007 wrote:

And You're a Star is just another example of a format being popular in the UK so RTE just have to use it:
Seoige and O'Shea : Richard and Judy
The Afternoon Show : This Morning; every chat show under the sun
House Hunters : Relocation, Relocation; Selling Houses, Escape to the Country, etc etc.
Cabin fever : Big Brother etc
Prime Time : Newsnight
Who wants to be a Millionaire?
Fair City : EastEnders; Coronation Street
Glenroe, Ballykissangel : Emmerdale

Basically, if we lost RTE in the morning (except possibly RTE News) it would have no effect whatsoever.

are you for real. how can you say Newsnight is the same as Prime Time. do Newsnight cover stories of Irish interest?

the rest of your list btw is scraping the barrel

Mossy Monk

superdudeman007 wrote:

The UK versions of those shows were fresh and new to a British audience. By the time they reached Ireland, they appeared stale and dated to 90% of viewers

care to back up that figure please? 90% does seem to be awfully high. if you cant then please STFU

Terry

Mossy Monk wrote:

care to back up that figure please? 90% does seem to be awfully high. if you cant then please STFU

Indeed.
How else would they get the viewers in?
Irish viewers would rather watch Irish acts on Irish tv that watch british acts on british tv. This is the reason that you're a star and its ilk are still around. If nobody watched, then the shows would be cancelled (for the most part anyway).

Wheels

aidan_walsh wrote:

You have a habit of forgetting that there are people who rely on RTE.

Also, oh come on... Are you saying that all those formats were created in the UK? Because if not, why aren't you bitching about them knocking them off from somewhere else? Hmm? Why not bemoan each UK channel for having their own versions? TV3? TG4?

In fairness, it's just typical anti RTÉ rubbish that people who have no real opinion like to spout. Yes most RTÉ TV shows are similar to other shows on TV but pretty much everything on TV has been done elsewhere before (Big Bro, Ugly Betty, even Desperate Housewives could be compared to Knots Landing). The fact that RTÉ do similar shows is neither here nor there, its obvious people aren't coming up with the original ideas. The majority of their output MUST be from independent production companies and they aren't coming up with the new ground breaking ideas then what are we supposed to do?

dave connolly

superdudeman007 wrote:

Maybe The Panel is an Australian show, but it hadn't been seen before in Ireland so who cares?

The panel is complete rubbish. It is embarassing to watch a few people in s discussion trying to be funny when 99% of what they say is not funny at all.

The panel is definetely a show that should get the axe, and the sooner the better.

Running Bing

Lodgepole wrote:

RTE is a really fine broadcaster.

Rte is a terrible broadcaster imo. They take their only bit of real talent, Ryan Turbidy and stick him on a saturday night. Besides that the only well done shows are the clinic, No frontiers and the view(which is stuck on at 11.30 for some reason).

Most of thier flagship shows are terribele

Fair city is awful. The acting and writing are like something that came out of a transition year school project.

Winning streak is an insult to the intelligence in this day and age.

The late late show is a shadow of it's former self, with that cardboard cut-out Pat Kenny not having an ounce of presenting talent, and more cringeworthy moments than watching a jenna jameson flick with you mother and father.

Qusetions and answers. Has to be the most prentencious show on television with some of the most pompous people I have ever come across.

Prime Time. Can be a top quality show at times but a lot of the time it's just standard dull stuff that doesnt really give any new perspectives.

Nationwide. Great lets film a farm for 30 minutes that will get people going:rolleyes:

Crimecall. This says it all for me. So devoid of original ideas they had to revive a show from years ago, that most people just took the piss out of at the time. I know people are gonna say "it's important", but put it on at 3 oclock in the day when people who actiually care at watching. Dont put it on a prime time slot.


Besides that we have the endless re-runs of show me the money and other shows put on at important times and as for that party planning show that was on a while ago I can truly say that was the worst television show I have ever had the misfortune of laying eye's on in my life. An insult to the intelligence. Irish people have moved on RTE.

hot fuss

superdudeman007 wrote:

But all of these reality shows are the same. Just look at The X Factor - every link gives information about at least one premium rate text service. And in the end, the least talented finalist won.

And You're a Star is just another example of a format being popular in the UK so RTE just have to use it:
Seoige and O'Shea : Richard and Judy
The Afternoon Show : This Morning; every chat show under the sun
House Hunters : Relocation, Relocation; Selling Houses, Escape to the Country, etc etc.
Cabin fever : Big Brother etc
Prime Time : Newsnight
Who wants to be a Millionaire?
Fair City : EastEnders; Coronation Street
Glenroe, Ballykissangel : Emmerdale

Basically, if we lost RTE in the morning (except possibly RTE News) it would have no effect whatsoever.

This isn't even close to being an argument..

Every single TV station in the world makes programmes based on formats either invented themselves, or bought from other stations - it's how television works!

RTÉ have bought programme formats and sold programme formats, just like any other broadcaster..

And as for Fair City being a rip of off Corrie or Eastenders - IT'S A SOAP OPERA! Are you saying that any station in the world that makes a soap opera is ripping off the BBC or ITV?!

As you saw the Afternoon Show is a chat show. Again, RTÉ and many other international broadcasters have afternoon chat shows - it doesn't mean they're ripping off formats from the BBC all the time!

Some of RTÉ's output is good, some is bad, some is mediocre - again just like any other broadcaster. I don't think BBC or ITV have perfect records and their budgets are way bigger than anything RTÉ has to play with.

In my opinion it is always striving to improve by buying new formats, trying new programme ideas, commissioning new dramas and hanging onto those programmes that are popular. It may not always get it right, but it does try.

Another poster said why not put Crimecall on at 3pm in the afternoon. That is another ridiculous suggestion. RTÉ is a public service broadcaster and HAS to make programmes like Crimecall. It wouldn't be worth their while to put it on in the afternoon when they can get a peak audience to watch it in it's peak time slot. The object of that programme is to help the Gardai solve cases, not entertain, and they need to try and pull in as much of an audience as they can.

Mossy Monk

Babybing wrote:

Rte is a terrible broadcaster imo. They take their only bit of real talent, Ryan Turbidy and stick him on a saturday night. Besides that the only well done shows are the clinic, No frontiers and the view(which is stuck on at 11.30 for some reason).

Most of thier flagship shows are terribele

Fair city is awful. The acting and writing are like something that came out of a transition year school project.

Winning streak is an insult to the intelligence in this day and age.

The late late show is a shadow of it's former self, with that cardboard cut-out Pat Kenny not having an ounce of presenting talent, and more cringeworthy moments than watching a jenna jameson flick with you mother and father.

Qusetions and answers. Has to be the most prentencious show on television with some of the most pompous people I have ever come across.

Prime Time. Can be a top quality show at times but a lot of the time it's just standard dull stuff that doesnt really give any new perspectives.

Nationwide. Great lets film a farm for 30 minutes that will get people going:rolleyes:

Crimecall. This says it all for me. So devoid of original ideas they had to revive a show from years ago, that most people just took the piss out of at the time. I know people are gonna say "it's important", but put it on at 3 oclock in the day when people who actiually care at watching. Dont put it on a prime time slot.


Besides that we have the endless re-runs of show me the money and other shows put on at important times and as for that party planning show that was on a while ago I can truly say that was the worst television show I have ever had the misfortune of laying eye's on in my life. An insult to the intelligence. Irish people have moved on RTE.

just because you dont like programmes doesnt mean no one else does
people like Fair City, people enjoy Winning Streak, people enjoy Nationwide, people enjoy The Late Late Show, people enjoy Prime Time

i dont like Ryan Tubridy as a presenter (you do) but i wont call for him to be gotten rid of. why? because people enjoy him

you people are boring. RTÉ have to provide for everyone, not just you

Wheels

hot fuss wrote:

This isn't even close to being an argument..

At last, someone with sense.

Chimpanzee-that

Lads it was no secret. I knew it was filmed during the week. They filmed 8 different result combinations though and ALL THE VOTING WAS LIVE.
It does not make a mockery of the show. It makes no difference whatsoever. Many people didnt even notice and everything was done fairly.

If the show is not to your taste then fair play dont watch it....
but there was nothin out of order done by filming it early...

superdudeman007

Babybing wrote:

Rte is a terrible broadcaster imo. They take their only bit of real talent, Ryan Turbidy and stick him on a saturday night. Besides that the only well done shows are the clinic, No frontiers and the view(which is stuck on at 11.30 for some reason).

Most of thier flagship shows are terribele

Fair city is awful. The acting and writing are like something that came out of a transition year school project.

Winning streak is an insult to the intelligence in this day and age.

The late late show is a shadow of it's former self, with that cardboard cut-out Pat Kenny not having an ounce of presenting talent, and more cringeworthy moments than watching a jenna jameson flick with you mother and father.

Qusetions and answers. Has to be the most prentencious show on television with some of the most pompous people I have ever come across.

Prime Time. Can be a top quality show at times but a lot of the time it's just standard dull stuff that doesnt really give any new perspectives.

Nationwide. Great lets film a farm for 30 minutes that will get people going:rolleyes:

Crimecall. This says it all for me. So devoid of original ideas they had to revive a show from years ago, that most people just took the piss out of at the time. I know people are gonna say "it's important", but put it on at 3 oclock in the day when people who actiually care at watching. Dont put it on a prime time slot.


Besides that we have the endless re-runs of show me the money and other shows put on at important times and as for that party planning show that was on a while ago I can truly say that was the worst television show I have ever had the misfortune of laying eye's on in my life. An insult to the intelligence. Irish people have moved on RTE.

Thank you

BTW : RTE hang on to shows even if they're not successful. How many people here (other than the guy who started the thread) actually watch You're a Star?

Winning Streak, Fair City etc. What a waste!

Why don't they replace all these shows with a test card and replace them with decent shows in the morning and a news service that starts before 1pm and goes on for more than 12 minutes.

Rb

BuffyBot wrote:

I wonder if he's upset because his beloved Shane got voted out..

*shill*

Lol, yeah, though he claims he voted for one of the girls, yet has been going on about Shane since he joined Boards...

Dave/OP: Who really gives a shíte?Or, should I say, why do you seem to care so much about such a load of shíte?

Rb

dave connolly wrote:

The panel is complete rubbish. It is embarassing to watch a few people in s discussion trying to be funny when 99% of what they say is not funny at all.

The panel is definetely a show that should get the axe, and the sooner the better.

Lol, yet you're a keen supporter/fan of You're A Star...you do know that means your opinion on The Panel (or any other programme, for that matter) is then worthless by default, don't you?

Babybing wrote:

They take their only bit of real talent, Ryan Turbidy

LMAO.

lodgepole

superdudeman007 wrote:

How many people here (other than the guy who started the thread) actually watch You're a Star?

It doesn't matter how many people here watch it. A lot of people watch it, thus they can sell advertising, thus it gets picked up each year.

Fair city is awful. The acting and writing are like something that came out of a transition year school project.

No different to Brookside in terms of quality. It's fine, gets viewer, sells advertising. Also keeps a lot of actors in work, for better or worse.

Winning streak is an insult to the intelligence in this day and age.

I agree with this, the format is very stale. It reaks of a college project.

The late late show is a shadow of it's former self, with that cardboard cut-out Pat Kenny not having an ounce of presenting talent, and more cringeworthy moments than watching a jenna jameson flick with you mother and father.

The Late Late, during the Gay Byrne era was one of the best chat shows in the world. People will moan about him, but it was incredible. Watch some of the archived stuff, some of the interviews, some of the topics... It's incredible. Pat Kenny is rubbish in comparison and doesn't have televised interviews down as well as he does radio ones (where he is excellent), but he's improved a lot in his years on the show. It serves its purpose perfectly well, it's decent entertainment on a Friday night and better than the competition available.

Jenna Jameson with your parents? What age are you?

Qusetions and answers. Has to be the most prentencious show on television with some of the most pompous people I have ever come across.

No it's not. It's good stuff.

Prime Time. Can be a top quality show at times but a lot of the time it's just standard dull stuff that doesnt really give any new perspectives.

The quality of Prime Time is at the hands of current events. There have been some stellar Prime Times.

Nationwide. Great lets film a farm for 30 minutes that will get people going:rolleyes:

What part of the country are you from? Nationwide is there to appeal to people outside of cities, and particularly outside of Dublin. It's generally of no interest to me, but it gets a lot of viewers. It also keeps a lot of people in employment.



RTE is one of the best broadcasters in the world, in terms of content. Try watching television in continental Europe, the US, Canada or Australia. Don't even bother with Asia.

Dodge

RTE's main problem is it proximity to tthe BBC (probably the best broadcastor in the world), and the Irish fascination with all things British. I think the term is cultural cringe. Sure some of their output is poor but every broadcastor in the world shows rubbish.

Personally I've never watched You're A Star but I'd be surprised if it wasn't RTE's biggest money spinner (Cheap to film, huge audiences, viewer voting etc). The orginal Popstars programme was done by New Zealand TV, and ITV "ripped it off" BTW

Oh and RTE's current affairs programming is exceptional. If you've any interest in current affairs/politics Questions & Answers and Primetime are essential viewing.

hot fuss

superdudeman007 wrote:

Thank you

BTW : RTE hang on to shows even if they're not successful. How many people here (other than the guy who started the thread) actually watch You're a Star?

Winning Streak, Fair City etc. What a waste!

Why don't they replace all these shows with a test card and replace them with decent shows in the morning and a news service that starts before 1pm and goes on for more than 12 minutes.

Simply because YOU or a lot of people who write on boards.ie don't like a show, it doesn't mean it isn't successful for RTÉ. Define successful...

I don't think the over half a million viewers who tune into Fair City on a regular basis would agree with you there! Winning Streak also gets great figures, as does You're a Star.

Personally I never watch Big Brother, X Factor, Pop Idol, Fair City, Emmerdale, Lost and many other shows.. I very much doubt I'm alone in these choices also. Does this mean they're not all hugely successful programmes for the broadcaster that's airing them?!

Wheels

superdudeman007 wrote:

BTW : RTE hang on to shows even if they're not successful. How many people here (other than the guy who started the thread) actually watch You're a Star?

Rubbish, RTÉ are notororious for not renewing or cancelling shows that don't perform well. While it might be rubbish You're A Star got over 700,000 viewers just before Christmas, that's one of the highest audiences of the year and for a non sporting event it's fantastic. You don't really seem to understand television and how it works. RTÉ are a PSB and they need to make money from advertising (like most other Public Service Broadcasters), if a show gets high ratings they can charge more for advertising. If you disagree with this practise, write to the half a million that watch these shows, and let them know how frustrated you are.

hot fuss

Wheels wrote:

Rubbish, RTÉ are notororious for not renewing or cancelling shows that don't perform well. While it might be rubbish You're A Star got over 700,000 viewers just before Christmas, that's one of the highest audiences of the year and for a non sporting event it's fantastic. You don't really seem to understand television and how it works. RTÉ are a PSB and they need to make money from advertising (like most other Public Service Broadcasters), if a show gets high ratings they can charge more for advertising. If you disagree with this practise, write to the half a million that watch these shows, and let them know how frustrated you are.

Woo Hoo - someone who knows what they're talking about!

Bigger Audience = Higher Advertising Rates = More Moolah for RTE = Successful Show

Simple really, isn't it?!!

cooperguy

I know one of the contestants, last weeks was the only week that will be recorded and that was because the Helix was booked.