How often do you lay this down?

myflipflops

Fitz 1/2 holdem.

MP - 500ish - clearly a good player
CO - 280ish - has been pretty tight but also can play
UTG - 225ish - played a decent few hands, has tabled big hands and the odd bluff.

CO has 33

MP raises to 10 and gets 3 callers including CO and UTG.

Flop comes 234 rainbow (Pot 45)

Checked to MP who bets 35 and the CO calls. UTG raises to 100. MP thinks for a second then raises the pot. CO dwells for a long time with his set then makes a crying lay down.

Question: how often do you lay this down?

Rb

Throw away middle set on the flop?Never tbh.

Lazare

Terrible laydown.

From your description of UTG, he'll be C/raising with a bare Ace there often enough. MP's re-raise screams of an overpair. More like a scared laydown than a crying one tbh.

If UTG is the type of player that will CR the flopped nuts, or if it's set over set, then so be it, re-load, but CO is ahead far too often to lay down here.

Solksjaer

well the 100 bet looks like someone hit a strt to me to be honest, the amount of players that play suited connectors even to a raised pot eg 5 6 in the fitz, means you/player X could have made the right decision. Having said when i hit my sets i cough up chips (bit of a tell there:) ) so I'd have called .
The betting patterns and your reads on the players are important and does make this hard . Cash game = call tourny = big dwell 50/50 for me...sob call


Dont think Ive ever folded a set, apart from omaha.

LuckyLloyd

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Goodluck2me

LuckyLloyd wrote:

As Valor might say:

This is a super easy shove.

lloyd thats completly wrong, he would never go above 4 words.

Pretty easy Shove here.

valor

never

LuckyLloyd

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phantom_lord

lol, yeah I'd shove.

myflipflops

I would also have shoved here. It turned out to be technically the right laydown as UTG (me) had 5s6s for the nuts and the board didn't pair. I cetainly wouldn't wouldnt be check raising with a bare ace here and the others would have know this but i didn't know how to describe my table image from his point of view.

I was pretty happy with how i played this and i think i probably found the one player in a hundred who would lay this down.

ianmc38

pwhite587 wrote:

I would also have shoved here. It turned out to be the right laydown as UTG (me) had 5s6s for the nuts and the board didn't pair. I cetainly wouldn't wouldnt be check raising with a bare ace here and the others would have know this but i didn't know how to describe my table image from his point of view.

I was pretty happy with how i played this and i think i probably found the one player in a hundred who would lay this down.

i'm guessing nit...

fuzzbox

pwhite587 wrote:

I would also have shoved here. It turned out to be the right laydown as UTG (me) had 5s6s for the nuts and the board didn't pair. I cetainly wouldn't wouldnt be check raising with a bare ace here and the others would have know this but i didn't know how to describe my table image from his point of view.

I was pretty happy with how i played this and i think i probably found the one player in a hundred who would lay this down.

did he show you 33 while laying it down?

If you had led for pot, he prolly would have raised, and you could have got all-in.

DapperGent

Fold? lol. I can't call fast enough. It's the Fitz like.

Even if the nuts is out there we will fill up about 1/3 of the time and we're looking at a three way pot. We're only in bad shape if a higher set is out there. That's not even thinking about the amount of times we're ahead of both players here.

This is a terrible fold.

Marq

I think you played this flop really badly.

"Pot"
"Pot"
"Pot"
"Pot"
""I have a set"
"I have the nuts"
"wp"

Sparky1808

Was playing cash not so long ago at my local poker club.

Guy in mid position limps for £2, SB pots it for £12. I call in BB to see a flop with 33. and the other guy then calls for the extra £10.

Flop comes 2x 3x 4x ....SB bets £25, I call curious to see what the turn brings as its a dangerous board IMO, although looking back at this I should of raised to see where I stood.

Anyway the limper then makes it £75 to go (and has about £200 more behind him) ...the SB then pushes all in for around £300, and I don't even have to think about it. I fold. SB had 44, and limped had 56s.

Car crash written all over it, ironically enough the board paired and was I glad I was out of it!

fuzzbox

Sparky1808 wrote:

Was playing cash not so long ago at my local poker club.

Guy in mid position limps for £2, SB pots it for £12. I call in BB to see a flop with 33. and the other guy then calls for the extra £10.

Flop comes 2x 3x 4x ....SB bets £25, I call curious to see what the turn brings as its a dangerous board IMO, although looking back at this I should of raised to see where I stood.

Anyway the limper then makes it £75 to go (and has about £200 more behind him) ...the SB then pushes all in for around £300, and I don't even have to think about it. I fold. SB had 44, and limped had 56s.

Car crash written all over it, ironically enough the board paired and was I glad I was out of it!

You can see the genius written all over every move you made. Super job.

myflipflops

ianmc38 wrote:

i'm guessing nit...

whats nit?

he showed someone else the 33 so he wasn't lying.
By the by, MP declared he had AA but didnt show. I believed him as what the hell else is he doing this with.

Marq, how would you have played this? Mp was the derek guy to my right and the laydown guy was the ginger nordy bloke.

Goodluck2me

Sparky1808 wrote:

Was playing cash not so long ago at my local poker club.

Guy in mid position limps for £2, SB pots it for £12. I call in BB to see a flop with 33. and the other guy then calls for the extra £10.

Flop comes 2x 3x 4x ....SB bets £25, I call curious to see what the turn brings as its a dangerous board IMO, although looking back at this I should of raised to see where I stood.

Anyway the limper then makes it £75 to go (and has about £200 more behind him) ...the SB then pushes all in for around £300, and I don't even have to think about it. I fold. SB had 44, and limped had 56s.

Car crash written all over it, ironically enough the board paired and was I glad I was out of it!

playing in the fitz one night i had 89h flop was ThQhJh, guy pots it, i think for a second and fold it was obvious it was a double bluff and the bad beat wasnt worth wrecking my table image for playing with non-pair hands., he was bound to have a royaler. turned out he has the Kh but the Ah came on the river because we chased the rabbit and so it was the right fold....

Lazare

goodluck2me wrote:

playing in the fitz one night i had 89h flop was ThQhJh, guy pots it, i think for a second and fold it was obvious it was a double bluff and the bad beat wasnt worth wrecking my table image for playing with non-pair hands., he was bound to have a royaler. turned out he has the Kh but the Ah came on the river because we chased the rabbit and so it was the right fold....

LMAO

LuckyLloyd

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