I suck (hand analysis)

Richard W

1.
Blinds are 25-50, stacks are 2500, folded to CO who limps. I limp with 33, SB completes, BB makes it 250 total. CO folds, I call, SB folds.

Is this just terrible?

2.
My stack is now 1700 same level, folded to me in late position, I raise with TT to 200, BB is my only caller. Flop K53, or something to that effect. He bets 200 into a pot of 425. I make it 600. He calls.

Bad re-raise? Yeah, now I know he has the king, but is it ever worth it to chuck in a raise here to find out?

3.
Next hand after the TT one. I think my image sucks at this stage, and I also only have 1250. I raise to 200 with JJ. CO calls the 200, Button makes it 700. Blinds fold.

Is this a push? This is pretty similar to my last thread I think. I'd put the guy on the same range. TT+,AQ+. Seems to be a solid enough player.

Embarrassingly enough, this is all in the first round so I don't really have any reads on anyone.

Backstreet Moyes

Limp callin raise with 33 is not terrible if u tink u will take his stack if you hit. The hand with TT i think your raisin too small for a hand that needs protection as theirs nearly always going too be an over card puttin doubt about your hand. Raise is fine too find out where you stand. The hand with JJ again like the TT id make it 300 + . Here after the reraise id prob lash it in and hope he has AQ or Ak or better a lower pair. If you had more chips you could call and push a flop with no A or K. I dont see anything terrible about these hands except you need too protect your pairs more .

sikes

1. Early on people tend to play tight, so while you may be getting the implied odds to hit your set, you have to know that he will pay you off.

2. Call flop. He is rarely playing JJ, QQ like this, under pairs to your TT might throw a bet in. So call and reevaluate the turn. If he leads again, fold. Raising with any K here on the flop would also suck.

Raise size is fine preflop.

3. push everytime if thats his range

sikes

Nuts102 wrote:

The hand with TT i think your raisin too small for a hand that needs protection as theirs nearly always going too be an over card puttin doubt about your hand.

you dont want to discourage action. nearly always an overcard? i think its 50% of the time but im not sure.

Nuts102 wrote:

Raise is fine too find out where you stand.

its horrible when we are this short. I think its bad in general but we wont get into that argument.

Nuts102 wrote:

The hand with JJ again like the TT id make it 300 + .

thats a pretty gross raise preflop. We dont want to discourage action with these hands. We want people to call who are weaker than us.

Nuts102 wrote:

If you had more chips you could call and push a flop with no A or K.

but then we are losing value on our hand. You have to get as much in preflop against his range. we lose AT+ on the flop and only get "paid" by hands that beat us.

Richard W

sikes wrote:

1. Early on people tend to play tight, so while you may be getting the implied odds to hit your set, you have to know that he will pay you off.

I most definitely wasn't getting implied odds to hit a set here to be honest. But if he checked it I figured I'd bet it, provided it was a raggy flop. There are a load of flops out there that won't be good for his hand. Is this just a bad way to play low pocket pairs? Should I only be getting involved with them for set value?

sikes wrote:

2. Call flop. He is rarely playing JJ, QQ like this, under pairs to your TT might throw a bet in. So call and reevaluate the turn. If he leads again, fold. Raising with any K here on the flop would also suck.

Raise size is fine preflop.

What do you mean by raising with any K? Like, if he checked to me should I check it too?

Thanks for your response btw.

sikes

Richard W wrote:

I most definitely wasn't getting implied odds to hit a set here to be honest. But if he checked it I figured I'd bet it, provided it was a raggy flop. There are a load of flops out there that won't be good for his hand. Is this just a bad way to play low pocket pairs? Should I only be getting involved with them for set value?

yeah i would only really get involved for set value early on. you dont know much about the villain. if you dont think he will pay you off on your set, then you should fold.

Richard W wrote:

What do you mean by raising with any K? Like, if he checked to me should I check it too?

was just saying that if villain bets out and you have a K you should only call. theres no obvious draw and you will only get called by a hand that beats you yet you lose value on the under pairs who might put another bet in on the river.

If its checked to you I bet.

Richard W

sikes wrote:

was just saying that if villain bets out and you have a K you should only call. theres no obvious draw and you will only get called by a hand that beats you yet you lose value on the under pairs who might put another bet in on the river.

If its checked to you I bet.

Ah ok, that makes more sense. Cheers.

Goodluck2me

Nuts102 wrote:

Raise is fine too find out where you stand.

no its not, in fact its very very bad. anyone with a worse hand folds and nobody with a better hand folds. never raise for information, raise for value or to bluff or maybe to protect a vulnerable hand, but never for information.