Changes in VRT

2cv

Hi,

I've heard the government is bringing in changes in the VRT rates for classic and vintage cars. Does anyone have more information on this?

Thanks

mike65

I have a sinking feeling.

1977 Mercedes 280SE Automatic

Which model? w116 or w123?

Mike.

2cv

W116 of course :-) The W123 would be the 280E, not the SE :-)

mike65

How common of me not to spot that!

Mike.

2cv

Exactly!! :-) (only messin')

I only brought it in last weekend. The car is MINT!!! :-)

MercMad

Any pictures ???

I saw bronze coloured one in Galway yesterday !

2cv

The pictures are still on my camera... Will upload them tonight when i get home...

Went to see a local Mercedes specialist here in Co. Cork. He said it has been years since he last saw one of those in such a good condition :-)

2cv

MercMad wrote:

Any pictures ???

I saw bronze coloured one in Galway yesterday !

Is that the one on Belgian plates?

andreas_220D

2cv wrote:

I've heard the government is bringing in changes in the VRT rates for classic and vintage cars.

where did you hear/read that? Told by someone who knows someone who was told by someone?

MercMad

Is that the one on Belgian plates?

........no its had something like 78 G >>> on it, horrible plates in fact !

2cv

andreas_220D wrote:

where did you hear/read that? Told by someone who knows someone who was told by someone?

No, i was told directly by someone who imported a Capri and was charged €950 for it!!

2cv

MercMad wrote:

........no its had something like 78 G >>> on it, horrible plates in fact !

Ok... I've heard of one in Galway on Belgian plates, but i personally haven't seen it yet....

2cv

MercMad wrote:

Any pictures ???

Here they are...

edit: some pics removed @ OPs request

Traumadoc

2cv wrote:

No, i was told directly by someone who imported a Capri and was charged €950 for it!!

Where did he bring it in from- if its from outside the EU they add duty and vat no matter how old.

PaulK_CCI

Traumadoc wrote:

Where did he bring it in from- if its from outside the EU they add duty and vat no matter how old.

I would reckon the 'change' that is being referred to is the way the VRO offices are now treating cars that have an added market value or exclusivity, as opposed to considering them as just a 20 or 25 year old car. (actually this is happening since the last year or two!). This has always been affecting the status of cars like Porsches, Lotus, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, etc, but they have extended this category to some of the 'lesser' exclusive models, the likes of Capri's, Mercedes, and basically anything that you would consider as a sports car or sought after classic. So don't assume that any 20 or 25 year old car will be just the minimum fee of 315 euro's VRT, you could be in for a surprise. Always check the VRO office if you bring in a car younger than 30 years.

Mind, this would only affect cars YOUNGER than 30 years. The 30 year rule is, to my knowlegde, still unaffected, and these would still be just 50 euro's to bring in, regardless of value or make.

mike65

2cv- nice car (now some inside pix please!) but I worry about those wheel arches, are they concealing something nasty. I'd get them off and give the paint a good careful clean up. Fancy water traps those things.

Mike.

junkyard

Are you going to take off the stick on stripe on the side of it?

2cv

Traumadoc wrote:

Where did he bring it in from- if its from outside the EU they add duty and vat no matter how old.

car was brought in from UK

2cv

mike65 wrote:

2cv- nice car (now some inside pix please!) but I worry about those wheel arches, are they concealing something nasty. I'd get them off and give the paint a good careful clean up. Fancy water traps those things.

Mike.

It's rust free underneath those arches :-) At least as far as i can see :-)

2cv

junkyard wrote:

Are you going to take off the stick on stripe on the side of it?

Yep... I hate it as well :-)) I'll get round to it... Doing some stuff to my 2CV first though... The Merc will be off the road for a while as i'm waiting for its 30th birthday, which i think is september or october. I won't be re-registering before that!!

2cv

Inside pics:

RobAMerc

Thats a beauty 2CV well ware.

I bet it purrs like a kitten and rides like a magic carpet!

If not scared of grease and oil, take something apart and marvel at the engineering - I started when changing the numberplates the holder thingy is a masterpiece !

mike65

RobAMerc Get help, get help!

Mike.

2cv

RobAMerc wrote:

Thats a beauty 2CV well ware.

I bet it purrs like a kitten and rides like a magic carpet!

If not scared of grease and oil, take something apart and marvel at the engineering - I started when changing the numberplates the holder thingy is a masterpiece !

I'm not scared of grease and oil, but i'm not a mechanic either :-) I think that for the time being i'll stick to what i know, my 2CV :-)

MercMad

Looks lovely !

Well wear !!

Oshbosh

So does the 30 year rule still apply where cars older than 30 years are exempt from VRT and pay minimal road tax (50euro i think )?

I checked the revenue.ie website and there was no mention of it although i seem to remember reading it there before.

On the same topic does anyone know if a car older than 30 years needs to go through the NCT before it can be registered in Ireland ? I'm planning register my MG here, it currently has a UK MOT but not sure what happens here.

PaulK_CCI

Oshbosh wrote:

So does the 30 year rule still apply where cars older than 30 years are exempt from VRT and pay minimal road tax (50euro i think )?

I checked the revenue.ie website and there was no mention of it although i seem to remember reading it there before.

On the same topic does anyone know if a car older than 30 years needs to go through the NCT before it can be registered in Ireland ? I'm planning register my MG here, it currently has a UK MOT but not sure what happens here.

Like I mentioned in my reply earlier in the thread, the 30 year rule is NOT affected in any way and no changes have been made that I am aware of. So any vehicle for which the date of first registration is earlier than the exact date 30 years ago (i.e as of today, the 14th february 1977) is
a/ exempt from VRT (only a 50 euro admin fee applies),
b/ pays a reduced annual road tax of approx 44 euro;s, and
c/ is exempt from the NCT test.

Oshbosh

cheers, didn't see that in your earlier post, sorry for the hassle

1275gt

PaulK_CCI wrote:

So any vehicle for which the date of first registration is earlier than the exact date 30 years ago (i.e as of today, the 14th february 1977) is a/ exempt from VRT (only a 50 euro admin fee applies),
b/ pays a reduced annual road tax of approx 44 euro;s, and
c/ is exempt from the NCT test.

It doesnt matter how many times I hear that, it still brings a very large smile to my face anbody whos ever brought a mini for an NCT (regardless or age and condition) will understand!!

8~)

Worth a mention that most insurance companies will look for a cert of roadworthiness on a +30 year old car, be it a garage report or NCT.

My logic is to just go and get an NCT cert - where else are you going to get someone to check your car over and highlight dodgy areas with yellow paint for 50 quid?

The AA charges over 200 for a car inspection.

mike65

When its put like that..!

Mike.

Kersh

Its a magic rule isnt it...







50 euro VRT and 42 euro a year road tax.... :cool:

MercMad

Do you think if you had your calssic NCT'd that they would keep it on the system and send you reminders every two years ??

I agree its an excellent way of having the safety of brakes/shocks/steering/chassis etc checked !