Quick Question

Conor108

If you fail your irish, do you fail the JC?

qwertplaywert

yep

same if you fail english or maths


q-if you pass all these 3 , how many other subjects need to be failed in order to fail the junior?

PurpleFistMixer

Serious? I'm pretty sure one of my friends got an E in maths and still got her JC...

Chillwithcian

qwertplaywert wrote:

yep

same if you fail english or maths


q-if you pass all these 3 , how many other subjects need to be failed in order to fail the junior?

Nope not true, i know someone who got an E in Irish and an F in maths (both honours level) and still recieved the JC)

spurious

The 'fail Irish, fail the whole thing' policy was done away with about 30 years ago AFAIK. Many students don't even sit Irish.

From the SEC's point of view, for statistics etc., 5 passes at Ordiinary Level is taken as the 'pass' mark for Junior Cert..

challengemaster

you can fail the jc now?

Acid_Violet

Now now children. We all know that the JC doesn't matter. Don't let any of this teacher scare-mongering get to you or there'll be words.

diamonds&cream

whether the JC matters or not is questionable, in 1 school the JC results are used for class placements for LC, if you don't reach a particular grade in a compulsory subject you will be placed further down the line of classes, regardless of your subject choices.

This may not matter unless you hope to achieve highly and dont, the JC grade can cost you or win you your place in the top class, if thats what you want

You can still sit honours if you wish but you will be moving at a much slower pace, its kind of a limbo place as although you are in honours, the work is not keeping pace with the other class.

For some this situation doesn't matter but for some it does, in the school I speak about, the mocks are used for guide until the JC results come out and thats when the movement of students takes place. Unless of course you have come from TY, then they already know where to place you.

Acid_Violet

In some schools is the thing to bear in mind, most people I've been talking to it doesn't really matter what your results were, classes are not streamed and your results don't determine what classes you're allowed to take. But it depends.

ninty9er

Not streamed.......

Maths especially, and also Irish require rigorous streaming for all levels to be successful.....

timmywex

bull....i know soomeone who failed foundation irish...they got 28%.....but he still got the jc.

macroman

You'll get your Juniour Cert regardless. A friend of mine failed Maths, Science and Irish and still got it :eek:

Also, don't believe what the teachers are telling you. It's all to trick you into studying :rolleyes:

Gaspode

AKAIK passing 5 subjects is considered 'passing' the JC. I am quite certain that failing any one particular subject is not considered a failed JC. Huge numbers of people dont do Irish anyway so it just couldnt be.

gaeilgegrinds

You get the piece of paper regardless but yes you have to pass English, Gaeilge and maths.
And the currect percentage not doing Irish is between 7 & 8%, they are exempt due to arriving in the country after 11 or having seom sort of linguistical difficulty with it. Any other questions please ask. Am an Irish examiner.

X-Ecuti0ner

I hate irish. i failed my mock.. well not yet anyways, i still have one more paper to do...

qwertplaywert

i hear that......got 49[Pass] but didnt bother doing essay or letter, pen wasted out, it was my last exam,couldnt be foobed getting alend of one
was capable for good honours grade,but i just hate the subject so much

stephc

dus any1 no if u hve 2 wear ur uniform??? i hvn a clu nd its gna b roastin im nt able lyk..:(....

partyatmygaff

The SEC dont say you have to, depends on your school.

magnumlady

I asked what happens if my son fails his JC (he has special needs) and was told that no one fails it.

spurious

magnumlady wrote: »

I asked what happens if my son fails his JC (he has special needs) and was told that no one fails it.

That would be the view of the State Examinations Commission. For years they have been trying to make the Junior Cert. an exam to encourage people to stay in school, not to label people as 'failures'.

Despite what the majority of boards.ie posters might think, there are still many people for whom sitting the Junior Cert. at any level at all is a major achievement.

GirlsAloud

I don't do Irish so I hope not.
xxxxx

TransititionMan

Hehehe :P
I dont do irish :P

6stringmaniac

What exactly does it mean to "fail" the jc.
What would happen?
You cant fail it as a whole unless you fail all of the subjects, surely?

Bonavox

How can you not be doing Irish?
I thought that was a mandatory subject.

I wish I didn't do Irish, I have an Irish exam in 2 hours, of studying I go . . .

GirlsAloud

vflhp wrote: »

How can you not be doing Irish?
I thought that was a mandatory subject.

I wish I didn't do Irish, I have an Irish exam in 2 hours, of studying I go . . .

Well I'm from England so yeah.. Most people don't do it either cos they're dyslexic or from some other country.
xxxxx

TransititionMan

Same =]
Came to Ireland (from England) in 5th class.
Tried to make me do Irish but after soon finding out I was horrible at languages, they gave up =]
Why I dont have to do Irish. I missed the basics.
It seems good but Im a subject down for the LC.
Im going to take business as an extra subject.

jumpguy

6stringmaniac wrote: »

What exactly does it mean to "fail" the jc.
What would happen?
You cant fail it as a whole unless you fail all of the subjects, surely?

You can't "fail" your Junior Cert. Even if you got an N.G (<10%) in every subject at foundation level, you'll still be entitled to go into 4th year. There is no "Fail" or "Pass" at the bottom of your statement of results saying you failed or passed the JC. It just tells you your grades.

Homicidal_jesus

dudes im doing theleaving atm yyou cant actually fail the junior cert you can fail every subject and still go into fifth year its a totally irelevant exam
guy in my year only passed 4 subjects