!!Launch of new weekly schedule @theSportingEmporium!!

zsoulking

Hi,

On Monday we will be launching the new weekly schedule at the Sporting Emporium.

Monday 5th Feb,
€100 + €10 No Limit Hold’em
Stack 7,000
Estimated prize pool €5,000

The structure will be similar to the Monthly Deep Stack game with the 30 min levels becoming 20 min and the 45 min levels becoming 30 min.

This should ensure lots of play for all.

If for any reason this structure is not working as we planed then it will be amended.

PLEASE NOTE:
This game should coincide with the Launch of the Sporting Emporium Tournament League.

More information to follow,

John.

Goodluck2me

John i think this would go down much better on a Wednesday night as there is really little on offer that night. on mondays Pokerevents have a €100 freezeout and the Fitz have a €100+100 rebuy/top up on.

It would be great to have something more worthwhile on a wednesday. hope you`ll take this on board.

rag2gar

goodluck2me wrote:

John i think this would go down much better on a Wednesday night as there is really little on offer that night. on mondays Pokerevents have a €100 freezeout and the Fitz have a €100+100 rebuy/top up on.

It would be great to have something more worthwhile on a wednesday. hope you`ll take this on board.

Good point would love to see this on a weds

BigCityBanker

Wednesdays tourney is a good one - I dont see the need to change it. I think this is a good initiative by the SE to run a 100 game on a Monday night in competition to Pokerevents.

SE can offer, comfort, quality dealers, and now a superior structure to PokerEvents etc for a 10% reg fee.

PokerEvents can charge a 20% fee for a worse structure, less comfort, etc..

Competition is good for the game here in Dublin - it forces people to improve and the SE have clearly stepped up to the mark, well done to John and Alex.

ianmc38

BigCityBanker wrote:

Wednesdays tourney is a good one - I dont see the need to change it. I think this is a good initiative by the SE to run a 100 game on a Monday night in competition to Pokerevents.

SE can offer, comfort, quality dealers, and now a superior structure to PokerEvents etc for a 10% reg fee.

PokerEvents can charge a 20% fee for a worse structure, less comfort, etc..

Competition is good for the game here in Dublin - it forces people to improve and the SE have clearly stepped up to the mark, well done to John and Alex.

Fo rizzle.

LuckyLloyd

Ya - the fitz game has 20 min levels the entire way through, and if you pay the full €200 you will only get 8,000 chips. The Pokerevents game is a crapshoot with some bad dealers. This sounds like the best deal on a Monday by long shot.

Plus, the Wednesday tournament is a pretty good tournament in it's own right.

PokerEvents-Ste

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Ya - the fitz game has 20 min levels the entire way through, and if you pay the full €200 you will only get 8,000 chips. The Pokerevents game is a crapshoot with some bad dealers. This sounds like the best deal on a Monday by long shot.

Plus, the Wednesday tournament is a pretty good tournament in it's own right.

LuckyLloyd

When was the last time you were at the Red Cow? I haven't seen you there since September so unless you have played our tournament you have no right to comment. Yet another PokerEvents bashing....

The standard of dealers is very good at the Red Cow. There was not one complaint or bad word spoken about any of our Dublin dealers at the IPC. There was many compliments regarding them.

And as regards the tournament being a crapshoot. The clock is ammended each week to avoid this as much as possible. The minimum clock being 20 minutes. Every tournament is different.

Please before you bad mouth someone's tournament have at least played the tournament!!

Regards

Stephen

BigCityBanker

PokerEvents-Ste wrote:

There was not one complaint or bad word spoken about any of our Dublin dealers at the IPC. There was many compliments regarding them.

Now Steven in all fairness you know this not to be true. I pm'd you on here after the New Years Day qualifier complaining about one of the dealers from that event - in short he was brutal.

I asked you to change a dealer from my table in the IPC because he was absolutely sh!t, and I mean terrible. NicNicNic was at the table and testify to this also. He looked like some fool at a self deal pub game.

Now if you have qualified the above remark by inserting "Dublin" then this is a cop out and pretty selective imo.

LuckyLloyd

PokerEvents-Ste wrote:

LuckyLloyd

When was the last time you were at the Red Cow? I haven't seen you there since September so unless you have played our tournament you have no right to comment. Yet another PokerEvents bashing....

The standard of dealers is very good at the Red Cow. There was not one complaint or bad word spoken about any of our Dublin dealers at the IPC. There was many compliments regarding them.

And as regards the tournament being a crapshoot. The clock is ammended each week to avoid this as much as possible. The minimum clock being 20 minutes. Every tournament is different.

Please before you bad mouth someone's tournament have at least played the tournament!!

Regards

Stephen

Stephen,

I value the opinion of other people that I know that have played this game. The tournament is generally noted as leaving little play once the final table approaches. Not all of your dealers are excellent - most are, yes - but even at the IPC there were a couple that were clearly learning the ropes. Which is fine, as every dealer must start somwhere. However, from a player's perspective, I would rather pay 10% reg for a unquestionably high level of service than 20% reg for a service that may have minor imperfections.

You are right, I haven't played the tournament in a while. I have not read or heard anything in the interim that would lead me to attend.

Obviously, you are entitled to jump to the defense of your employer. I am entitled to mouth off about what I perceive as the best value available for punters. I shall continue to do so.

Thanks,

Lloyd.

PokerEvents-Ste

BigCityBanker wrote:

Now Steven in all fairness you know this not to be true. I pm'd you on here after the New Years Day qualifier complaining about one of the dealers from that event - in short he was brutal.

I asked you to change a dealer from my table in the IPC because he was absolutely sh!t, and I mean terrible. NicNicNic was at the table and testify to this also. He looked like some fool at a self deal pub game.

Now if you have qualified the above remark by inserting "Dublin" then this is a cop out and pretty selective imo.

BigCityBanker,

There was a few complaints but none of them were the guys and girls who deal the Red Cow. New Years Day I had to bring up a few dealers who we had not worked with before. The person who you refer to does not work in the Red Cow on Mondays therefore not a Dublin dealer.

Regards

Stephen

ditpoker

BigCityBanker wrote:

Now Steven in all fairness you know this not to be true. I pm'd you on here after the New Years Day qualifier complaining about one of the dealers from that event - in short he was brutal.

I asked you to change a dealer from my table in the IPC because he was absolutely sh!t, and I mean terrible. NicNicNic was at the table and testify to this also. He looked like some fool at a self deal pub game.

Now if you have qualified the above remark by inserting "Dublin" then this is a cop out and pretty selective imo.

. heard this from 3 people.

aodea

Really so sick of this argument if you like the red cow play there if not play the emporium no need to praise one tourni while slagging another vic a versa. I love the fact there is competion to play all the differnt tournis but how about people just play the ones they perfer no need to get all defencive and what not.

anybody reckon the emporium will give me a chair to put my leg up on tommorrow?

carrigeen

DIT I really think you should stay out of this thread ,

You are working for GJP as a dealer and co-organising events with them and your last two contributions to "pokerevents" threads have been to berate them on items you "heard" from other people. I really think you are totally biased and just want to get a kick in anytime you can.

I think in fairness Noels comments are totally fair and it obviously was the case there was a crap dealer in that situation. Indeed I have only played one gjp event and one of the dealers I had was not good but overall they were excellent. I suppose what I am trying to say is every company will have a few bad dealers (in fairness I think that is what Llyod is saying)

I would just say overall I felt the ipc was excellent in Jan and very well run and certainly on a par with other companies in the same market. I would also say there dealers are at least on a par as well.

Excuse the rant but Jeff your views really annoy me as they are all second hand and I presume these people can speak for themselves.

pppspecial

just have to add a few things to this post here.... the structure in the red cow hs been ammended to allow for play to happen in the final stages over the last few months. final tabled monday and final tabled2 weeks previous and i found a lot off play in this game.
in regards the dealers the red cow have 1 off the best dealing teams going and are used everywhere by other casinos some even have been on tv as a result off there dealing skills.
sorry guys stephen is right u guys never play this 1, and the last thing im going to add here is BCB and lluckylloyd everyone knows ur fondness to the emporium and thats fair enough so i understand these posts.
I personally know nearly every organiser in the poker community and they are all working together on different things. some had festivals on the same week as others but chopped and changed to try facilitate each other.
The ipc and alll the other big games PE run are excellent structures that not many people in ireland miss and are gateway for these people to qualify for the bigger games for very cheap through these satalites, and easily ,as the players in these events are fish more than players.
f it while im on about this ....remember a monday night with all them chips i think the average person willl have to book there tuesday off work if there gonna play this new game in the emporium as it will be a 5 or 6 o clock finish...... all well and good having a decent structure...the day has to be chosen right and i personally think a friday night would be more suited to this type off event.

@time.

DubDani

Back to the SE Schedule.

Are there any other changes to the current schedule, or has only the monday changed?

LuckyLloyd

pppspecial wrote:

just have to add a few things to this post here.... the structure in the red cow hs been ammended to allow for play to happen in the final stages over the last few months. final tabled monday and final tabled2 weeks previous and i found a lot off play in this game.
in regards the dealers the red cow have 1 off the best dealing teams going and are used everywhere by other casinos some even have been on tv as a result off there dealing skills.
sorry guys stephen is right u guys never play this 1, and the last thing im going to add here is BCB and lluckylloyd everyone knows ur fondness to the emporium and thats fair enough so i understand these posts.
I personally know nearly every organiser in the poker community and they are all working together on different things. some had festivals on the same week as others but chopped and changed to try facilitate each other.
The ipc and alll the other big games PE run are excellent structures that not many people in ireland miss and are gateway for these people to qualify for the bigger games for very cheap through these satalites, and easily ,as the players in these events are fish more than players.
f it while im on about this ....remember a monday night with all them chips i think the average person willl have to book there tuesday off work if there gonna play this new game in the emporium as it will be a 5 or 6 o clock finish...... all well and good having a decent structure...the day has to be chosen right and i personally think a friday night would be more suited to this type off event.

@time.

Very reasonable post Dave. I'll shut my trap on the subject of the Redcow from here on in. Fair play.

ditpoker

lol... i actually quite like the red cow event. have played it a few times and reckon its probably easier to win than most tourneys in the SE. apologies for my nit-picking post. (carrigeen, rant excused, people i heard it from expressed the views soon after me!)

ditpoker

back on topic. does this mean the SE are changing their tourneys for all days of the week or is it just an amendment to the monday game?

Lafortezza

WTF does any of this have to do with the SE schedule?

Take it elsewhere. Keep this on topic.

Goodluck2me

lafortezza wrote:

WTF does any of this have to do with the SE schedule?

i just made the point that there would be more of a market for this type of an event on a wed night. that is all.

Goodluck2me

BigCityBanker wrote:

Now if you have qualified the above remark by inserting "Dublin" then this is a cop out and pretty selective imo.

i disagree with this completely, the fact that poker events have some less capable dealers that will not be working at the event in question (i.e. monday nights) should not come into the decision making of whether or not to attend it. it is hardly nit-picking its very relevant.
(most people know i deal for PE but i have no intentions of shilling etc so my pos is clear)

phantom_lord

goodluck2me wrote:

i disagree with this completely, the fact that poker events have some less capable dealers that will not be working at the event in question (i.e. monday nights) should not come into the...thread on the se

fyp....:p

Goodluck2me

phantom_lord wrote:

fyp....

your correct, apologies.

Flushdraw

I like the idea of the new tournie is the SE on Mondays. It seems like a decent game but whether they get the numbers depends on what the fitz and pokerevents do to hold onto their custom.

I think that us players are the real winners here. We have 3 of the biggest players in the dublin card scene going head to head with games of a similar buyin so ultimately the best game will succeed and each will have to make their game seem attractive to attract the punters.

I've always like the poker events games. I've made the FT in Monday night games that finished at 1am and others that finished at 4am. There tournie is an 8 kick off and sometimes they get close to 100 runners. To get this finished in one session is no mean feat and they do try and make it as playable as possible but time restrictions dictate how the tournie plays out.

Its a little easier for the SE and the Fitz to allow their games to drag on as they own the premises so theres no big clean up at the end of the night to get all the tables out etc and have the hotel looking back to normal for the next day.

Really looking forward to trying out the SE though to see how it plays and ultimately each of us will choose the game that best suits so there will be no need to play in a tournie that youre going to spend the next day moaning about on boards.

DocO

PokerEvents-Ste wrote:

LuckyLloyd

When was the last time you were at the Red Cow? I haven't seen you there since September so unless you have played our tournament you have no right to comment. Yet another PokerEvents bashing....

The standard of dealers is very good at the Red Cow. There was not one complaint or bad word spoken about any of our Dublin dealers at the IPC. There was many compliments regarding them.

And as regards the tournament being a crapshoot. The clock is ammended each week to avoid this as much as possible. The minimum clock being 20 minutes. Every tournament is different.

Please before you bad mouth someone's tournament have at least played the tournament!!

Regards

Stephen

Stephen, do me a favour . . . dry ur eyes mate! its a public forum and people are allowed to express their opinions without you jumping in shouting about a "PE bashing" . . . if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, its a DUCK . . . all these consenting voices cant all be wrong, how about you listned to what they had to say and took it from their . .

i played in the IPC and i found the majority (bar actually 3 dealers) to be of a bad to terrible standard, of which i pointed out to fintan, so please dont try and argue this!

I cant speak of the tournament too much, but for u to berate lloyd or someone for voicing their opinion about a tournament that they dont like is a bit unreasonable. its a public forum as i mentioned above, and if you are going to take the advantage of posting your events here, you also have to be willing to take criticism from those such posters . . .

i think you are over reacting . .

but to both, good luck with your monday night events.

nad now back on topic . . . (sorry guys!!)

BIG-SLICK-POKER

Being honest i always have liked poker events and have learned alot from them , on the note of there dealers i think they should be given a round of applause not a slating for allowing us to be able to play . Every event has a flaw including ours im sure - But i still think Poker Events have brought so much to Ireland and introduced so many players to poker ,

The sporting emporium is a fantastic venue well run and im sure the game will be good .. I still feel there is enough of a crowd in Dublin to allow both to survive .. I enjoy the Monday game in the red cow and always have

Neill K

strewelpeter

pppspecial wrote:

a friday night would be more suited to this type off event.

.

thebigmc

DocO wrote:

i played in the IPC and i found the majority (bar actually 3 dealers) to be of a bad to terrible standard, of which i pointed out to fintan, so please dont try and argue this!

Absolutley ridiculous, Out of about 40 dealers there was 37 who were of a bad to terrible standard? I really don't know how you can say that and I don't think anyone here would agree with you.

Also does the Sporting Emporium serve alcohol and does it still have an age policy of over 21?

MrPillowTalk

The IPC was a fine tournament.

Sam the dealer more than makes up for some of the worse ones , apart from that lets not have the pokerevents dealer debacle again.

ianmc38

thebigmc wrote:

Also does the Sporting Emporium serve alcohol and does it still have an age policy of over 21?

The 2 vital aspects of any poker tournament i want to be involved in

bottom feeder

John just after looking at the SE web site and noticed a typo on the monday game - its says Pot limit instead of No limit..... just to let ya know...

LuckyLloyd

ianmc38 wrote:

The 2 vital aspects of any poker tournament i want to be involved in

lol

phantom_lord

ianmc38 wrote:

The 2 vital aspects of any poker tournament i want to be involved in

you got a problem with me ian???