My First HH

Wreck

Well I've been reading this forum for a while, but here goes with my first hand history. Early stages of a $30 sit n go on stars. Not much info on table as we've played only 15 hands, but villian hasn't played a hand, folded to raises in both SB and BB.

9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: hero (1210 in chips)
Seat 2: (2030 in chips)
Seat 3: (1280 in chips)
Seat 4: (1650 in chips)
Seat 5: (1240 in chips)
Seat 6: villian (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: (1410 in chips)
Seat 8: (1560 in chips)
Seat 9: (1650 in chips)
Seat 3: posts small blind 10
Seat 4: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ac Tc]
Seat 5: folds
villian: raises 40 to 60
Seat 7: folds
Seat 8: folds
Seat 9: folds
hero: raises 120 to 180
Seat 2: folds
Seat 3: folds
Seat 4: folds
villian: raises 240 to 420
hero: calls 240
*** FLOP *** [6s 2c Js]
villian: bets 800
hero: ???

How is my play preflop? Does anyone call here?

Mr.Plough

i hate the re-raise pf. not a fan of the call either.

fold flop.

fold pf in future to re-raise

Ollieboy

wow, you've played this hand really badly all the way. I'm guessing you go out on marginal hands a lot and a aggressive player preflop.

I would flat call preflop and let it go on the flop, your out of position and if you dont hit the A 10 or flush draw, your dead in the hand.

Ste05

Well he's not out of position at any stage in this hand, unless I'm reading the hand completely arseways??

But yeah, this is pretty bad, as Ollie says, I'd also just smooth call Pre-Flop (or I might fold sometimes). But once he re-re-raises it's an insta-fold.

Then on the flop it's also about as easy a fold as you'll get.

phantom_lord

I don't like it at all, I might call or fold pf, flop is a fold.

Scotty #

Wreck wrote:

villian: bets 800
hero: ???

Fold.

Wreck wrote:

How is my play preflop?

A10s is a weak hand early on when there has been a raise and there are still 3 players to act after you. If you hit an ace, your more than likely out kicked. If you hit a 10 with any over card your likely to be behind. If you hit a 10 high flop there's the risk your up against an over pair. So, your really looking to hit a flop of... 1010X or A10X or 3x clubs to be fairly sure your ahead. There are 19,600 different flops possible so your chances of hitting one of these hands is very, very small. BTW If you do have a raising hand, raise more than you did here.

Wreck wrote:

Does anyone call here?

Only calling stations.

Wreck

Well thanks for all the responses guys. As it happens i was actually the villian in this hand.;) I couldn't believe the guy called my 800 on the flop with A 10, and thinking back on the hand afterwards I was even more amazed at his play pre flop given that I hadn't played a single hand and was representing a monster. I guess i just wanted confirmation that the "Hero's" line in this hand was unbelievably bad.
Out of interest, what hand do you put me on? Raise and reraise preflop, all in on a J high flop.

jebusmusic

Wreck wrote:

Out of interest, what hand do you put me on? Raise and reraise preflop, all in on a J high flop.

Pocket Jacks or AJ?

Ste05

JJ+ or AK. You really should be beating A10.

Ollieboy

Ste05 wrote:

Well he's not out of position at any stage in this hand, unless I'm reading the hand completely arseways??

But yeah, this is pretty bad, as Ollie says, I'd also just smooth call Pre-Flop (or I might fold sometimes). But once he re-re-raises it's an insta-fold.

Then on the flop it's also about as easy a fold as you'll get.

Isn't he in seat 1 the sb, hence out of position as the other player is in seat 6

I'm guessing you had a overpair. AA/KK

Hitman Actual

Ollie, the ATs guy was the CO.

If you did have an overpair, why did you play it so aggressively on the flop? Did you think he was commited?

sikes

your range should be QQ-AA/AK. Against most unkowns, i would say you have AK the most because of the flop bet

BobSloane

Wreck wrote:

Out of interest, what hand do you put me on? Raise and reraise preflop, all in on a J high flop.

you had QQ and he hit an A or backdoored a flush and you're sour about it?

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

you have aj here

kebabfest

you've basically put this post in to pat yourself on the back and critisise somebodys elses play.
Why not start the thread
Look at me I am great.

Hitman Actual

Jase Salty Loaf wrote:

you have aj here

It would be a pretty horrible way to play it preflop though. The same for AK/AQ. And I don't see the point in pushing the flop with QQ+ unless he thinks the AT guy is committed. Or you want a flush draw to fold (he'd be getting odds to call).

How about 99/TT? Or 72o.

Wreck

Here’s the Hand History.

9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Villian (1210 in chips)
Seat 2: (2030 in chips)
Seat 3: (1280 in chips)
Seat 4: (1650 in chips)
Seat 5: (1240 in chips)
Seat 6: Me (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: (1410 in chips)
Seat 8: (1560 in chips)
Seat 9: (1650 in chips)
Seat 3: posts small blind 10
Seat 4: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Me [4s 5s]
Seat 5: folds
Me: raises 40 to 60
Seat 7: folds
Seat 8: folds
Seat 9: folds
Villian: raises 120 to 180Seat 2: folds
Seat 3: folds
Seat 4: folds
Me: raises 240 to 420
Villian: calls 240*** FLOP *** [6s 2c Js]
Me: bets 800
Villian: calls 790 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [6s 2c Js] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [6s 2c Js 3c] [2d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Me: shows [4s 3s]
Villian: shows [Tc Ac]
Me collected 2450 from pot


The plan in this hand was to represent AA/KK. It obviously didn’t work too well as only Ollieboy puts me on this. Once the villain only called my reraise of his reraise pre flop I was confident that he didn’t have a big pair (AA/KK/QQ). On the flop I had a low flush draw and gutshot straight draw. I decided to push because I thought that the only hand that the villain could have to call here is pocket Jacks (possibly 66 but given his reraise I think that’s unlikely) or maybe AsKs. Obviously I don’t want a call here, but given I had so many outs I was quite happy he did call(still amazed though).

So, given I want to represent a big pocket pair, how do I play this hand differently. A bigger reraise preflop? A value bet on the flop?

Wreck

kebabfest wrote:

you've basically put this post in to pat yourself on the back and critisise somebodys elses play.
Why not start the thread
Look at me I am great.

This is not true. I'm trying to make some changes to my game and I'm genuinely looking for feedback. I posted this from the villian's point of view initially to see what hands people would put me on. Obviously his play is terrible, but thats not why I posted. I don't think my line is too brilliant either, for a lot of different reasons. I didn't represent the big pocket pair like I wished and tried the move against the wrong player to begin with.

sikes

If this is something you have brought into your game, you should remove it pretty quick.

Dont play trash in ep, esp in the early stages. You will most likely be oop for the rest of the hand, and the blinds arent worth stealing. You want a tight image at the start so you can be savagely aggro at the end.

If am a villain i will often call your 4bet with a big PP. I will let you hang yourself on the flop.

Hitman Actual

Wreck wrote:

So, given I want to represent a big pocket pair, how do I play this hand differently. A bigger reraise preflop? A value bet on the flop?

Call pf, and either value bet the flop or CRAI. CRAI is better, I'd say.

Your re-raise preflop and push on the flop looks suspicious, hence the reason the 'villain' called.

kebabfest

Wreck wrote:

This is not true. I'm trying to make some changes to my game and I'm genuinely looking for feedback. I posted this from the villian's point of view initially to see what hands people would put me on. Obviously his play is terrible, but thats not why I posted. I don't think my line is too brilliant either, for a lot of different reasons. I didn't represent the big pocket pair like I wished and tried the move against the wrong player to begin with.

thats fair enough chief. The play is allround bad. In order for you to improve your game you should tighten up your range completely. You can expand it a later date when you are feeling more confident. Also I would advice you to read Harrington on Hold'em. A really great book for beginners. You dont have to employ his style of play, but it will help you greatly understand the game.

phantom_lord

kebabfest wrote:

thats fair enough chief. The play is allround bad. In order for you to improve your game you should tighten up your range completely. You can expand it a later date when you are feeling more confident. Also I would advice you to read Harrington on Hold'em. A really great book for beginners. You dont have to employ his style of play, but it will help you greatly understand the game.

I don't think wreck is a beginner....