Return of the Mac

Bandana boy

Played my first on line game in quite a while last night

So i am on my 2nd round of the table have not played a hand and i am sitting over a dude who has rasied 6 of the last 8 pots pre flop

when the following hand happens


[Jan 30 21:51:44] : Hand Start.
[Jan 30 21:51:44] : Seat 1 : ericp42 has $93.25
[Jan 30 21:51:44] : Seat 2 : NDENWIAFSX has $93.75
[Jan 30 21:51:44] : Seat 3 : burger99 has $123.25
[Jan 30 21:51:44] : Seat 5 : bandanaboy has $99
[Jan 30 21:51:44] : Seat 6 : oliviastone has $168.75
[Jan 30 21:51:44] : NDENWIAFSX is the dealer.
[Jan 30 21:51:45] : burger99 posted small blind.
[Jan 30 21:51:46] : bandanaboy posted big blind.
[Jan 30 21:51:46] : Game [98537] started with 5 players.
[Jan 30 21:51:46] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jan 30 21:51:46] : Seat 5 : bandanaboy has Kc 9c
[Jan 30 21:51:47] : oliviastone folded.
[Jan 30 21:51:49] : ericp42 folded.
[Jan 30 21:51:50] : NDENWIAFSX folded.
[Jan 30 21:51:54] : burger99 called $0.50 and raised $3
[Jan 30 21:52:01] : bandanaboy called $3
[Jan 30 21:52:01] : Dealing flop.
[Jan 30 21:52:01] : Board cards [5d 3c 6c]
[Jan 30 21:52:05] : burger99 bet $5
[Jan 30 21:52:10] : bandanaboy called $5 and raised $10
[Jan 30 21:52:15] : burger99 called $10 and raised $10
[Jan 30 21:52:17] : bandanaboy called $10
[Jan 30 21:52:18] : Dealing turn.
[Jan 30 21:52:18] : Board cards [5d 3c 6c Ts]
[Jan 30 21:52:21] : burger99 checked.
[Jan 30 21:52:23] : bandanaboy checked.
[Jan 30 21:52:23] : Dealing river.
[Jan 30 21:52:23] : Board cards [5d 3c 6c Ts Qs]
[Jan 30 21:52:26] : burger99 checked.
[Jan 30 21:52:32] : bandanaboy bet $20
[Jan 30 21:52:33] : burger99 called $20
[Jan 30 21:52:33] : Showdown!
[Jan 30 21:52:33] : Seat 5 : bandanaboy has Kc 9c
[Jan 30 21:52:34] : Seat 5 : bandanaboy has Kc 9c
[Jan 30 21:52:34] : bandanaboy has High Card : King
[Jan 30 21:52:34] : Seat 3 : burger99 has Ad Th
[Jan 30 21:52:34] : burger99 has Pair: 10s
[Jan 30 21:52:34] : burger99 wins $95 with Pair: 10s
[Jan 30 21:52:42] : Hand is over.

Ok a little expensive but some good information here

about a round later we play this hand
[Jan 30 21:58:46] : Hand Start.
[Jan 30 21:58:46] : Seat 1 : ericp42 has $88.25
[Jan 30 21:58:46] : Seat 2 : NDENWIAFSX has $94.50
[Jan 30 21:58:46] : Seat 3 : burger99 has $183.75
[Jan 30 21:58:46] : Seat 4 : hAhAuLoSe has $100
[Jan 30 21:58:46] : Seat 5 : bandanaboy has $57
[Jan 30 21:58:46] : Seat 6 : oliviastone has $162.25
[Jan 30 21:58:46] : bandanaboy is the dealer.
[Jan 30 21:58:46] : oliviastone posted small blind.
[Jan 30 21:58:46] : NDENWIAFSX posted big blind.
[Jan 30 21:58:46] : Game [98545] started with 5 players.
[Jan 30 21:58:46] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jan 30 21:58:46] : Seat 5 : bandanaboy has Td 8d
[Jan 30 21:58:49] : burger99 called $1
[Jan 30 21:58:52] : hAhAuLoSe folded.
[Jan 30 21:58:56] : bandanaboy called $1 and raised $3
[Jan 30 21:58:57] : oliviastone folded.
[Jan 30 21:58:58] : NDENWIAFSX folded.
[Jan 30 21:58:59] : burger99 called $3
[Jan 30 21:59:00] : Dealing flop.
[Jan 30 21:59:00] : Board cards [8h 2s Qs]
[Jan 30 21:59:02] : burger99 checked.
[Jan 30 21:59:07] : bandanaboy bet $6
[Jan 30 21:59:11] : burger99 called $6 and raised $6

What are we thinking here ?

El Stuntman

Bandana boy wrote:

What are we thinking here ?

errr, what the hell am I doing in this hand?

Tar.Aldarion

"I wonder how much money I am about to lose as 'I can't lay it down'."

ianmc38

In hand 1 I'd prefer to 4-bet all-in on the flop than call and check behind turn. Your line looks like air and will be looked up way way too much.

Hand 2 I'm thinking where has my fold button gone. I had better press it quick before this donk stacks me.

valor

Your river bet in #1 sucks

Bandana boy

valor wrote:

Your river bet in #1 sucks

There is no doubt the river bet in hand 1 is not the best move ever made
but what would you put dude on after that action

I thought high prob of AX spades in which case i am behind but a bet wins

as it turns out if he doesnt hit a card on turn that bet does win

So we have seen his previous min raise mean nothing more than i am an idiot yet we are all going to insta fold here?

Do we think the check min raise shows that much strength ?

ianmc38

The river bet in hand 1 is horrific. What do you think you're representing with your line? I would call you with AK if i got to the river.

Bandana boy

ianmc38 wrote:

In hand 1 I'd prefer to 4-bet all-in on the flop than call and check behind turn. Your line looks like air and will be looked up way way too much.

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Your probably right a little ring rusty but the min re-raise i initially thought was real strength maybe an op

I was so suprised by the turn AND river checks that i then changed my read

Marq

If you really think that the min-raise in the first hand means the same thing as the min raise here then just 3-bet push.

While I really dislike how you played the first hand, I think your biggest mistake in the second is that you haven't topped up to $100 before the hand begins. Your short stack reduces the range of ways that you can play the hand.

Hand One, I prefer to check-call flop, but as you've check-raised I think the 4-bet push is the best line with 2 overcards and a flushdraw against a donkey who you could be ahead of already. if you're going to bet the river you should bet more, closer to full pot (40-45 maybe), as you will have more folding equity, but I think that most one pair hands are looking you up for anything less.

Hand Two is a fold, but given the history and the size of your stack, I imagine you stuck it in and lost to Q4 or A8s.

Bandana boy

Marq wrote:

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While I really dislike how you played the first hand, I think your biggest mistake in the second is that you haven't topped up to $100 before the hand begins. Your short stack reduces the range of ways that you can play the hand.

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Accepted oversight on my part i did that the very next hand

Marq wrote:

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Hand One, I prefer to check-call flop, but as you've check-raised I think the 4-bet push is the best line with 2 overcards and a flushdraw against a donkey who you could be ahead of already.
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I had postion on both hands
in hindsight the 4 bet in had 1 would almost defo have taken pot down
At the time his reraise had me thinking he had a hand and his min raise of course priced in my flush

Marq wrote:

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if you're going to bet the river you should bet more, closer to full pot (40-45 maybe), as you will have more folding equity, but I think that most one pair hands are looking you up for anything less.

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I would normally agree with this logic but i felt that he was either calling or folding regardless of amount maybe with a busted flush or 88/99 and felt 20 was right size was obviously wrong here and 50 might have taken it down

Marq wrote:

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Hand Two is a fold, but given the history and the size of your stack, I imagine you stuck it in and lost to Q4 or A8s.

I dont want to harp on this but everyone is saying its a fold but why is it a fold ?

what do we think he has that limps in CO and check min raises