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Eli Roth to direct Stephen King's Cell

  • 31-01-2007 12:49am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


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    I don't know if many of you have read the book. The book is ok, perfect for a movie adaption. Zombies, guns, gore, explosions and more zombies.

    Looks like Eli Roth is to throw his hand to it. Not looking forward to this after the disaster that was Hostel.


Comments

  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Read about that a few months back.

    Like all King adaptations I won't hold my breath in anticipation.


  • Posts: 7,320 Madalynn Creamy Bulb


    I agree, Hostel and Cabin Fever were diabolical.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I agree, Hostel and Cabin Fever were diabolical.

    I like Cabin Fever and I feel that Tarintino, not Roth ruined Hostel.

    The violence was far too clean and lacked that down and dirty feel that gore films need.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Great news in my eyes. Better then it being picked up by some unknown company and turned into yet another made for TV feature, like those that produced the recent likes of Desperation. If nothing else, it should be good entertainment.

    I would not call Hostel a 'disaster' by any stretch, I really think some people expected far too much from such a simple premise, in which I think it suceeded rather well. Cabin Fever was also a good film in my book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    I like Cabin Fever and I feel that Tarintino, not Roth ruined Hostel.
    How do you figure that? Tarantino was executive producer, all he did was lend his name so that the money would come a bit quicker. There was no creative input on his part. Hostel was a massive step down from Cabin Fever which was a good fun gore flick.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    As with almost all of kings stuff, I won't look forward to the film, but when it's made into a mini-series it'll probably be better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    I agree, Hostel and Cabin Fever were diabolical.

    Both films were great. There was too much build up for Hostel - everyone was going around saying it was the new Tarantino film, when Tarantino had nothing to do with it. I was working in a cinema when Hostel was released and a lot of other gore/thriller movies were coming out at the same time - The Hills Have Eyes, Final Destination 3 etc. and Hostel was easily the best, and before anyone says it, THHE and FD3 were not crap, they were also good films.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭Sean7


    Personally, I am at a loss to explain how Eli Roth continues to find employment in the film industry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭rizzla


    Really like Eli Roth, seems like he's one of the few directors who makes movies he would like and not for the general public. Read Cell and thought it was a good book, looking forward to seeing it on screen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Running Bing


    I like Cabin Fever and I feel that Tarintino, not Roth ruined Hostel.

    The violence was far too clean and lacked that down and dirty feel that gore films need.


    :rolleyes: Care to share what incredible insight gave you that opinion?


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cabin Fever was an old school cabin in the woods film that was down and dirty. Hostel was one of the most derivative and clinical gore films I have ever seen. Like Tarintino's films the violence was nice to look at and lacked any sense of reality.

    Tarintino's paw prints were all over Hostel, characters, dialogue situations that all carried his mark.

    Hostel had potential. It could have been a throw back to the great gore films of the 80s, instead we got nice, clean and somewhat bloodless film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭Sean7


    In fairness Tarantino does not shy away from blood, I'd studios have a lot of say in what Eli Roth does I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    Tarintino's paw prints were all over Hostel, characters, dialogue situations that all carried his mark.
    So it was his influence and not his actual work on the film (which amounted to nothing beyond funding) that you think ruined Hostel, more so than Roth?


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lodgepole wrote:
    So it was his influence and not his actual work on the film (which amounted to nothing beyond funding) that you think ruined Hostel, more so than Roth?


    Tarintino was invovled with Hostal from the very start. Here's an interview where he says he was involved in Hostel from the script stage.

    Tarintino is little more than a plagerising liar. Nothing he has ever been involed in has had an iota of originality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,831 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    While reading cell, i found it enjoyable & really felt that if there was any Stephen King novel that seemed to be written purely to be adapted to a movie...this was it! Could be good, particularly the early scenes, when the carnage first begins, although it could really go down the route of farce if not dealt with very carefully


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭Gillie


    Enjoyed the book.
    Weird ending though. Dragged on a bit.

    Still would like to see the movie version!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭c - 13


    Reading the book at the moment and cant say its really impressing me that much (at this point), I can see the conversion of this to film being a very tough task and could really go either way.

    I will reserve my full judgement on this until I have finished the book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    Tarintino was invovled with Hostal from the very start. Here's an interview where he says he was involved in Hostel from the script stage.

    Tarintino is little more than a plagerising liar. Nothing he has ever been involed in has had an iota of originality.
    Being "involved from the script stage" does not translate to him having any influence over the script, which is credited by the WGA to Eli Roth alone. Further to that, he wasn't involved in the direction at all. Blaiming him, and not Roth, based on Cabin Fever is ludicrous. Saying Tarantino is unoriginal (including bringing up the usual City on Fire reference) is old, and blaiming him for a film made by another film maker purely be association is wrong. Anyway it's off topic.

    Roth is clearly talented, even if Hostel was rubbish. I'm interested to see what he can do with something with a little more meat than his own scripts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Running Bing


    Tarintino was invovled with Hostal from the very start. Here's an interview where he says he was involved in Hostel from the script stage.

    Tarintino is little more than a plagerising liar. Nothing he has ever been involed in has had an iota of originality.


    Do you feel great filmmaking is all about originality? What has spielberg done that is so original, what has scorcesse done that is so original?

    One of the best things about his films is the dialogue. Surely that is original? Surely it is an original idea to combine the genres of Japanese samurai movies, Honk Kong kung fu movies, spaghetti westerns and put them in an American context with the protaginist being a female. What other director would do that?

    What do you define as original? and what do you define as original films? I would be interested to know.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Babybing wrote:
    Do you feel great filmmaking is all about originality? What has spielberg done that is so original, what has scorcesse done that is so original?

    One of the best things about his films is the dialogue. Surely that is original? Surely it is an original idea to combine the genres of Japanese samurai movies, Honk Kong kung fu movies, spaghetti westerns and put them in an American context with the protaginist being a female. What other director would do that?

    What do you define as original? and what do you define as original films? I would be interested to know.

    I believe that originality has a lot to do with great film making but that it's not the only thing. The problem I have with Tarantino is that he shamelessly steals from other better films and never pays any respect to them. The most glaring incident is the whole Reservoir Dogs and City on Fire fiasco.

    Tarantino acutually said he didn't see it till after he made Reservoir Dogs. But Roger Avery contradicted this by saying that Tarantino made him watch it before he made Dogs.

    Pulp Fiction is another example. Roger Avery is respnsiable for a large portion of the film and Tarantino tried to take sole writing credit.

    As for Kill Bill, Tarintino just remade the far superior Lady Snowblood in modern day. Having a femle protagonist is nothing new, hell Cynthia Rockhart made a number of Japanese fluenced american martial arts films.

    Say what you will about Spielberg, and generally I'm not a big fan of his but Empire of the Sun, Jaws, Saving Private Ryan and the Indiani Jones films are all great films. Spielberg may be heavily influenced by Frank Carpa, but he doesn't shamelessly steal from other film makers. Same with Scorcess, the Coen Brothers, and Peter Jackson. They all have their influences which they admit to but they all make far more original films than Tarantino.

    Tarantino's dialogue is inventive but it never feels right. People just don't talk that way in real life. For truely great dialogue you need look no furthur than the Coen Brothers.


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