1408

faceman

Just saw this trailer today. Looks like it has promise if they steer clear of scary little girl stuff. I like Cusack.

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/1408.html

Mr E

Watched that trailer yesterday.... looks really good. Nice effects too.

Rhyme

It would scare the Hell out of me but i'll end up going to see it anyway... looks fantastic.

Basq

Watched this last night... quite an enjoyable film.

Very scary for a PG film (in the States anyways). No real scenes of blood and guts - just intense psychological scares.

One poor point about it was it had a bit too many endings...

what i mean is there was too many moments in the film where there was a resolution or a fade-to-black, only for the film to get going again soon after.

Cusack was great as always. Samuel L Jackson was.... barely seen!

Though this will be another one film to divide audiences (similar to Cusack's horror/thriller 'Identity'), people will either really enjoy the film or loathe it. There will be no in-between.

For me, it was more chilling than most of the R-rated blood-and-gore fests out there.

I'd give it a solid 8 / 10.

faceman

PG rating? Really surprised at that, the trailer makes it out to be somethin more adult themed

They are deviating a lot from the short story its based on by the looks of it, but it looks like its worth a watch anyway.

Galvasean

It looks like it might be a genuinely scary film, ie: not trying to simply shock you with 'jump out' suprises or gross you out with gore (Im looking at you Hostel..)

Hopefully this will be the first movie to freak me out since Event Horizon.

MisterAnarchy

I saw this the other night and I highly recommend it.
Just goes to show that you can create a creepy thriller without any of the gore and blood so predominant in other inferior films so prevalent today.
The first 70 minutes were excellent but it dropped slightly in the last 20 minutes.
Not one for the faint of heart.

Karl Hungus

Looks interesting alright, I'll have to put it on the to do list.

As a side note, will people stop criticising gore movies for not being scary?

They're not trying to acheive the same thing as a ghost story for example, so it's pointless comparing a film like this to Hostel. It's like criticing 2001: A Space Odyssey for not having big spaceship battles like Star Wars. They're very different films, and try to acheive different things.

Galvasean

I don't know Hostel just gives me the impression that they couldn't come up with anything more than a paper thin storyline so heres some blood! Saw is better IMO because it combines the nastiness with an interesting enough plot.

faceman

Karl Hungus wrote:

As a side note, will people stop criticising gore movies for not being scary?

They're not trying to acheive the same thing as a ghost story for example, so it's pointless comparing a film like this to Hostel. It's like criticing 2001: A Space Odyssey for not having big spaceship battles like Star Wars. They're very different films, and try to acheive different things.

while horror can have sub genres with similar analogies to above, hollywood has produced alot of poor horror (gore) films and as most cinema going public watch mainstream american movies, the lesser known gore horror (Shlockfest flicks! ) get overlooked. Anyone for italian explotation flicks?

Karl Hungus

faceman wrote:

while horror can have sub genres with similar analogies to above, hollywood has produced alot of poor horror (gore) films and as most cinema going public watch mainstream american movies, the lesser known gore horror (Shlockfest flicks! ) get overlooked. Anyone for italian explotation flicks?

Hollywood has produced a lot of crappy films altogether, and not just gore. On the horror front, there's Gothika for example. Not a gory film, but still a piece of excrement.

My point still stands. Film-makers who use gore are not trying to 'scare' you with it, so people should stop comparing it to films that do actually set out to scare.

faceman

Karl Hungus wrote:

My point still stands. Film-makers who use gore are not trying to 'scare' you with it, so people should stop comparing it to films that do actually set out to scare.

thats true, i just wish hollywood would stop trying to blend the 2.

Galvasean

faceman wrote:

while horror can have sub genres with similar analogies to above, hollywood has produced alot of poor horror (gore) films and as most cinema going public watch mainstream american movies, the lesser known gore horror (Shlockfest flicks! ) get overlooked. Anyone for italian explotation flicks?

...Saló?

senordingdong

I thought 'Identity' was trés good.
And as much as I can't wait to see 1408, I have a feeling that all the best bits are revealed in the trailer.

Petey2006

Looks good. It'll be a pleasant change to see a horror movie that isn't completely reliant on gore for scares.

Karl Hungus

Petey2006 wrote:

Looks good. It'll be a pleasant change to see a horror movie that isn't completely reliant on gore for scares.

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Petey2006

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Karl Hungus

Petey2006 wrote:

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I've said it a few times in this thread already... Gore films don't use gore to scare. They don't even try it scare you with gore. Repulse, disgust, make you wince, yes... But it's not to scare you.

I've said it twice before in this thread:

As a side note, will people stop criticising gore movies for not being scary?

They're not trying to acheive the same thing as a ghost story for example, so it's pointless comparing a film like this to Hostel. It's like criticing 2001: A Space Odyssey for not having big spaceship battles like Star Wars. They're very different films, and try to acheive different things.

My point still stands. Film-makers who use gore are not trying to 'scare' you with it, so people should stop comparing it to films that do actually set out to scare.

The fact is, I'm at a loss as to why people even think that gore is supposed to scare you, or that it's the film-maker's intention to do that.

MisterAnarchy

faceman wrote:

thats true, i just wish hollywood would stop trying to blend the 2.

Actually I wish they would just stop making Gore movies full stop.;)

Petey2006

They're horror movies. If they want to make up a new genre for it, so be it. Fact remains, horror cinema is almost entirely limited to these gore movies and Japanese remakes now days, and that's bloody annoying.

Karl Hungus

Petey2006 wrote:

They're horror movies.

That doesn't mean that they're somehow contractually bound to try and scare people. There's plenty of different styles of horror. Zombie films, for example, generally aren't scary, yet they work as horror films on their own level. There's no set rules.

Petey2006 wrote:

If they want to make up a new genre for it, so be it.

New genre? What are you talking about? Gore or splatter movies (Or whatever other tags you prefer) have existed for decades and have been considered a whole style of their own since then.

Petey2006 wrote:

Fact remains, horror cinema is almost entirely limited to these gore movies and Japanese remakes now days, and that's bloody annoying.

Most every horror film that comes from Hollywood these days are straight out crap. If there are bad gore movies being made, it's because producers found something to latch onto and is pouring out cash-in garbage. It's not a reflection on the genre as a whole, but rather Hollywood trends.

Galvasean

Wicker Man, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Hitcher, Grudge, Pulse*... Not overrelient on gore, still crap though.

*remakes, not originals

Petey2006

Petey2006 wrote:

Fact remains, horror cinema is almost entirely limited to these gore movies and Japanese remakes now days, and that's bloody annoying.

There are a number of interesting and original horror films being made.Granted most of these are being released stright to DVD, but in most cases the companies behind them are owned by one of the major studios.

Take Raw Feed as an example, they plan to relase three or four horror films a year straight to DVD. Their first Rest Stop was an enjoyable if unoriginal throw back to early 80s slasher films. The following film Sublime was an interesting and original horror film with some genuine scares, and new film Believers is rather enjoyable. Lion Gates are doing something similiar,

There are a whole host of other film maker releasing original and entertaining horror films which don't rely on gore. Lucky McKee, Stuart Gordon, Brian Yuzna, George Ratliff, James Wan, Jonathan King, Michael Dougherty, Andrew Currie, William Friedkin, John Kalangis, Mikael Hafstrom, Timur Bekmambetov, Greg McLean, Neil Marshall, to name but a few.

Petey2006

Yeah, I have to admit, I was pretty impressed with Greg McLean's Wolf Creek. What's the deal with Lucky McKee's The Woods? Is it getting a theatrical release or is it a straight to DVD jobby?

Karl Hungus

Petey2006 wrote:

Yeah, I have to admit, I was pretty impressed with Greg McLean's Wolf Creek. What's the deal with Lucky McKee's The Woods? Is it getting a theatrical release or is it a straight to DVD jobby?

Straight to DVD. Have a look here. I'm probably going to nab that at some stage myself.

Petey2006

Nice one! Under a tenner too. God bless the play.com. Thanks man.

Karl Hungus

Not a bother.

koneko

Don't expect anything spectacular from The Woods, I thought it was fairly average.

Karl Hungus

koneko wrote:

Don't expect anything spectacular from The Woods, I thought it was fairly average.

Well, it's on it's way now anyway.

koneko

koneko wrote:

Don't expect anything spectacular from The Woods, I thought it was fairly average.

The ideas are origianl and the performances are excellent, but the whole does feel very underwhelming. Given that, it's still refreshing to see an original horror film that doesn't rely on sudden knee jerk scares, plus it does feature the great Bruce Campbell.