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call?

  • 29-01-2007 2:55am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭


    15k GTD - 11 players left. avg 150k. 6 handed.
    Hero on BB with 137k
    Villain 28k
    SB 33k
    Blinds 5k 10k

    Villain pushes for 28k from C/O.
    SB thinks and pushes for 33k.

    I have 7c4c. 23k to call. Pot is 75k.
    Call or fold?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    I always call in these spots. Still unsure if it's the correct play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    Call for me too, both opponents hand raises are very wide, I cant see you being huge dog here unless you get dominated which would be unlucky. But for me I would call.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭nicnicnic


    yep i call to and hope they both have AQ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    I think you should pass but would like to see some maths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    I like a fold here. But like RT I would like to see some maths. I always fold here. Is this thread gonna be like Marq's K4 thread from the GJP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭sikes


    540,351,226,800 games 1456.172 secs 371,076,512 games/sec

    Board:
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 40.714% 39.34% 01.38% 212568616656 7429926562.00 { 22+, A2o+, KTo+ }
    Hand 1: 26.028% 25.53% 00.49% 137973246036 2668512850.00 { 74s }
    Hand 2: 33.258% 31.69% 01.57% 171229042848 8481881848.00 { 22+, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s, A2o+, K6o+, Q8o+, J9o+, T9o, 98o, 87o, 76o, 65o, 54o }

    marginal enough. other factors should come into play here. your stack size if you lose. your knocking two players out if you win etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭ocallagh


    I called but think it was a bit loose. I was against QJ and 88. Another reason for calling... I had defended my BB with relentless aggression! They were either folding around to me or pushing all-in. For the next few orbits they all folded!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    I think I'd have called to. But it probably would have been a gut decision. i.e. I could have gone either way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 375 ✭✭kebabfest


    ocallagh wrote:
    I called but think it was a bit loose. I was against QJ and 88. Another reason for calling... I had defended my BB with relentless aggression! They were either folding around to me or pushing all-in. For the next few orbits they all folded!

    I dont think it was a loose call. I am calling here without looking at my cards. If you do that whole EV calculation it must work out as a sound call with nearly any 2 cards.
    (The chance of knocking 2 players for a relatively small % of your stack)
    Also calling makes you look as if you're a bit of a nutter to the untrained eye and people wont mess with your BB (as you witnessed)


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    My gut says you are between 15-25% likely to win this hand and for this reason as well as wanting to keep the chips for other moves etc, I think I fold. A call isnt terrible but I think I want to keep the chips for a different spot.

    DeV.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Ollieboy


    DeVore wrote:
    My gut says you are between 15-25% likely to win this hand and for this reason as well as wanting to keep the chips for other moves etc, I think I fold. A call isnt terrible but I think I want to keep the chips for a different spot.

    DeV.


    agree with this, rather keep the chips and put them to better use later.

    Its also tribece, so you could win...lol


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