1/2 holdem hand

Gholimoli

Holdem Hand ½

Stacks :
Hero:160
Villain: covers
Villain : he is loos aggro ,he doesn’t like to fold much preflop but post flop he is not the worse but he will attempt to steal the pot if he thinks your weak.

Ive been playing TAG and haven’t really been out of line,I have reraised a few times preflop and others have folded.i haven’t really shown down in big pot yet so I donno what he thinks of me.

Hand:
Folded to me on SB with Ah9h.
I make it 8 and villain calls from BB.

Flop(16)
7h 9d 4d

I lead for 16 and villain calls instantly.

Turn(48)
2h

I check and villain bets 60.
I check raise all in .
How is my play ?
Comments ?

5starpool

I can't really see him folding here you have only about 70 extra behind at this point and it is for a pot of around 320, so he is getting 3.5/1. Unless he is likely to have nothing here a high percentage of the time or that you can make him fold TT/JJ/QQ/KK then I don't think it is going to be profitable. I doubt he folds AA (which is unlikely anyways, but you never know in a blinds battle).

A total bluff is the only thing he is surely folding here.

Ste05

Well you're getting called and I suppose you at least have outs, I'd say you are probably behind but could easily be ahead who knows it's blind on blind on a raggy co-ordinated flop. It seems altogether very standard and a hand that played itself.

Hectorjelly

Looks good.

Ste, Im not sure how he can be probably behind and easily ahead!

Gholimoli

Well my thought process is as follows :
I don’t think he was a TT+ as we would reraise preflop.

A set or some weird two pair is likely but his over bet on the turn was a bit smelly.
I figured I have 9 outs for nut flush,3 aces for two pair and 2 nines as outs.
That’s 14 outs. Lets just say 12 incase all of them are not live.
Also there is a good chance im already ahead and he is betting with some sort of draw or over cards him self.
I was not sure of my turn line.
Should I lead here?
Should I have folded to his bet after checking to him?
Flat calling his turn bet is out of the question so I suppose between folding and CRAI, which is better?

5starpool

I need to take reading lessons. I failed to spot you flopped top pair. Silly me. I upgrade my review to approval.

cardshark202

I like it. You most likely have the best hand and/or the best draw.

phantom_lord

5starpool wrote:

I need to take reading lessons. I failed to spot you flopped top pair. Silly me. I upgrade my review to approval.

wow. I somehow missed that as well


I like it now...

pok3rplaya

If you call and check to him on the river again he'll have a effective 4/5 pot size bet to try and push you off with. If he likes to try and steal, maybe call turn and check the river to induce a bluff again?


The line you took is fine though.

Ste05

Hectorjelly wrote:

Ste, Im not sure how he can be probably behind and easily ahead!

It's just with the over bet he seems to want to commit his whole stack here but wants Gholi in as well, it's obviously not a stone cold bluff, so he either has a huge hand, or he's willing to gamble with us. He could do this with all his sets, 2 pairs, etc. hands hoping we have an over pair that will stack off, but equally he could easily be also be doing this with another 9 or a draw of some sort hoping we have missed overs. And wanting to take it down now. I'd expect to be behind here more often than we're ahead, but I wouldn't be too suprised if we were actually ahead.

If that makes sense, I suppose I could have just said that his range includes hands that we are beating now as well as hands that are beating us, but is marginally dominated by the hands that are beating us.

Gholimoli

pok3rplaya wrote:

If you call and check to him on the river again he'll have a effective 4/5 pot size bet to try and push you off with. If he likes to try and steal, maybe call turn and check the river to induce a bluff again?


The line you took is fine though.

i really dont like flat calling turn bet at all.
basically i cant get away from the hand no matter what on the river and he could well get there if he has two over cards.if i push he may fold over cards which is not bad for me but it would be very bad if i flat call turn and let him pair his over card on the river and then pay him off.

opr

pok3rplaya wrote:

If you call and check to him on the river again he'll have a effective 4/5 pot size bet to try and push you off with.

The pot will be 168 on the river and he will have 76 left ?

Opr

Gholimoli

results:
he called with KhJh .
bank turn and MHIG.

ocallagh

Gholimoli wrote:

results:
he called with KhJh .
bank turn and MHIG.

nicely played - i was gonna suggest K flush draw. A lot of LAGs way overbet with hands like that, especially in circumstances described above - blind on blind etc. I would call with any pair in this hand (ie:if one pair is gonna be good than any pair is good)

LuckyLloyd

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AmarilloFats

I like it nh wp

What do people think of the line....
Lead turn for $40, if raised get allin.
If he calls my turn bet and I improve on river bet pot.
If I don't improve I check call.

opr

AmarilloFats wrote:

I like it nh wp

What do people think of the line....
Lead turn for $15, if raised get allin.
If he calls my turn bet and I improve on river bet pot.
If I don't improve I check call.

Your gonna lead into a pot of 48 for 15 on the turn :eek:

Opr

LuckyLloyd

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AmarilloFats

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Well I don't ever like the idea of leading for a third of the pot.

We have 136 with the pot at 48. We could make it 35 - 40, push if raised // while still having approx 100 to move at the pot of approx 125 on the river if he checks behind.

Be pox the lot of ye... 25years of flawless poker theory ...One typo and your all on my back like monkeys...Go poke yourseles with a poo stick.
Edited...Now...

opr

AmarilloFats wrote:

Be pox the lot of ye... 25years of flawless poker theory ...One typo and your all on my back like monkeys...Go poke yourseles with a poo stick.
Edited...Now...

lol but how the hell 15 instead of 40 is a typo is beyond me.

By checking i think we look very weak and alot of worse hands will try to take this away from us on the turn. If we bet i think hands we beat might fold.

Opr

Marq

Gholimoli wrote:

results:
he called with KhJh .

Jesus what a donkey. (betting 60 that is, not the call)

Goodluck2me

i like the line there gholi, i thought he might have had 8hTh or the like.wp

pok3rplaya

opr wrote:

The pot will be 168 on the river and he will have 76 left ?

Opr

oh sorry nevermind.