lilting - singing without words

JaneHudson

I am doing a project on songs without words and I am looking for examples to study. Anything where the voice is used but there is no language is relevant.

Can anyone recommend any trad artists who do lilting (AKA dowdling or diedling) for whole tunes or even for part of a song? I know Christy Moore does it the odd time but I am trying to gather as many examples as possible.

thanks,
Jane.

MadsL

Does it have to be Irish trad?

I'd think of Iva Bittová the Czech violinst who uses 'nonsense' vocalising at the same time as playing.

Like those other artists, Bittová employs what’s often called extended vocal technique—using the voice in ways that go beyond the realm, literally the range, of traditional Western music. There are moments on the forthcoming CD when she screeches like a pterodactyl (or what we imagine one sounded like); at other times she’s guttural, like she’s speaking in tongues. But most of the time, it is much more mellifluous. Her sound is invigorating, urgent, and also soothing; it is a fusion of Old World and new-music sensibilities—plaintive violin coupled with minimalist vocal lines, infused with the spirit and language of Czech, Slovak, and Moravian folk music

http://nymag.com/nymetro/arts/music/classical/reviews/11819/index.html

purple'n'gold

Anything where the voice is used but there is no language is relevant.

I think its called rap. The use words like badassmother****ingnigger.

WetDaddy

What about Enya? She makes up her own words, like a 10 month old! Does that count?

Also, what about the likes of Ella Fitzgerald or Cab Calloway's scattings? (Please, no jokes!)

banjopaul

I can send you a recording I made in my group if you want, its in the middle of a few other pieces though!

JaneHudson

Thanks everybody these are great suggestions. I might try and do some sort of analysis between trad sounds and jazz ones, depending on the materials I find.

Jaggers

There's a well known lilter in County Cavan called Seamus Fay. I think he may have featured on the Ray D'arcy show recently although i did not hear it myself. I have heard him in the flesh and it's definitely a rarity.

He has an album avilable from http://www.cavanmusic.com/store.html and there's some short samples available from the same site.

There is a music festival coming up in Cavan in March "the Nyah festival" and he will be most likely be making an appearance at that.

Best of Luck

biko

To sing jojk means deeply identifying yourself with someone or something. I believe it doesn't have words.
Example here http://web.quipo.it/minola/sounds/saami/saami_trad.rm

http://web.quipo.it/minola/saami/joik_and_music.htm

Oh, and don't forget yodeling