Guess my cards!

ocallagh · 24-01-2007 2:58pm #1

Tribeca 3/6

I've been playing 23/15
Villain 1 (PFR) has been playing 24/16 and is a general TAG.
Villain 2 BB has been playing 62/4.. and hitting everything. If he hadn't leaked so many chips he'd be up to about 2k. Some areas of his game are awful, but he has showed some skill post flop.

We've all been playing together for about 3 hours this morning and I have a very TAG image.

Stacks:
Hero: 710
Villain 1: 600
Villain 2: 550

Preflop
Villain 1 (Button +1) raises to 30.
Hero (SB) calls
Villain 1 (BB) calls

Flop (90) [2c 4c 3s]
We all check.

Turn (90) [2d]
Hero checks
Villain 2 checks
Villain 1 bets 48
Hero calls 48
Villain 2 calls 48

Turn (225) [9d]
Hero bets $300

What do I have? What would you call me with?

copacetic · 24-01-2007 3:11pm

knowing very little, would say you had a high pair/two 9s pre flop, or else you are bluffing which seems unlikely. If I was villian1 I'd call you if I already had a pair of 2s or maybe a straight which he is playing?

Juan Pablo · 24-01-2007 3:12pm

ocallagh wrote:

What do I have?

T6 os!

ocallagh wrote:

What would you call me with?

T6 os!

ocallagh · 24-01-2007 3:30pm

Juan Pablo wrote:

T6 os!
T6 os!

LMAO!!

fabsoul · 24-01-2007 3:35pm

I think u have Ac 5c

marius · 24-01-2007 3:40pm

You have KK?

aubreym · 24-01-2007 3:43pm

Ac9c or 10/10

Ste05 · 24-01-2007 3:51pm

44, 33, 22, 99 or AA??

What I'd call with is, any house, any quads, (probably any straight) and other than those it'd depend on what have your river overbets in the past have meant?? Is this the first one??

I'd probably call with alot of (if not all) overpairs depending on what these River bets mean, but could easily fold AA- here.

BigCityBanker · 24-01-2007 3:57pm

did you have 56sooooted? or A 5?

handsfree · 24-01-2007 3:59pm

7 2 o

ocallagh · 24-01-2007 4:22pm

Ste05 wrote:

44, 33, 22, 99 or AA??

What I'd call with is, any house, any quads, (probably any straight) and other than those it'd depend on what have your river overbets in the past have meant?? Is this the first one??

I'd probably call with alot of (if not all) overpairs depending on what these River bets mean, but could easily fold AA- here.

yep, it's my first overbet on river

Ste05 · 24-01-2007 4:33pm

ocallagh wrote:

yep, it's my first overbet on river

OK, then I think you have a house, say 44 (which is my guess), but you might have got lucky with a 99.

I'd call with only 99 or 44 (assuming I'm Villain 1), god knows what the donk will call with

Ste05 · 24-01-2007 4:36pm

Also if the donk calls too, I'd probably call with a str8 too and maybe even AA as well.

BobSloane · 24-01-2007 4:47pm

i think you've made quads and are trying to represent a bluff with the overbet, hoping that any house or straight will call or even raise.

I'd certainly call with 44,33, or 99. Not with anything else though.

AmarilloFats · 24-01-2007 4:52pm

Ste05 wrote:

44, 33, 22, 99 or AA??

AA-rr pre.
44,33- lead flop or turn
99 - lead turn
22- Gets my vote. An i don't like the line if it is 22

gocall01 · 24-01-2007 4:58pm

fabsoul wrote:

I think u have Ac 5c

Probably only call with housey housey...

Ste05 · 24-01-2007 5:08pm

AmarilloFats wrote:

AA-rr pre.
44,33- lead flop or turn
99 - lead turn
22- Gets my vote. An i don't like the line if it is 22

None of these are always true after a 3 hour session, against a rock button, when ocallagh has a rock like image. If so then he'd be very easy to play against wouldn't he?

I know I certainly wouldn't always re-raise with AA here, I might also slow play trips on the flop and let him hang himself with an over pair. 99 I'd be check calling down on the turn. They're all miles ahead or miles behind scenarios.

22 - possible but statistically unlikely so I don't count it.

AmarilloFats · 24-01-2007 5:15pm

Ste05 wrote:

None of these are always true after a 3 hour session, against a rock button, when ocallagh has a rock like image. If so then he'd be very easy to play against wouldn't he?

I know I certainly wouldn't always re-raise with AA here, I might also slow play trips on the flop and let him hang himself with an over pair. 99 I'd be check calling down on the turn. They're all miles ahead or miles behind scenarios.

22 - possible but statistically unlikely so I don't count it.

Very True Ste.
AA - The call pre is fine. But the check again on turn!!
99 - Same I would never check turn
I also Would never check a set/fh into 2 players TWICE....
But Quads....maybe
I think Villain 1 PUshed with 99 and OP felt like a champ.

In fact I would never play any of the hands mentioned in this fashion.. sso I vote for none of the above.

Ste05 · 24-01-2007 5:30pm

AmarilloFats wrote:

In fact I would never play any of the hands mentioned in this fashion.. sso I vote for none of the above.

Neither would I normally, but after 3 hours of playing with the same opponents, my play is completely based on my opponents tendancies and what they think I normally do and I could do anything in an isolated hand, but certainly my first River overbet will "usually" be with a good hand. Although it's unlikely I'm checking trips twice or checking AA twice, but who knows, what the table dynamics were like, maybe ocallagh had set up a nice situation where a CRAI will get paid off more than a lead out by JJ+??

a-k-47 · 24-01-2007 5:30pm

ocallagh wrote:

What do I have? What would you call me with?

22
99

ocallagh · 24-01-2007 8:28pm

Right you're all crap at guessing. I had AKo. I don't know if it was a terrible play or not... haven't made up my mind.

Both players took the full 30 seconds before folding.

fixer · 24-01-2007 8:40pm

you have 22. small possibility of 33.

I'd call with 99, thinking I sucked out on your house, as we always want to discount the idea of quads there.

BobSloane · 24-01-2007 10:40pm

ocallagh wrote:

Right you're all crap at guessing. I had AKo. I don't know if it was a terrible play or not... haven't made up my mind.

Both players took the full 30 seconds before folding.

Lol. Fair enough. 10 6 offsuit was closest. Basically I thought you had quads or nothing. Your bet stank of bluff - which is what i said you were trying to represent but I got a step ahead of myself lol.
I should have guessed a bluff as no-one would post a hand here where they scared everyone away on a hand where they had quads.
Do you think it was a good play? What did you put them on? I don't think its a good play but hey...you took it down!

cardshark202 · 24-01-2007 11:07pm

The turn call seems like a pretty big leak imo.

Mr. Flibble · 24-01-2007 11:54pm

ocallagh wrote:

don't know if it was a terrible play or not...Both players took the full 30 seconds before folding.

I think that means it was very nearly a bad play, x 2.

a-k-47 · 25-01-2007 12:09am

a re raise wud of been embarassing lol

kincsem · 25-01-2007 4:28am

You have 9c2s

I call with 44

Just read back up through the posts and found your holding. Niall, go to Specsavers. You need reading glasses.

ocallagh · 25-01-2007 1:13pm

cardshark202 wrote:

The turn call seems like a pretty big leak imo.

I would rarely play AK like this against 2 opponents OOP, but we had played together for 3hrs and the call on the turn was to set me up for the river. I knew both opponents were weak (I was surprised Vllain 2 called the turn bet actually) but I was confident I could take the pot on the river regardless of what came. I intentionally did not post my starting hand to see what you would all call me with, many people in this thread said only house or better to call so IMO a +EV move.

Guess my cards!

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