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Amazing formula

  • 24-01-2007 2:41am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭


    Have a look for yourselves. Anybody have a clue how such a thing can be constructed?!


Comments

  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Michael Collins


    And not a pixel out of place. That's really quite unbelievable...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭carl_


    Thinking about it a little bit, it was probably done with some sort of evolutionary algorithm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭Professor_Fink


    One way to do it would be to take a formula which outputs every possibility mod some number N, and then calculate what the answer, A, should be, so that when it is plotted it gives a picture of the furmula (p pixels across, q down). Then all you need to do is calculate the input that gives A. You could easily do this if you know the factorization of N.

    Clearly this is not the approach taken in the above, but it would yield another self referential formula.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭breadmonkey


    I don't get what's going on. The formula generates the pic of the formula?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭Professor_Fink


    Yes!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭breadmonkey


    How?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭Professor_Fink


    How?!

    Basically for a certain value of the input, the output can be represented as a picture giving the formula. The mathworld entry linked to in the original post contains a detailed explanation.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    That's pretty nifty!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭deimos


    :)

    That's is cool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    that rocks my box !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭sicruise


    I can see how it is done alright...

    but fair play to them doing it so we don't have to!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭Roonels


    has any1 heard of fractal mathematics....its pretty new..relatively speaking! check it out, it may lead to some answers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭europerson


    That formula's cool, all right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭carl_




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭MathsManiac


    carl_ wrote:
    Nice link, Carl.

    For those who want a quicker summary of how the bould Mr Tupper might have gone about constructing this amazing formula, the gist is this:

    He constructs a formula that for any given value of n can produce a graph in a particular region of the plane that mimics pixels on a grid, and he does it in such a way that you can figure out what value of n will turn particular pixels on and off. He then decides what pixels he wants to turn on in order to draw a picture of the formula itself, and finds the corresponding value of n.

    Interestingly, he can use his formula to draw pictures of any other piece of text too, by looking at regions corresponding to other values of n.


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